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Vintersorg posted:Yeah, things take a while. Who knows what Daenerys was doing all that time. Use your imagination. This sounds kind of close to "Yeah the writers aren't giving a poo poo about this anymore, fill in the plot holes yourself." Apparently Martin actually has a consultant that figures out how fast medieval armies could typically move and he's always checking to make sure X person could have reached Y place in time for the plot. Probably why the books take a decade to write but..
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:10 |
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But it's not a plot hole? You are inventing some magic warp whistle and your brain can't fill in the blanks. That's on you not the writers. Cersei even throws you a bone. "I'll pay that back in a fort night"
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:12 |
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Vintersorg posted:Yeah, things take a while. Who knows what Daenerys was doing all that time. Use your imagination. https://youtu.be/QmKhGqWcJGY
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:13 |
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Vintersorg posted:But it's not a plot hole? You are inventing some magic warp whistle and your brain can't fill in the blanks. Please explain how a medieval army can march ~500 miles, fight a huge battle, and walk back in two weeks.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:14 |
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Please explain how a woman can walk out of fire. Here's the thing: it doesn't matter. Who cares.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:15 |
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Vintersorg posted:But it's not a plot hole? You are inventing some magic warp whistle and your brain can't fill in the blanks. I don't think most people agree with you on this. They're getting sloppy with who can be where and when, and you're asking the audience to make up bullshit to explain it. You shouldn't have to make your own mental fanfic as to why people are bouncing all over the place in 5 minutes now
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:15 |
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I hope it's at least acknowledged next episode that Tyrion's stupid plan literally wiped out the majority of Dany's forces. Olenna was right, just loving burn the poo poo out of King's Landing.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:17 |
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Vintersorg posted:Please explain how a woman can walk out of fire. This is a failure to understand the difference between what's realistically possible and what's possible in a show's universe. The army thing is an issue because in the show's universe, they move at the speed of real medieval travel. The immunity to fire thing is not an issue because in the show's universe, dragons & magic. .. if this show had a magic artifact that let people portal around, all complaints would cease.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:17 |
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Burn the poo poo out of this thread
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:18 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:I don't think most people agree with you on this. They're getting sloppy with who can be where and when, and you're asking the audience to make up bullshit to explain it. I think most people actually are on the "i don't give a poo poo" bandwagon. Complaining about teleportation in GoT got old years ago.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:18 |
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DutchDupe posted:I think most people actually are on the "i don't give a poo poo" bandwagon. Complaining about teleportation in GoT got old years ago. Probably true, but it's gotten particularly bad recently and I think even the casual viewer notices it, at least in the background.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:19 |
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Whether or not you feel like any "teleportation" has ever happened, we can all probably agree that it's a bit jarring that early seasons had many episodes devoted to talking about travel, planning the travel, doing the travel, etc, whereas now there's a scene where somebody opens their front door and says "I'm off to Highgarden" and there's a cut to them closing a door and saying "I've arrived at Highgarden!"
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:22 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Whether or not you feel like any "teleportation" has ever happened, we can all probably agree that it's a bit jarring that early seasons had many episodes devoted to talking about travel, planning the travel, doing the travel, etc, I think you really nailed why it stands out in particular here.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:24 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Whether or not you feel like any "teleportation" has ever happened, we can all probably agree that it's a bit jarring that early seasons had many episodes devoted to talking about travel, planning the travel, doing the travel, etc, Did you think we were claiming literal teleportation You weren't trolling were you
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:25 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:Probably true, but it's gotten particularly bad recently and I think even the casual viewer notices it, at least in the background. Let's not forget that apparently Euron's fleet can appear at point blank range in any weather conditions, and that he'd have to know where the Dornish/renegade fleet is going to have any realistic chance of engaging them, let alone ambushing them. Basically the show is somewhat lazily wrapping up plot threads, some of which (Dorne) didn't really go anywhere in the first place.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:31 |
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The Lannisters have been getting some key wins lately. Seeing as Cersei is a dumbass, the implication is that the Tarly guy was making all these sound tactical decisions, right?
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:35 |
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Maybe the Drowned God is helping Euron and he doesn't even notice because he'll wake up and be like "poo poo, we're already there? How long was I drunk? NOT LONG ENOUGH EH WOT TOO RIGHT [grabs nuts]" Doesn't seem like the sort of chap to question things too deeply if they're beneficial to him.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:The Lannisters have been getting some key wins lately. Dialogue last week indicates that Jamie is running the tactical game, despite getting Tarly on board for that I thought.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:39 |
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I can't remember but are we sure Jamie hadn't already left when she said "a fortnight"?
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:40 |
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precision posted:Maybe the Drowned God is helping Euron and he doesn't even notice because he'll wake up and be like "poo poo, we're already there? How long was I drunk? NOT LONG ENOUGH EH WOT TOO RIGHT [grabs nuts]" Show-Euron is Deus Ex Pirate as previously discussed, who the gently caress knows what's going on there except that he's the Big Bad and Real Scary and capable of doing whatever the plot needs to create a surprise. It seems he may be correct when he said "I AM the drowned god" Book Euron and Victarion were awesome characters but completely different.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:42 |
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kiimo posted:I can't remember but are we sure Jamie hadn't already left when she said "a fortnight"? She was in bed with Jamie when the lady said, "The Braavos guy is here" so I think he left like.. seconds after the Fortnight scene.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:42 |
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Ah yes. They kind of painted themselves in a corner right there. I mean, I still don't give a poo poo but that is definitely a point scored from team Google Maps.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:44 |
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The whole goddamn army doesn't have to in person deliver the gold.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:47 |
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kiimo posted:Ah yes. They kind of painted themselves in a corner right there. I'd swear that last week, Lord Tarly said to Jamie that it was a "long day's ride" from Horn Hill or something. Anybody remember? Horn Hill is a short walk from Highgarden, so getting any army there in 2 weeks isn't crazy if an old fuckin' fart can do a day-trip for a 5 minute meeting.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:52 |
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It likes how in the Money Pit, everything takes two weeks.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:53 |
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zoux posted:The whole goddamn army doesn't have to in person deliver the gold. Just 20 good men could do it. Of course it sounds simple but there are complications along the way, including treachery, infighting, backstabbing and a big storm to further throw the plan awry. Standalone film directed by Quentin Tarantino.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:54 |
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Ravens seem to move at the speed of US domestic mail or even faster so teleporting people is just a logical extension of that. "Send a raven" in this show is literally "send an email", it never takes the actual weeks or months it would take a bird to fly that far in adverse weather/conditions and also without being shot to make Raven Stew
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:54 |
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I don't think you actually have to give the banker the gold in two weeks either. I'm pretty sure that once he gets news that an entire noble house was ransacked, that he'll be fine waiting another couple of days knowing the money is on its way.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:55 |
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Five hundred miles? In a fortnight?!
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 01:57 |
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"A finger in the bum????" + jaime's non-verbal reaction was pretty much the best his show has ever offered sorry if someones already posted this. euron is singlehandedly carrying this
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 02:01 |
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Do you guys really want to see episodes detailing how Danny is gonna feed the dothraki without the onion night or pointless dialogue where Ser Davis declares his love for Jon Snow while they are sailing to Dragonstone? I mean watching Sansa walking through Winterfell pretending she knows about the proper way to create Stark soldier armor was cringey enough.
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 02:01 |
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What's the point of Dany having a Spymaster in her inner circle when her armies and allies keep getting caught with their pants down? What the gently caress does Varys do all day?
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 02:04 |
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Westeros paying Braavos debts is pretty ridiculous. How would it even be enforced?
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 02:05 |
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When I wake up, well I know I'm gonna need, I'm gonna need this golden hand inside of you. When we head out, yeah I know we'll need Tarly, I'm gonna be the man who gets him just for you. I'm gonna withdraw, all the troops from Casterly, I'm gonna send them all to Highgarden for you. I'll find Olenna, she'll say now "what's it gonna be", I'm gonna be the man who poisons her for you. I would march five hun-dred-miles in a fort-night march five hun-dred more Just to be the Lann' who walks a thousand miles To be the Valonqar
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# ? Aug 1, 2017 02:06 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:I don't think most people agree with you on this. They're getting sloppy with who can be where and when, and you're asking the audience to make up bullshit to explain it. Actually nobody gives a poo poo. how does the logistics of all this affect enjoyment of the show in any way? I don't get it. do you watch a tv show for the characters, story, themes, etc etc. or do you watch it for the realistic depiction of fantasy army travel and made up geography, here's a hint, if it's the second one you may be a nerd posting on this forum and not a normal tv viewer who is able to enjoy a show without giving a poo poo about stuff that doesn't matter
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:When I wake up, well I know I'm gonna need, this is extremely good
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:When I wake up, well I know I'm gonna need,
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Brony Hunter posted:What's the point of Dany having a Spymaster in her inner circle when her armies and allies keep getting caught with their pants down? What the gently caress does Varys do all day?
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Vegetable posted:Westeros paying Braavos debts is pretty ridiculous. How would it even be enforced? Assassination contracts with the Faceless Men, I assume.
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Is it Thursday already? Jesus.
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