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Malachi Constant
Feb 2, 2006

I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all

Turtlicious posted:

I don't get the infinite .9's one? How is .99999999... = 1? It's a different number.

Let me settle this right now.

If a helicopter rotates its blades at a rate of .9999999... revolutions per second and is sitting on a turntable that is rotating at 1 revolution per second in the opposite direction it will never take off.

Hence they're equal.

It's really simple if you think about it. :smug:

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Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Malachi Constant posted:

Let me settle this right now.

If a helicopter rotates its blades at a rate of .9999999... revolutions per second and is sitting on a turntable that is rotating at 1 revolution per second in the opposite direction it will never take off.

Hence they're equal.

It's really simple if you think about it. :smug:

I know you're screwing with me, but I can't stop myself from pointing out there'd be a .0000000000...1 point of lift. It wouldn't take off because that's not enough lift to have it take off.

Also if you spun a helicopter on a turn table that fast, it would fly off of it and kill someone.

e:wait the turn table wouldn't stop the helicopter taking off at all.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


Calling it pedaling is definitely a real thing because without that we wouldn't have the hilarious term "piss-pedaling".

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Turtlicious posted:

I don't get the infinite .9's one? How is .99999999... = 1? It's a different number.

https://i.imgur.com/dHbZeDM.gifv

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Regrettable posted:

I skated for over a decade and this is the first time I've seen or heard someone use it.

You must have been really tired when you finally stopped.

Malachi Constant
Feb 2, 2006

I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all
Okay, if you're serious...

0.99...=1 is a longstanding internet arguement. It does equal one, but the reason why gets into mathematical concepts that aren't normally taught in basic algebra. Things like the different kinds of infinity.

The most basic argument that seems obviously convincing to me is, what is 1-0.999...?

Well, it's an infinity of zeros, right? The 0.999... doesn't stop, so it's zeroes forever, so they're the same.

There's lots of videos and websites that get into more detail if you're interested.

Google search


Meh, I'm sure there are non-posters watching this. They can follow the ample search links and not clutter up this thread.

Malachi Constant has a new favorite as of 09:46 on Jul 31, 2017

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
A funny observation: most of the thread-derailing discussion points basically provoke massive discussions through a deliberate ambiguity in the initial statement, which leads to people mostly arguing past each other. But the 0.999... = 1 debate literally involves one side being totally and unambiguously wrong, yet still provokes similarly intense arguments.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
https://qntm.org/pointnine

Goes through basically the whole thing.

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Calling it pedaling is definitely a real thing because without that we wouldn't have the hilarious term "piss-pedaling".

Never heard that one either. It was always referred to as mongo.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh you guys were serious, I always assumed it'd be written (as I did) .000...1 because eventually, you'd hit the end of whatever.

That doesn't make sense after reading what you guys posted.

That's nifty.

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO
Hello I live in Los Angeles CA and it was hot as gently caress today tho not as bad as the usual, if you really think 100F is hot then you are from either the UK or Canada.

Also .9999 ==1 and traps are not gay.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Schadenfreude thread: wiping your rear end standing up while pedalling .99999999 of a skateboard on a treadmill

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

du -hast posted:

Hello I live in Los Angeles CA and it was hot as gently caress today tho not as bad as the usual, if you really think 100F is hot then you are from either the UK or Canada.

Also .9999 ==1 and traps are not gay.

Please do not call Intersex people "traps."

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

Turtlicious posted:

Please do not call Intersex people "traps."

Actual 100% serious question - is trap an offensive word? I always thought it was like "trans" or "gay", informal but not offensive. :ohdear:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

du -hast posted:

Actual 100% serious question - is trap an offensive word? I always thought it was like "trans" or "gay", informal but not offensive. :ohdear:

From what I've been told (I am not an expert in ANY sense,) calling someone a trap is super bad because of the implication that they're trying to trick / deceive you in some way. Plus like most things, 4chan ruined it.

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

Turtlicious posted:

From what I've been told (I am not an expert in ANY sense,) calling someone a trap is super bad because of the implication that they're trying to trick / deceive you in some way. Plus like most things, 4chan ruined it.

Fair enough.

That said, sucking a feminine penis is not necessarily gay imvho

du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO
Just trying to throw a little more bait here on the fire, since the .9999==1 thing generally is a massive derail :)

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
How much bait? 0.9999999999.... kg, which is objectively a better measurement system than pounds and furlongs?

Malachi Constant
Feb 2, 2006

I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all

Turtlicious posted:

Oh you guys were serious, I always assumed it'd be written (as I did) .000...1 because eventually, you'd hit the end of whatever.

That doesn't make sense after reading what you guys posted.

That's nifty.

Wait, someone on the internet actually thought about the facts that were presented and changed their minds without flailing for 20 pages?

This isn't the internet I know. You must not be and American cause you're not following the rules.

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
Hmmm. Perhaps it is OK to kick a noisy kid at McDonalds?

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

Memento posted:

https://qntm.org/pointnine

Goes through basically the whole thing.

If you gotta preface your statement with "this is totally real and true" you're obviously hiding something :colbert:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Slugnoid posted:

Hmmm. Perhaps it is OK to kick a noisy kid at McDonalds?

I dunno if someone did that to my kid, I'd really unload on them.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Memento posted:

https://qntm.org/pointnine

Goes through basically the whole thing.

the very first proof is misleading, 0.9999... + 0.9999... does not equal 1.9999... because the last number has to be an 8 not a 9

QED BITCHES

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Goa Tse-tung posted:

the very first proof is misleading, 0.9999... + 0.9999... does not equal 1.9999... because the last number has to be an 8 not a 9

QED BITCHES

There is no last number.

I mean, uhh... Calzones are sandwiches.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
I fukken love this thraed

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Turtlicious posted:

I don't get the infinite .9's one? How is .99999999... = 1? It's a different number.

TLDR: "infinite .9s repeating" isn't a number, its more like a formula which if you really solve it equals 1. You can never actually represent "infinite .9s" at one time on paper, its not a number, its an idea of a number. Get it?

The solution involves limits and cardinality of sets, if you don't know calculus its not really gonna grok easily.

The confusion comes from thinking you can't have two different numbers that are equal (true) but the thing is .9999 isn't 1, its only infinite .999999s which isn't really a number. So there's no problem.

Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 11:11 on Jul 31, 2017

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Memento posted:

(eight pages of bad physics discussion)

"Good enough for me, hold my beer!"

https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/891535627316994048

There's some great stuff on that Twitter account

https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/839373620329791488
https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/823425812741267456
https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/816899652402483200
https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/808926452787937281

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Richard Stallman took up skateboarding?

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Slugnoid posted:

Hmmm. Perhaps it is OK to kick a noisy kid at McDonalds?

I dunno, are you autistic?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something

He looks like he goes in Puerto Rican or something, and emerges a white guy with an orange beard.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Ah ha ha ha ha

https://twitter.com/HoldThisBeer/status/754188484261273602

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

I mean, Tony Stark wrecked multiple supercars learning this, and he's a genius. What chance did this guy have?

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!





Pleasedon'tbedrivingpleasedon'tbedrivingpleasedon'tbedriving

*sees back of the seat in front of her at the end of the gif*

Oh, thank Christ.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
What a pointless thing to worry about.

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




Bloody Hedgehog posted:

What a pointless thing to worry about.

There are two threads in GBS right now about people live streaming and/or instgramming fatal car wrecks in which they were drinking or on drugs while driving. I've been following this thread since the beginning. By this point, I fully expect it.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

There are two threads in GBS right now about people live streaming and/or instgramming fatal car wrecks in which they were drinking or on drugs while driving. I've been following this thread since the beginning. By this point, I fully expect it.

wait, what!?

fake e: oh gently caress it took me a moment to realize you didn't mean people IN gbs filming themselves getting into fatal wrecks (how the gently caress would that work). It's too early for me

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Garrand posted:

wait, what!?

fake e: oh gently caress it took me a moment to realize you didn't mean people IN gbs filming themselves getting into fatal wrecks (how the gently caress would that work). It's too early for me

Like that wouldn't be the most popular thread in forums history.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
Are the cars they are driving and crashing automatic or manual tranmission? They could at least pick the more fuel-efficient way to go out

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.
Am I to assume that there are people who wipe their rear end while sitting down?

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dumb.
Apr 11, 2014

-=💀=-

LawfulWaffle posted:

Am I to assume that there are people who wipe their rear end while sitting down?

That's how I wipe 99.999...% of the time.

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