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MotU posted:olwen is the best you freakin chumps Not in a world where Rein exists
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Jul 30, 2017 19:19
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Blarblade+ Olwen is actually pretty drat scary Dire Thunder Olwen is a lot less scary
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Jul 30, 2017 19:36
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The only other blue tome user i have is robin, who isn't getting a blade tome since he's on blarrave ta duty.
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Jul 30, 2017 19:38
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Elyv posted:Blarblade+ Olwen is actually pretty drat scary That's true
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Jul 30, 2017 19:39
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Tae posted:I have 0 olwen I got a lovely atk- Olwen and an atk- Reinhardt
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Jul 30, 2017 20:15
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MotU posted:finally stopped picking up and putting down the game and managed to make an actually (near) skill complete Horse Emblem team of Olwen+5, Reinhardt+2, Xander and Cecilia Nope, Horse Emblem is still alive and well. And Cecilia is a bonus unit in the Arena this cycle. Have fun~ I run your exact horse team, except with Camus instead of Olwen. I have never drawn Olwen.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:14
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+Atk Olwen is 1 Atk point better than -Atk Rein and has way more speed.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:25
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The difference between Olwen and Rein is the difference between Hana and Chrom with Braveswords. They're just going for two very different approaches despite being the same weapon type.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:40
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yeah thats why i use both
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Jul 31, 2017 04:08
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The difference is that Rein can kill greens like Nino and other fast high res targets no problem and Olwen can't. Rein is also far more self-sufficient whereas Olwen really needs hone cavalry to do well. Olwen is better off as a blade tome user in horse emblem than with dire thunder imo. I wouldn't run both though since Rein can kill everything olwen can and more so I'd rather leave the slot to a unit of some other color (or even a healer). That said, +atk Reins aren't exactly easy to get so obviously people are going to use her if they pull her and she does a fine job. Andrast fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 04:22
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Can anyone solve this little mystery and explain how this Nino got these stats? Her HP and ATK are slightly below medium (but not low), her SPD is slightly above medium (but not high), her DEF is EXTREMELY low (as in, lower than the lowest it can possibly be), and her Res is significantly lower than medium but not low.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:18
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Is that in the tower? PvE enemies exaggerate their stat patterns
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Jul 31, 2017 05:21
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That's a 4* -DEF/+SPD Nino. Nothing weird about it.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:22
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HP is standard. Attack is standard. Speed is plus. Defense is minus. Resistance is standard. The key is she's 4* Attack has 9 Might Gronnblade added Resistance has Res +3 added Completely normal.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:22
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:Can anyone solve this little mystery and explain how this Nino got these stats? That's a normal 4* +SPD/-DEF Nino (that's an extemely good nature for her by the way) You are probably looking at a 5* Nino stat line.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:23
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That's my Nino, when I was checking her stats. I got a second one, (+Spd, -Def, which I'll obviously be switching to/ranking up) but just for funsies I checked my old 4-star Nino and noticed her stats make literally no sense whatsoever.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:24
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Andrast posted:That's a normal 4* +SPD/-DEF Nino (that's an extemely good nature for her by the way) This IV calculator I'm on says that her speed is supposed to be 39 if it's +SPD and her DEF should be 16 if it's -DEF, for 4* Nino. 
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Jul 31, 2017 05:28
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:This IV calculator I'm on says that her speed is supposed to be 39 if it's +SPD and her DEF should be 16 if it's -DEF, for 4* Nino. Well, the calculator is wrong (those are 5* stats) Use this site: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Nino
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Jul 31, 2017 05:30
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:This IV calculator I'm on says that her speed is supposed to be 39 if it's +SPD and her DEF should be 16 if it's -DEF, for 4* Nino. Use the wiki feheroes.wiki/nino It looks like that calculator only has 5* stats, not 4* stats
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Jul 31, 2017 05:33
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Oh I guess since Nino 2 is +SPD -DEF the same as Nino 1 I'll just rank up the first. Thanks everyone.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:33
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Gamepress is hilariously wrong in many places so take their info with a grain of salt (lol Reinhardt is NEVER top tier according to Gamepress).
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Jul 31, 2017 05:34
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ChronoReverse posted:Gamepress is hilariously wrong in many places so take their info with a grain of salt (lol Reinhardt is NEVER top tier according to Gamepress). Why do all these tier lists love Effie so goddamn much? She's food for some of the most common threats in the game and doesn't have the ORKO power of Hector when defending.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:53
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Wary Fighter on a blue armor unit completely counters sword lords and the Gamepress list really likes sword lords for some reason. The actual correct tier list for sword units has Ryoma and Xander at the top and the rest of them in the '???' pile except Ike and maybe Lucina.
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Jul 31, 2017 05:59
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Andrast posted:Why do all these tier lists love Effie so goddamn much? no waifu no laifu dass why
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Jul 31, 2017 06:02
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ungulateman posted:Wary Fighter on a blue armor unit completely counters sword lords and the Gamepress list really likes sword lords for some reason. The inheritance tier list on the wiki has her on the top for some reason too. I mean, all the tier lists range from absolutely awful to pretty useless but why Effie?
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Jul 31, 2017 06:04
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ungulateman posted:Wary Fighter on a blue armor unit completely counters sword lords and the Gamepress list really likes sword lords for some reason. Why is Ryoma better than Ike? Doesn't Ike have enough tankiness to withstand most mages' attacks and one-shot them in return? How does Ryoma compare to that? In my experience, Linde kills him in one hit, but often needs to use two hits to kill Ike and can get killed by his one shot in between if I'm unlucky. Distant counter is nice but Ryoma still seems like he's a fast-but-flimsy swordlord.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:10
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Andrast posted:The inheritance tier list on the wiki has her on the top for some reason too. There was a period early on when tankish Effie builds were effective.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:14
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oliveoil posted:Why is Ryoma better than Ike? Speed is the best defensive stat in the game. Ike has 1 hp, 5 defense and 3 res over Ryoma, that's not exactly massive. Neither unit is OHKOing Linde at any rate Andrast fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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Jul 31, 2017 06:15
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Andrast posted:Speed is the best defensive stat in the game. Ike has 1 hp, 5 defense and 3 res over Ryoma, that's not exactly massive. ew, absolutely. i cleared chain battle 11 today but i had to doublecheck reinhardt's defensive math vs bruno. a unit can have pretty reasonable defensive stats but it doesn't mean anything if they get doubled
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Jul 31, 2017 06:30
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Speed is why I don't really get what makes ATiki and Nowi good tanks because they get doubled by anything relevant.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:34
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Tae posted:Speed is why I don't really get what makes ATiki and Nowi good tanks because they get doubled by anything relevant. Nowi is just a cheap way to have triangle adept and distant counter on the same blue character.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:37
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oliveoil posted:Why is Ryoma better than Ike? I ran a Nino lineup in Arena for a very long time. Desperation Nino kills Ike, he's not that tanky.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:43
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ATiki is bad Neutral YTiki is 30 speed, which is a whole one less point than Ike. She compensates for this by having 11 more resistance [and a lot less attack assuming Lightning Breath+ but dealing magical damage helps with that]
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Jul 31, 2017 06:44
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As far as I'm concerned any unit with less than 35 base speed is slow
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Jul 31, 2017 06:46
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Has anyone surpassed Effie as the highest attack in the game? Because that's why folks use her.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:56
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90% of Effie's usefulness is Wary Fighter.
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Jul 31, 2017 06:59
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Armors are bad. I have to imagine that even Hector can't be that great in a world where Xander exists
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Jul 31, 2017 07:00
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Then who is the best (Non-magic) blue, then? (I know Rein is the best in magic)
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The man called M posted:Then who is the best (Non-magic) blue, then? (I know Rein is the best in magic) Azura, by a lot Otherwise, being a melee blue isn't that great of a niche at the moment (red sword lords have the same issue). Camus is pretty good and Ephraim can buff blade tomes well. Edit: I forgot Cordelia. She's good. Andrast fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 31, 2017 |
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