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I wish I was informed enough to understand what the dissolution of the State Department means. I know it's terrible. I know it's like having your liver lose function - bad things are certain to come, its just a matter of time. I just wish I knew any details. Nuclear war I guess? Idk.
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the black husserl posted:I wish I was informed enough to understand what the dissolution of the State Department means. I know it's terrible. I know it's like having your liver lose function - bad things are certain to come, its just a matter of time. State Department = diplomats and passports Diplomats can't diplo = advancing foreign policy grinds to a halt
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Aug 1, 2017 03:21
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KickerOfMice posted:Ummmmmmmmmm Just Google it, what's the worst thing that could pop up I was flipping channels the other night, *broadcast* channels, and when I hit PBS there were like three grandmas masturbating a turtle, there was turtle dick right there on the screen, they literally showed turtle ejaculate Apparently the turtle is endangered so they were scientists trying to do artificial insemination Still, oddly graphic for broadcast But then I realized it was National Geographic
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Aug 1, 2017 03:21
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the black husserl posted:I read this in The New Yorker today and it's got me kinda scared about Kelly being in the seat of power. I would be more alarmed if I hadn't seen this at least a half-dozen times before. During his campaign, and during his presidency, there has been multiple times when Donald Trump managed to settle down and restrain himself for a few weeks. There have been a number of times when it looked like he would just be a figurehead and standard Republican politicians would be running things. And everytime, it ends briefly and spectacularly with him shooting his mouth off. Pence, Priebus, McMaster...all of these were the people who were going to reign him in. Kelly probably told Trump that some degree of message control was required for him to take the job. So there will be two weeks of relative calm, then Trump is going to go off, and Kelly is either going to have to resign or be seen as just another puppet in the circus.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:23
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nerdz posted:Deported man's wife and friends rethink voting for Trump Keck? Wow. It's almost too good to be true. 
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Aug 1, 2017 03:23
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Just Google it, what's the worst thing that could pop up wow mcconnell is really putting himself out there. sounds like freaky stuff edit: dog 
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Aug 1, 2017 03:23
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the black husserl posted:I wish I was informed enough to understand what the dissolution of the State Department means. I know it's terrible. I know it's like having your liver lose function - bad things are certain to come, its just a matter of time. A largely non-functional State Department means that the White House is more directly running foreign policy. If US diplomatic missions are also getting hosed (I honestly don't know) then that also means the WH is losing all of its on-the-ground support for foreign policy. Less nuclear war and more a loss of capability when it comes to actually implementing policy goals.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:25
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Just Google it, what's the worst thing that could pop up  Considering Assange's weirdness, nothing would surprise me.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:25
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Lote posted:State Department = diplomats and passports I know that obviously but I don't know what that means. War in Iran? War in Uruguay? Our trade agreements break down? Italians stop buying American porno? Germany pulls out of NATO? If you've got any details, I'm all ears. And I'm curious: wouldn't just one faction of "foreign policy" grind to a halt? The State Department's, that is. It seems like the pentagon often has its own "foreign policy" that its trying to advance, which is why the State Dept. is often cited a check on its power. The only thing I know for sure is "more war".
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Aug 1, 2017 03:26
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the black husserl posted:I wish I was informed enough to understand what the dissolution of the State Department means. I know it's terrible. I know it's like having your liver lose function - bad things are certain to come, its just a matter of time. Tommy Vietor's pod save the world cast this week with David Milliband talking about the Sudanese famine went into some of this but it's basically "the USA has established itself as the only real hegemonic power in the world whether Whatever Political Faction approves of this fact or not, and every other country looks to us in at least a small way for guidance when crafting policy for international relations and issues". Now that guidance doesn't exist or is like, baldly childish and uninformed, so our idiotic governmental dysfunction is starting to literally kill Not-US citizens in an indirect fashion (on top of the direct fashion of you know. Unrestricted drone warfare).
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Aug 1, 2017 03:26
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nerdz posted:Deported man's wife and friends rethink voting for Trump Woman who voted for the leopards eating your face party says " I didn't think they'd eat my face!"
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Aug 1, 2017 03:26
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enraged_camel posted:So he came to America 20 years ago and married a US citizen, and was deported. I believe you can't if you entered illegally.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:31
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FuturePastNow posted:https://diplopundit.net/2017/07/31/tillerson-rescinds-delegated-authorities-department-wide-further-gums-up-foggy-bottom/ Holy poo poo. This is how you tear the State Dept apart- I don't think it will get enough traction but this is really, really sweeping to the point I don't think they really understood what the effects will be. Hopefully it'll be quietly reversed.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:34
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Covok posted:Woman who voted for the leopards eating your face party says " I didn't think they'd eat my face!" Anderson Cooper: Are there times when you feel that you made a terrible mistake? Helen Beristain: Like they say, "You should read the fine print first before you make a selection." I should have listened closely to those debates. That was a mistake I made. I didn't listen. Yeah, that was your problem, the 'fine print'  vvvvv He punched a woman in the face, and he's a proud boy I think vvvvv BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 03:35
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Who the hell is Cernovich anyway? I know he's some alt right star, but what does he do? Blog for Breitbart? Listening to his video. He's shook as hell. Video is basically making the point why would you work for trump if you had anything going for you when it will turn out badly and no support or loyalty from trump. Says he is pivoting away from being branded as a pro trump guy lol.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:35
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the black husserl posted:I know that obviously but I don't know what that means. War in Iran? War in Uruguay? Our trade agreements break down? Italians stop buying American porno? Germany pulls out of NATO? If you've got any details, I'm all ears. Having worked in CA/PPT for several years, it's not just foreign relations. Imagine you are a divorced parent and your ex takes your kids to fly off to [country]. The State Department is the only way you'll ever get that resolved. Or if you have your wallet stolen, and show up at an embassy. Or even the fact we have embassies. When you're in the military and deploy you still need a passport. People are here on visas, and go elsewhere on visas, also managed by the State Department.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:37
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Zwabu posted:Who the hell is Cernovich anyway? I know he's some alt right star, but what does he do? Blog for Breitbart? He started out as an MRA and used Gamergate to propel himself into his current status as a popular idiot.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:37
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Zwabu posted:Who the hell is Cernovich anyway? I know he's some alt right star, but what does he do? Blog for Breitbart? He's being investigated for the creation and spreading of foreign propaganda, IIRC. Goddamn right he's shook
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Aug 1, 2017 03:38
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Zwabu posted:Who the hell is Cernovich anyway? I know he's some alt right star, but what does he do? Blog for Breitbart? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9qMAXuAb1k
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Zwabu posted:Who the hell is Cernovich anyway? I know he's some alt right star, but what does he do? Blog for Breitbart? Nail on the head. A lovely alt-right star. empty whippet box posted:He's being investigated for the creation and spreading of foreign propaganda, IIRC. Goddamn right he's shook 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Just Google it, what's the worst thing that could pop up this is the strangest thing you have posted in this thread
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Aug 1, 2017 03:39
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OhDearGodNo posted:Having worked in CA/PPT for several years, it's not just foreign relations. Imagine you are a divorced parent and your ex takes your kids to fly off to [country]. The State Department is the only way you'll ever get that resolved. So what's going on exactly? If you're a State desk jockey, you need to ask Daddy Tilly if you can go to the bathroom or issue a passport?
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Aug 1, 2017 03:39
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Which will be a more fun trivia game in a coulple years: Is this something that happened in Trump's first year, or something from a TV political drama?, a categorization game -or- Everyone takes turns listing something unprecedented that happened in Trump's first year. Anyone who can't remember something to say or who repeats a story takes a drink
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Aug 1, 2017 03:39
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What was the original perception of this message? That it came from Jr.?
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Aug 1, 2017 03:40
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Giggy posted:To be slightly fair, Flake did acknowledge that the current problems of the party are not the ones Goldwater identified. It is strange he would use that as a title though, referencing Goldwater is less relevant to conservative's minds than referencing Reagan. Well, Flake is from Arizona, just like Goldwater was...
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Aug 1, 2017 03:41
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BrianBoitano posted:Which will be a more fun trivia game in a coulple years: Nah, you couldn't possibly make this poo poo up. You'll be able to tell which is from the trump organization because it sounds utterly ridiculous beyond anything that would ever make it into a tv show.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:42
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empty whippet box posted:Nah, you couldn't possibly make this poo poo up. You'll be able to tell which is from the trump organization because it sounds utterly ridiculous beyond anything that would ever make it into a tv show. I feel bad for Veep writers.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:43
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This timeline is both the best and worst. 
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Aug 1, 2017 03:43
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pokie posted:What was the original perception of this message? That it came from Jr.? Yes. That it was Don Jr putting out the initial statment about the reason for the meeting.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:43
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empty whippet box posted:He's being investigated for the creation and spreading of foreign propaganda, IIRC. Goddamn right he's shook Souce?
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Aug 1, 2017 03:43
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FuturePastNow posted:https://diplopundit.net/2017/07/31/tillerson-rescinds-delegated-authorities-department-wide-further-gums-up-foggy-bottom/ 
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Aug 1, 2017 03:44
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pokie posted:What was the original perception of this message? That it came from Jr.? Well, first of all, it was that Trump didn't know about the meeting and didn't know what they talked about because he wasn't there and didn't know about it and is proud of his son for being transparent. Google Butt posted:Souce? I forget, it was in this thread though. Someone will probably remember it, I got no fuckin idea though.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:44
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https://twitter.com/VJS_Policy/status/892209039626686464 https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/892210929735262208 https://twitter.com/DanielBShapiro/status/892213964569944064
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Aug 1, 2017 03:45
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No lie, this is probably why he praised Jr publicly for being so "transparent"-- because it meant he was praising himself in a way.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:47
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Your Taint posted:No lie, this is probably why he praised Jr publicly for being so "transparent"-- because it meant he was praising himself in a way.
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Aug 1, 2017 03:49
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In a way it's gonna be kinda nice for whoever has to pick up the pieces after all this is over Like okay, you have to re-staff the State Dept and the DOE and EPA and fifteen other major federal organizations. The old institutional knowledge is all gone. But hey! You have a bunch of beautiful big buildings to fill up with new hires, all the furniture is still there, hell the old whiteboards mostly haven't even been erased. You can rebuild everything from the ground up! Won't it be nice having someone do that who is actually invested in success rather than self-immolation
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Aug 1, 2017 03:50
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Data Graham posted:In a way it's gonna be kinda nice for whoever has to pick up the pieces after all this is over All the while a gaggle of tea party fuckwits complain about all the added spending.
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skylined! posted:this is the strangest thing you have posted in this thread That's exactly how I felt when I hit that broadcast and WHAM! TURTLECOCK! I wanted to share that experience with all of you I'm not making any of this up, it was the show about the guy doing the "Photo Ark" of endangered species Later in the episode they showed an endangered lynx hunt and kill a rabbit and the rabbit screamed and screamed as the lynx killed it, it was incredibly graphic You watch National Geographic, you see it all, you see everything
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