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exmarx posted:It's dangerous to assume that Winston's going to go with Labour anyway Whatever happens, at the end of the election, the Nats alone will be in a stronger position than Labour alone; Winston will thus be able to screw more out of Labour than he would National, so he's likelier to go with Labour. Not a guarantee, obviously, but I think it's a likelihood.
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Haven't the Greens ruled out working with Winnie under any circumstances? A Labour coalition would only have one or the other, not both. edit: he'd use Labour's weaker position to demand massive concessions from them, then turn around to National and tell them to give him a better offer.
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Captain_Person posted:Haven't the Greens ruled out working with Winnie under any circumstances? A Labour coalition would only have one or the other, not both.
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Yeah but a 3-way Labour/Greens/NZF government is SCARY, unworkable and bad, but a 5-way National/Act/Maori/UF/NZF govt is cool and good.
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To be fair Act/UF don't count as parties in their own right. They are just corporate welfare recipients entirely dependant on National for survival. Edit: wholly owned subsidiaries is probably more accurate for those two. Varkk fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 00:27
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OK I take it back, Labour are 100% deserving of their reputation as incompetent losers. Unbelievable.
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Loving the optimism ITT.Ratios and Tendency posted:OK I take it back, Labour are 100% deserving of their reputation as incompetent losers. Unbelievable. Except you, you've got the right idea.
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Slavvy posted:Loving the optimism ITT. Thread is full of moaners so it is par for course.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:08
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Jacinda already speaking with more tact and passion than Little managed the past couple of years
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Vulpes posted:loving waste of her talents throwing her on a losing 2017 ticket at the last minute. Sounds like more of a job for Robertson. Pretty sure she'll stay around as leader win or lose e: luckily she is already on the billboards! Wandle Cax fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Helen Clark survived a loss in 96 to win in 99. Also did the election quiz at https://newzealand.isidewith.com/political-quiz to see which party I aligned with and one of the questions made me chuckle  Final result 81% Green 77% Labour 77% TOP
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It's a trick question because Bitcoin is not a currency.
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I think it was the "Should it be illegal to boycott Isreal?" question that really left me scratching my head.
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it's pretty much a reskinned american politics quiz (see references to 'federal government')
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lmbo this site is amazing Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job? if a man lifts 200 40kg bags a day and so does a woman equal pay is ok,but if a woman can only do 80 bags where is the fairness in that? same if it was reversed and the man could only type 80 etc loving get back to secretarying if you want to earn an equitable wage you weakling women.
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Well, I guess this is all in, right? And if NZ rejects the idea of a PM in her mid 30s then we'll really be on the hunt for an entirely new leader who surely can do it this time.
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I'm not convinced she's actually got what it takes... It's a pretty heated job, regardless of what people joke about. I mean, would you vote for someone who said (after being promoted to deputy leader); Jacinda posted:"It's me knowing myself and knowing that actually, when you're a bit of an anxious person, and you constantly worry about things, there comes a point where certain jobs are just really bad for you.  Like, she's freaking out about being made deputy, she's admitted having severe anxiety issues, and she has never (as far as I can see) worked an honest day in her life, jumping from various political appointments to 'socialist youth' groups. A true career politician. Can someone explain the appeal, short of 'she is a nice woman and the best of the rest' ?
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Stuff certainly has had a major shift in coverage of Labour this afternoon. Exceedingly positive, different to boring Bill etc.
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I think the radical difference and change of her being the leader rather than another boring white guy will pick up a few extra percent in the votes. Women seem to do pretty well in NZ politics in my opinion and maybe, just maybe, youth will be more inclined to actually vote for someone who is only 15-20 years older and looks less than that. But I'm probably wrong and yay National go Bill etc.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:Like, she's freaking out about being made deputy, she's admitted having severe anxiety issues, and she has never (as far as I can see) worked an honest day in her life, jumping from various political appointments to 'socialist youth' groups. A true career politician.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:she has never (as far as I can see) worked an honest day in her life, jumping from various political appointments to 'socialist youth' groups. A true career politician. I don't understand this objection. Why is working in politics all one's professional life a bad thing for a politician? Is working in construction all one's professional life a bad thing for a builder? And her being nervous about the job is a positive recommendation in my opinion. Being gung-ho about leading a country is a sure-fire mark of someone who's not qualified to lead a country, if you ask me. The Sin of Onan fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Jeff Sichoe posted:she has never (as far as I can see) worked an honest day in her life, jumping from various political appointments to 'socialist youth' groups. A true career politician. Has Bill English ever held a real job? He is certainly a career politician who had a hobby farm for how it would look politically.
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It really depends on how you define a real job. He was briefly an analyst for the government but he's never had a job outside of public service or his family farm.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:I'm not convinced she's actually got what it takes... It's a pretty heated job, regardless of what people joke about. Not that I'm voting for Labour, but I find nice to be better than the open contemptuousness of National.
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The Sin of Onan posted:And her being nervous about the job is a positive recommendation in my opinion. Being gung-ho about leading a country is a sure-fire mark of someone who's not qualified to lead a country, if you ask me. Yup, this. Unfortunately nothing she or anyone else does is gonna change how hard they're gonna crash and burn and the subsequent year of 'LABOUR SOUL SEARCHING AFTER DEFEAT' paddy gower headlines.
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The Sin of Onan posted:I don't understand this objection. Why is working in politics all one's professional life a bad thing for a politician? Is working in construction all one's professional life a bad thing for a builder? Exactly. The concept seems solidly rooted in the idea that the only life experience of value is the experience of working in the private for-profit sector.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:Can someone explain the appeal, short of 'she is a nice woman and the best of the rest' ? You've never watched her in parliament, I take it? Beyond her qualifications, she's also got a decent amount of respect and popularity from voters already. I think (or maybe I hope) at this point Labour can only go up. They're going to go into debt to reprint all the hoardings though~
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Ghostlight posted:wind, hydroelectric, thorium, and geothermal Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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WarpedNaba posted:Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh More radioactive than = cleaner. That's why solar is cleaner than nuclear 
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Slavvy posted:More radioactive than = cleaner. Less than, dude. Thorium's primarily an alpha emitter (Although there are a few questions about the emissions from the U-233 decay chain).
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WarpedNaba posted:Less than, dude. Thorium's primarily an alpha emitter (Although there are a few questions about the emissions from the U-233 decay chain). Huh. Learned something today.
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Oh, Richie Hardcore. He wants to be woke so bad.
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Slavvy posted:Huh. Learned something today. It's good stuff, the LFTR design of next-gen reactors is looking real fuckin' promising, especially since the fuel doesn't need refining and it's abundant (Thorium's about as common as lead). Read up on it, I was really hoping that Australia would get a head start on the prototypes until Abbott sucked his own turgid cock.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:I'm not convinced she's actually got what it takes... It's a pretty heated job, regardless of what people joke about. What the hell is this? Showing humility is pretty good as she is acknowledging the hard task ahead and yes being a politician is a job. They are there to help lead the country and help their constituents like they have for me. poo poo, if I got nominated for such a job I would be nervous as hell too. The media coverage has been very positive but some of the comments from the other side has been pretty nonsensical. WarpedNaba posted:It's good stuff, the LFTR design of next-gen reactors is looking real fuckin' promising, especially since the fuel doesn't need refining and it's abundant (Thorium's about as common as lead). There isn't enough research for LTFR to be commercial. There is a serious problem with the materials which doesn't exist yet needed to handle the reaction without breaking down pretty fast due to how nasty the reactants are even without the radioactivity. Otherwise the underlying idea is pretty sound for now. Existing of problems with nuclear power could be solved with breeder reactors which makes more fuel then burns that into far less nasty by-products with a much smaller amount of waste. However the problem is it makes plutonium in weapon grade quantities which make current nuclear powers nervous. Canada runs a breeder.
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