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pagancow posted:
ok i made it HD and fixed the banding, here u go: 
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might as well stop watching anything that isnt the most viewed thing in the world so u can only watch gungnam style and that bieber video gl hf
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Jul 31, 2017 03:44
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fishmech posted:ok i made it HD and fixed the banding, here u go: cool i can look at this now without having to commit monitor seduku
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Jul 31, 2017 03:44
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So yeah. Netflix dolby vision stuff. All I see are compression artifacts and hosed up looking contrast. What is this poo poo anyways? Looks like poo poo.
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Jul 31, 2017 04:12
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Dolby Vision gives you 12-bit color channels if all your equipment supports it, and some sort of inter-scene adjustment capability. that said, apparently its implementation might be a bit hosed rn and that's part of why many new Ultra HD Blu-ray discs still don't have it do you actually have a dolby vision tv?
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Jul 31, 2017 04:26
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My understanding is that for implementation Dolby vision is currently on like one Blu ray player and one random windows application and that's it
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Jul 31, 2017 04:28
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fishmech posted:My understanding is that for implementation Dolby vision is currently on like one Blu ray player and one random windows application and that's it vudu and i think a few other us-only streaming apps offer stuff in dolby vision. there are at least 3 uhd blu-ray players (2 from oppo and 1 from lg) that support it, but i've heard stirrings that at least with the oppo players the dv stuff can work incorrectly
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Jul 31, 2017 04:30
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why cant they just give you a better bitrate instead of whatever the gently caress they are doing instead? it's not like you can see more than 3 colors
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Jul 31, 2017 05:22
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more like dummy vision
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Jul 31, 2017 05:24
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hifi posted:why cant they just give you a better bitrate instead of whatever the gently caress they are doing instead? it's not like you can see more than 3 colors but they still exist!
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Jul 31, 2017 05:37
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Ok cool so I'll just stick with the free version of plex. Thanks! 
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Jul 31, 2017 06:06
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I have TNG on Blu-ray op
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Jul 31, 2017 12:08
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univbee posted:do you actually have a dolby vision tv? yeah
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Jul 31, 2017 15:01
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spankmeister posted:I have TNG on Blu-ray op me too. they are pro af
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Jul 31, 2017 15:03
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akadajet posted:yeah could be the fuckery i was alluding to earlier, it's like the implementation needs more time in the oven hdr10 stuff is ok?
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Jul 31, 2017 15:22
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univbee posted:could be the fuckery i was alluding to earlier, it's like the implementation needs more time in the oven Amazon prime has hdr10 stuff. It all looks the same to me. Oversaturated and blown out. Kind of like how they have TVs set up at best buy. I've turned all the sharpening and whatnot off. I have a lg b6 oled.
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Jul 31, 2017 16:22
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close my analog hole
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Jul 31, 2017 17:01
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HDR is going to look over saturated because you are use to looking at a standard from 1996 if you look at rec709 all day the consensus is to master everything around the same level of 120-160 nits as you use to and then let highlights rise up into >500 range. average brightness levels of the whole screen should appear as their rec709 counterparts but highlights are way better
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Jul 31, 2017 19:00
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!!!an engineering problem appears!!! Not every display can hit the rec.2020 color space, nor the 10,000 nits of brightness the standard supports. Dolby has come along with a solution to add a per-frame metadata that tells you what the movie was mastered on. Each DV display has a color and brightness profile and color + brightness management occurs on the display giving you the closest representation your asus gamer poo poo panel can do (assuming they pay for the license for DV lolollolo or calibrate HAHAHAHHAHAWHEHWAHA) Otherwise, it's just like rec.709 all over again where there's a standard, you master to it, but nobody knows if the light gracing your precious eyes is anywhere near correct. The way most TV's handle brightness OVER what the display can handle is to just clip it, so enjoy your blown highlights hrd10ailures
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Jul 31, 2017 19:07
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dolby vision also standardizes the math all this stuff occurs on so you can guarantee some form of uniformity across different display, color gamuts, and brightness levels. HDR10 leaves it up to the TV manufacturers so get ready to get surrounded by the cloud of buzzwords when shopping for a tv
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Jul 31, 2017 19:09
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dolby vision = the cool guy in the black leather jacket riding off into the beautiful sunset that is color space accurate hdr10 = ford fiesta without a bumper
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Jul 31, 2017 19:10
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fyi here is the actual hdr10 logo requirements: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/hdr.htm#ultrahd_premium dci-p3 .05 - 1000 nits or .005 - 540 nits 3840 x 2160 res ( 4k  )10 bit
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Jul 31, 2017 19:32
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pagancow posted:dolby vision = the cool guy in the black leather jacket riding off into the beautiful sunset that is color space accurate it all looks like garbage and I wish netflix had an option to turn it off also it makes subtitles way the gently caress too bright
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Jul 31, 2017 19:51
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^-- lol, hdr has many pitfalls for stupid idiot developers. max every channel = neutral white right???Fuzzy Mammal posted:.05 - 1000 nits or .005 - 540 nits reminder that people struggle to see ~10 nits too well in a well-lit room. that second bracket is a huge cop to display manufacturer's delusions. also per-frame metadata is stupid and i'd be surprised if the dolby solution that ships actually uses it for anything
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Jul 31, 2017 22:44
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Per frame metadata makes sense in live TV where you cant guarentee what brightness levels you're going to get when you point the camera at a sunny area or dim area of the field. or in open world video games where you have huge swaths of dynamic range and want it to be mapped in a reasonable way when going inside and outside buildings
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Aug 1, 2017 00:44
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akadajet posted:it all looks like garbage and I wish netflix had an option to turn it off lol throw your garbage tv in the trash subtitles should be at 100 nits, not max brightness and your tv generates those lol
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Aug 1, 2017 00:45
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:fyi here is the actual hdr10 logo requirements: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/hdr.htm#ultrahd_premium these are min specs but you master for 10,000 nits brightness, rec.2020 color space in PQ gamma space because hdr10 is display referred and you have to pray the display is actually working properly.
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Aug 1, 2017 00:46
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lol this is yospos people are just going to watch movies with a contrast plugin placed on top of the video being played in rec.709 space and then get all huffy when you tell them that their cop drama thing isn't looking the way its supposed to because yall use to looking at asus gamer tn special
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Aug 1, 2017 00:56
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OR the reason most HDR stuff looks oversaturated is because they crank the contrast and saturation when re"mastering" the HDR version because more contrast + more saturation = better, right? 
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Aug 1, 2017 01:37
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For some releases MAYBE, but I watched Lego Batman in Dolby Vision and it looked great. If you're on an HDR10 set all bets are off on how it displays on your screen.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:40
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new movies might look good in hdr if mastered properly using a non-retarded standard that anyone bothers to fully and correctly implement, but existing stuff is just gonna use the existing masters but have the contrast, brightness, and saturation cranked up, whether it looks good or was the original intent or not.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:50
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i think the only non-tn panel i own is in my cell phone
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Aug 1, 2017 01:57
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ok so yospos recco is like an lg c7 w/a chromecast ultra showing netflix content? no don't bring up physical media plz
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Aug 1, 2017 02:10
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just use windows media files they're fine
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Aug 1, 2017 09:33
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I think the scene is good and does important work
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Aug 1, 2017 11:44
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pagancow posted:dolby vision also standardizes the math all this stuff occurs on so you can guarantee some form of uniformity across different display, color gamuts, and brightness levels. gently caress yeah bring back the yellow sub pixels that don't even turn on
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Aug 1, 2017 14:31
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pagancow posted:lol throw your garbage tv in the trash subtitles should be at 100 nits, not max brightness and your tv generates those lol afaict Netflix apps do they own subtitles maybe not on smart TVs but lmao if you use that crap
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Aug 2, 2017 05:36
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HDR is the future, even apple iPad can play back PQ encoded video even if the display is only 600 nits (not HDR by the standards, but hey 4G was not actually 4G in the US until it got reclassified soooooooo)
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Aug 2, 2017 15:35
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Munkeymon posted:afaict Netflix apps do they own subtitles Yeah, I'm pretty sure the searing bright white subtitles is a netflix app bug.
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so do not all hd blu ray players support all of the different hdr standards? if i wanted to buy one and not spend a fortune what should I get??
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