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Obama was Just Okay, Bush was comfortably on the lovely side of mediocre but tons of Gilded Age assholes were way worse than him, Trump so far is hilariously incompetent but it still remains to be seen whether he's Hoover-level incompetent or just GHWB-level incompetent
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see also: gay rights and (somehow) racial justice
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steinrokkan posted:Obama was so non racist that he decided keeping Arabs in cages wasn't that much of a big deal as he initially claimed. Also he told black kids to pull up their pants
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Obama's accomplishments are equivalent to president McDumbass' edict to reduce tariffs on tea by 1%. He's going to be a note at the margins of the history written by the two apocalyptical presidents surrounding his tenure.
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every time i see a picture of him he is making that face does he ever not make that face is that just what his face looks like
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SKULL.GIF posted:xpost: I remember calling Obama "black McCain" during the 2008 run and it made a whole bunch of repubs really mad
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deadgoon posted:every time i see a picture of him he is making that face The best is he makes that completely confused face whether the person he's talking to is worse or better than him. If he wasn't a borderline fascist I'd just say he's making the face we all make when dealing with lib and neocon online types but lol at being fair to Tucker.
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Condiv posted:of course, the thread wouldn't be the same without idiot hillaries coming in and saying stupid stuff don't need hillaries to fan the flames when the thread gladly drags whatever dumb poo poo hillary said in on its own the suck zone powers itself
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SKULL.GIF posted:anyway to get back on topic The Economist is cancer, yeah.
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loquacius posted:Obama was Just Okay, Bush was comfortably on the lovely side of mediocre but tons of Gilded Age assholes were way worse than him, Trump so far is hilariously incompetent but it still remains to be seen whether he's Hoover-level incompetent or just GHWB-level incompetent As far as post-emancipation presidents go, I'm not sure anyone's done anything as bad as invading Iraq.
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Suck zonishly, I'm mildly drunk at present so I'll probably think of something way worse that makes me feel like an idiot later
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GalacticAcid posted:As far as post-emancipation presidents go, I'm not sure anyone's done anything as bad as invading Iraq. Invading Vietnam was arguably worse but I don't think any individual president was as personally responsible for that as Bush was for Iraq
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Jul 29, 2017 23:01
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loquacius posted:Invading Vietnam was arguably worse but I don't think any individual president was as personally responsible for that as Bush was for Iraq I agree with this.
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Jul 29, 2017 23:02
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GalacticAcid posted:As far as post-emancipation presidents go, I'm not sure anyone's done anything as bad as invading Iraq. Vietnam was IMO a worse war but is spread across a couple presidents (that said we still don't know how bad the human suffering of Iraq is going to get because technically we're still living in the aftermath).
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GalacticAcid posted:Suck zonishly read this as suck zionishly and was confused by the rest
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Vietnam was extremely bad but I feel like Iraq is causing bigger aftershocks
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Vietnam was extremely bad but I feel like Iraq is causing bigger aftershocks well the US under nixon indiscriminately bombed millions of people to death in secret during the course of the vietnam war
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UHD posted:don't need hillaries to fan the flames when the thread gladly drags whatever dumb poo poo hillary said in on its own just like how solar panels don't work when the sun isn't out, the suck zone is missing it's primary energy source when hillary isn't making an rear end of herself in public. hillaries are like batteries full of hrc stupidity to keep the thread going during generation down times
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Jul 29, 2017 23:14
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Vox Nihili posted:well the US under nixon indiscriminately bombed millions of people to death in secret during the course of the vietnam war Domino theory might be worse than axis of evil
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Jul 29, 2017 23:17
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Vietnam was extremely bad but I feel like Iraq is causing bigger aftershocks Because we had the decency to lose decisively Edit * in Vietnam I mean
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GalacticAcid posted:Because we had the decency to lose decisively caused enough damage to inflict megadeath and megainstability then bailed just in time for the khmer rouge to rise in the nation we attempted to commit abortive, clandestine genocide upon
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Vox Nihili posted:caused enough damage to inflict megadeath and megainstability then bailed just in time for the khmer rouge to rise in the nation we attempted to commit abortive, clandestine genocide upon But since we lost, the NVA could, in turn, overthrow the Khmer Rouge
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You’ll see how dark once they hit the light Know what I’ve made from the marks on my hands
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The American military's involvement in Iraq isn't even over yet.
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deadgoon posted:every time i see a picture of him he is making that face he kept making that face it got stuck
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Shear Modulus posted:The American military's involvement in Iraq isn't even over yet. Same with Afghanistan.
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GalacticAcid posted:But since we lost, the NVA could, in turn, overthrow the Khmer Rouge Learning this was really a "what the gently caress else have I not been told" moment, along with most of what I learned about Vietnam outside of Middle and high school
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Heaps of Sheeps posted:HILLARY: What happen? 
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As an American I can go visit Vietnam/cambodia/etc in relative safety in most of the country, with Iraq/Iran/Syria,I can't. Let's see how long it'll be until I can, if I ever can.
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loquacius posted:Fox News guy looks appropriately confused by the interview he finds himself having this is his normal face
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Vietnam was extremely bad but I feel like Iraq is causing bigger aftershocks with Vietnam we eventually had the decency to get out, stay out, and let our client regime collapse. once we gave up trying to prop up an unstable status quo, everything eventually crumbled into a largely stable situation with Iraq, we "won", so we're still actively in there propping up a corrupt, incompetent government which is only able to survive with constant US support. it's not "aftershocks", because we never really stopped meddling there
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Iraq/Afghanistan is substantially worse than Vietnam/Cambodia, because the lesson the US learned from Vietnam was not that it was a huge mistake and a terrible thing to do, but instead that if it embedded the media, went after whistleblowers, and kept the death counts artificially low it could wage war indefinitely and people would simply accept it. Pretty soon we will have children born after the beginning of the Afghanistan War old enough to go fight in it.
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Main Paineframe posted:with Vietnam we eventually had the decency to get out, stay out, and let our client regime collapse. once we gave up trying to prop up an unstable status quo, everything eventually crumbled into a largely stable situation we still propped up the south vietnam government even after we left the war. we were providing military aid right up until the end, but their adversary was obviously much stronger than isis.
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Rand alPaul posted:Iraq/Afghanistan is substantially worse than Vietnam/Cambodia, because the lesson the US learned from Vietnam was not that it was a huge mistake and a terrible thing to do, but instead that if it embedded the media, went after whistleblowers, and kept the death counts artificially low it could wage war indefinitely and people would simply accept it. We already almost do!
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GalacticAcid posted:But since we lost, the NVA could, in turn, overthrow the Khmer Rouge why would they invade another country? that's our job
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