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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? Yes. At my old job and at my new job. We have meeting rooms with a laptop that's always there. So we locked them up
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? Which one, Kensington makes about 6 different laptop locks.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:28
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? We used them for the Zoom Room controller iPads.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:29
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? We were going to start when we had a run of thefts of laptops and microtowers from classrooms and meeting rooms. But then the thefts stopped, and the college decided the locks weren't worth the cost; and that the new rule requiring classrooms and meeting rooms be locked during the day when not in use wasn't worth enforcing either. And yet they keep blaming IT for their budget issues...
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Jul 31, 2017 15:38
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQIJpOhV4c
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Jul 31, 2017 15:50
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You can use a pen, too.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:52
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stevewm posted:I have a user who is notorious for turning in the smallest of issues into big major productions. He will often not give any detail until someone from IT shows up at his desk. He didn't disappoint this morning either. "Logged into security camera near *users* desk, looked at computer and it appears to be fine. Closing ticket, have done what was asked"
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Jul 31, 2017 15:55
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Kensington locks are good if you're trying to stop stuff from wandering from room to room. If you're trying to curb theft, they are so trivially easy to defeat you're better off locking things up in secure area.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:55
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A ticket came in over the weekend. Can't print to the new copier in the boys' dorm. I try to connect and, sure enough, they aren't responding to ping and I can't access the web interfaces. Long story short, after handholding the copier tech through 26 deployments where we set static IPs, I had to leave him alone for the final four installs to attend a meeting and left him with the IP addresses. These four were set for DHCP. Just. Ugh.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:56
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200+ tickets have come in. Cerner is down enterprise wide, 40+ hospitals across the US... lol
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Jul 31, 2017 15:59
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Proteus Jones posted:Kensington locks are good if you're trying to stop stuff from wandering from room to room. A while back I remember watching a recording of two guys who were elevator technicians/hackers doing a presentation (they here hired to test how easy it is to break into certain facilities) and they, along with the crowd, had a good laugh at how easy tubular locks were to defeat. By the way, if you have half a clue, elevators are nothing but security theater and comically easy to screw around with. They likened an elevator to basically having an open stair to any floor it connects to.
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Jul 31, 2017 15:59
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Alkydere posted:A while back I remember watching a recording of two guys who were elevator technicians/hackers doing a presentation (they here hired to test how easy it is to break into certain facilities) and they, along with the crowd, had a good laugh at how easy tubular locks were to defeat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvGfuLlZus It is also about two hours long.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:06
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larchesdanrew posted:A ticket came in over the weekend. Can't print to the new copier in the boys' dorm. Why aren't you using DHCP Reservations?
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Jul 31, 2017 16:11
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anthonypants posted:It's a good talk. They have other videos besides the elevator one, too. It is however, much to my surprise when I was first linked it, an intensely entertaining two hours. When I was a pizza driver I became convinced I could get anywhere short of a secure military complex with an insulated pizza bag smelling of hot pizza. These guys basically confirmed that "look like you're supposed to be there" will get you damned near loving anywhere.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:20
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A VAR was installing a laptop on-sight to get insight on our network traffic. I wasn't able to make it to the office that morning, but the front desk was happy enough to unlock my office for him and let him straight into the server room without checking with anybody on if this guy was really supposed to be there. That guy needed a router config change but I was driving and unable to get him in. He found out the console ports to all of my network equipment is unsecured. The front desk could have given away the data keys to our entire organization that day because this guy had a laptop and said he was supposed to be there.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:25
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? Sort of? At my old job my laptop had to be either A. physically secured or B. on my person at all times. Then again, health insurance and HIPAA.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:37
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anthonypants posted:It's a good talk. They have other videos besides the elevator one, too. Anyone that hasn't seen this yet, please do so. It's really, really fun.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:12
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? At the last place I was ordered to put them in place in one particular office. They're only good for preventing minor efforts at theft.
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Jul 31, 2017 17:20
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Dick Trauma posted:At the last place I was ordered to put them in place in one particular office. They're only good for preventing minor efforts at theft. As my stepfather would say " Just there to keep an honest man honest."
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Jul 31, 2017 17:33
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Hey when your ticket is allegedly high priority loving drop everything because we need this fixed before noon could you: 1. Maybe clue me in before 11:15am the day of seeing as the email chain you forwarded me is over a week old? 2. Answer your phone when I call?
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Jul 31, 2017 19:19
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uPen posted:Hey when your ticket is allegedly high priority loving drop everything because we need this fixed before noon could you:
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Jul 31, 2017 19:22
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Johnny Aztec posted:As my stepfather would say " Just there to keep an honest man honest." Yup. They are trivial to defeat but it kept all my public equipment in place when I ran college labs.
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Jul 31, 2017 19:48
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Naramyth posted:Yup. They are trivial to defeat but it kept all my public equipment in place when I ran college labs. Really even the slightest deterrent will stop 90% of would-be criminals. Even the appearance of a deterrent is often enough.
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Jul 31, 2017 19:50
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MF_James posted:Really even the slightest deterrent will stop 90% of would-be criminals. Even the appearance of a deterrent is often enough. Well, it also helps in that to defeat even a minor deterrant where the potential offender is obviously wallying about in an odd way with said item. They basically want to walk in and walk out with no one else any the wiser.
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Jul 31, 2017 19:56
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If they just wore an oversized polo shirt and a dead inside expression they could pose as desktop support.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:02
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22 Eargesplitten posted:If they just wore an oversized polo shirt and a dead inside expression they could pose as desktop support. Mumbling while staring at the ground helps too.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:14
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Samizdata posted:Mumbling while staring at the ground helps too. Don't forget to rant about how stupid people are
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Jul 31, 2017 20:15
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uPen posted:Hey when your ticket is allegedly high priority loving drop everything because we need this fixed before noon could you: 3. Don't magically re-appear at 12:50 asking if it's been done yet after vanishing off the face of the Earth for 90 minutes. I'm going to lunch.
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Jul 31, 2017 20:50
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anthonypants posted:It's a good talk. They have other videos besides the elevator one, too. This is the most fascinating video I've watched in a long time. Well worth the two hours.
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Jul 31, 2017 22:35
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Kaethela posted:This is the most fascinating video I've watched in a long time. Well worth the two hours. Despite his dumb name, all of Deviant Ollam's presentations are worth watching. Physical penetration testing is a field that lends itself to great stories.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:34
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Inspector_666 posted:Physical penetration testing is a field that lends itself to great stories. New thread title
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Aug 1, 2017 01:39
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I'm all about checking out those videos for extreme learning and satisfaction.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:41
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Inspector_666 posted:Despite his dumb name, all of Deviant Ollam's presentations are worth watching. Physical penetration testing is a field that lends itself to great stories. Agreed, they are all pretty entertaining. Who knew I wanted to watch a presentation on elevators for like 2 hours?
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Aug 1, 2017 01:44
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All physical locks might as well be rated in minutes. All you're adding with them is time before someone detects the attempt at intrusion.
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Aug 1, 2017 02:01
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Sigma posted:All physical locks might as well be rated in minutes. All you're adding with them is time before someone detects the attempt at intrusion. Congratulations. You now get people angry because their 5-10 minute lock got defeated in 5 seconds because someone broke the cheap rear end plastic zip tie they locked the equipment to.
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Aug 1, 2017 02:43
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Jeoh posted:Why aren't you using DHCP Reservations? What are the odds that the vendor could get him the MAC addresses of the printers ahead of time, and then correctly associate those with which ones are ending up where ? What the situation called for was dynamic DNS, we use that for printers on campus. Set the hostname, printer talks to DHCP, DHCP talks to DNS, DNS talks to everyone else.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:03
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One of these days I'll switch from static to reservations.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:19
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mllaneza posted:What are the odds that the vendor could get him the MAC addresses of the printers ahead of time, and then correctly associate those with which ones are ending up where ? Windows server makes it trivial to add reservations, although I guess you'd kind of be assigning IPs willy-nilly... mllaneza posted:What the situation called for was dynamic DNS, we use that for printers on campus. Set the hostname, printer talks to DHCP, DHCP talks to DNS, DNS talks to everyone else. This is 100% the ideal though.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:21
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Alkydere posted:Congratulations. You now get people angry because their 5-10 minute lock got defeated in 5 seconds because someone broke the cheap rear end plastic zip tie they locked the equipment to. Well, if the zip tie was rated at higher than 5 seconds, they should reach out to them for a refund on their ziptie.
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Bigass Moth posted:Anyone ever actually used a Kensington Lock? At a previous job, if you didn't lock your laptop to your desk and the security team saw that it sat there unattended while you were away, they would just grab it. You then had to go and explain to them why you hadn't locked it down and how you would never do it again. I've tried getting traction to implement this at my other jobs, but for some reason nobody wants to do it.
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