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"It could have been shorter and economical, but it wasn't" Audrey's scene was a series highlight you dorks. She pulled a James!
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Thanks to kaworu/others who posted what the scene means to them. I totally understand and can agree with some elements, but for me none of it overcomes the fact that it's way too long and that introducing so many new names this late in the game (because this IS the end of act two, regardless of how many hours are left) is an unnecessary annoyance. Also I'm still reeling at the info from that WTTP article that Forster was actually the original choice for Harry
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Stupid nerd moment here: I was wondering about the timeline in Twin Peaks, since we were given specific dates in Ep 9, and it seemed like things should be past those dates now, so I looked into it out of curiosity. Sept 29 Day (Ep9) - Truman, Hawk, and Bobby read Major Briggs message that specifies Oct 1 and 2 as being "two days from now and the day after". Sept 29 Night (Ep9) - Roadhouse concert Sept 30 Day (Ep10) - Richard attacks Miriam Sept 30 Night (Ep10) - Jacoby radio show (I think the Jacoby scene is shown out of chronological order, and actually occurs later on Sept 30 than the following Sept 30 daytime events. If not, it pushes each of the following one day forward.) Sept 30 Day (Ep10) - Chad grabs the mail and Richard robs his grandmother Sept 30 Night (Ep10) - Hawk talks to the Log Lady and there is a Roadhouse concert Oct 1 Day (Ep 11) - Miriam is discovered by the boys and Becky goes on a rampage Oct 1 Night (Ep 11) - Bobby at the diner and Hawk shows Truman his map Oct 2 Day (Ep 12) - Sarah Palmer has a meltdown at the store Oct 2 Night (Ep 12) - Jacoby radio show, Audrey, and Roadhouse concert So if Ep 13 doesn't open with Bobby/Hawk/Truman going to see the jackrabbits the night of Oct 2, either they missed their window or everything in Twin Peaks is not being show in direct chronological order (or I've missed something which is probably the most likely.)
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I was trying to figure this out after the same thing but after certain stories have progressed days while Truman etc are STILL in "two days before we need to go" in ep 11 I feel like it's a fruitless endeavour.
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Aug 1, 2017 08:24
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Section 9 posted:I think "trolling" is a poor choice of phrase for Lynch's intent. "Trolling" implies that he is doing it to intentionally annoy his audience for his own pleasure. If the point of the scene is to present the reality of how frustrating such a thing can be and to allow the audience to genuinely feel what the characters feel in the scene it is not "trolling". THANK YOU it is so frustrating to see people insist that Lynch is making some kind of anti-TV or fucks with them. Dude has a weird sense of humor (more in line with Tim and Eric than anyone else) and genuine love for domestic scenes where "nothing happens" that he frames like Edward Hopper paintings.
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fatherboxx posted:THANK YOU it is so frustrating to see people insist that Lynch is making some kind of anti-TV or fucks with them. Dude has a weird sense of humor (more in line with Tim and Eric than anyone else) and genuine love for domestic scenes where "nothing happens" that he frames like Edward Hopper paintings. It's anti-tv in the sense that it's actually good.
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JBP posted:It's anti-tv in the sense that it's actually good. True tbh
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I really enjoyed the episode, good TV. But I would probably rank it among the weakest this season Audrey scene was great, but a felt a little too long. Actually, most scenes this episode felt too long, and intentionally, I think Missed Dougie/Janey, Bad Coop and the casino brothers. And more weird poo poo happening
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Aug 1, 2017 12:44
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Lynch always seemed to indulge in long drawn out shots. They gave him twice the screen time, he got to indulge more. This episode did seem like an entire episode of long drawn out shots (and one brief Dougie scene) and I wonder how it'll feel in context of the rest of the show.
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Aug 1, 2017 13:33
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Heck, just throw in another 5-minute scene with a hosed-up looking CG/claymation monstrosity appearing behind a refrigerator or something. Even that would have improved this episode 300%.
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Aug 1, 2017 13:39
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I'm now very horny for Tammy and Glamorous French Woman so I'd have to say the episode was a success
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In a episode full of characters we've never met, what did everyone make of the trailer park scene? I love Harry Dean Stanton so I'm not going to ever complain about a Carl Rodd scene, but I wonder if anything else was behind it besides "Carl is a good guy."
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Aug 1, 2017 14:08
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Think it shows that aside from his van summoning flute he also cares about people's fluids.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:19
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This episode sucked. 1 part exposition to 2 parts filler to 2 parts new characters with no apparent relevance to the story. Only one thing really "happened" and that was Hutch killing the warden in a scene that was useless to the bigger story and a waste of screen time to tie up a loose end no one cared about. More frustrating is that by having the Blue Rose team neglect to look into the oddity from the Major's corpse, Dougie's wedding band, it paints them as incompetent and Cole as being more interested in entertaining himself than solving the case. Just a real disappointment of an episode, even if I can justify it by saying there are peaks and valleys and by dumping this poo poo in one pile means there's less poo poo in the other piles. I still feel insulted as a fan.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:20
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You forgot about the Sonny Jim baseball scene. It turns out getting hit by that baseball was what it took to make Cooper snap out of it.
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Cromulent posted:In a episode full of characters we've never met, what did everyone make of the trailer park scene? I love Harry Dean Stanton so I'm not going to ever complain about a Carl Rodd scene, but I wonder if anything else was behind it besides "Carl is a good guy." If folks are gonna sell their blood for rent money it's just gonna make Peter Thiel more powerful during the finale
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Aug 1, 2017 14:31
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The Carl scene is real good/nice. That's the kind of pointless I love in the show.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:36
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"but its just a filler episode!"
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hahaha that's a light from another house or some such thing
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too much of a coincidence, there's something in the kitchen.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:56
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Vikar Jerome posted:too much of a coincidence, there's something in the kitchen. as the moon and tides can be said to be the arbiters of time, so too can that great celestial body be said to be the home of time itself. as the giant said, "it's in hour house now". the white lodge is the moon.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:58
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Every time someone mentions Jack Rabbit's Palace I think of that restaurant from Pulp Fiction.
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Aug 1, 2017 15:00
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My Lovely Horse posted:Every time someone mentions Jack Rabbit's Palace I think of that restaurant from Pulp Fiction. And Tim Roth is in play now too!
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Aug 1, 2017 15:04
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Normally I get annoyed when the episode is particularly slow, but this time I thought it was loving hilarious. Gordon and Albert's scenes, and Audrey too. I really liked the episode, the conversations really worked for me especially.
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gently caress
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I get the feeling that David Lynch is one of those directors who feels acutely every cut that needs to be made for time or flow, and having been given 18 hours to work with is indulging a bit.
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Aug 1, 2017 15:16
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RIP to invaluable Miguel Ferrer, the #1 viewer surrogate
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Escobarbarian posted:I was trying to figure this out after the same thing but after certain stories have progressed days while Truman etc are STILL in "two days before we need to go" in ep 11 I feel like it's a fruitless endeavour. Yeah, I initially was trying to reconcile all the plot lines but it got pretty convoluted so I just focused on the day/night cycle of scenes from Twin Peaks. I'm as certain as can be that scenes shown between Twin Peaks, Buckhorn, and Vegas are not occurring concurrently. Probably because I was thinking about it so much right before going to sleep I had a dream/thought overnight that sort of like with Arrested Development season 4, we are being shown events that are happening at all sorts of different times but they will all eventually converge together at the climax. With all the Roadhouse scenes and music I imagined the Roadhouse is the exact point of the coordinates and Richard, Bobby, Hawk, Truman, Gordon, Albert, Tammy, Diane, Audrey, Bad Coop, Dougie, and others are all being drawn there for some sort of final showdown.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:RIP to invaluable Miguel Ferrer, the #1 viewer surrogate ALBERT... SOMETIMES I REALLY WORRY ABOUT YOU
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The Jack Rabbit's Palace thing seems like it may involve communing with two Coopers and the evil mother, so I wouldn't be surprised if the show just goes "two days can be a week, whatever" and saves that sequence for the finale. Time is dead and meaning has no meaning.
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Cromulent posted:In a episode full of characters we've never met, what did everyone make of the trailer park scene? I love Harry Dean Stanton so I'm not going to ever complain about a Carl Rodd scene, but I wonder if anything else was behind it besides "Carl is a good guy." He doesn't like people selling their blood for food.
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Garmonbozia.
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oh poo poo, the ending for part 18 got leaked! watch at your own risk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMuScOv79fc
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Vikar Jerome posted:oh poo poo, the ending for part 18 got leaked! watch at your own risk! worth it
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Breadallelogram posted:He doesn't like people selling their blood for food. Fun fact: Blood can't be bought or sold in the US. Plasma can, and if you have surgery they can charge you for the materials and the labor needed to pump blood into you, but the red cells themselves are priceless. Donate blood. Vikar Jerome posted:oh poo poo, the ending for part 18 got leaked! watch at your own risk! Two things: Were the credits taken from another episode and added here or made for the goof? I noticed that Hawk is credited as Deputy Chief Tommy ,,Hawk" Hill which looks weird. Second, my friend noticed for the first time that the Native American character has the affectionate nickname Tommy "Hawk" or "Tomahawk". I can't remember if they pointed that out in S1 or not.
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This episode felt pretty directly antagonistic to its audience. YOU AREN'T GOING TO TELL ME WHAT SHE SAID?!?
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LawfulWaffle posted:Second, my friend noticed for the first time that the Native American character has the affectionate nickname Tommy "Hawk" or "Tomahawk". I can't remember if they pointed that out in S1 or not. It's never referenced in the show, but Hawk has a dossier in the Secret History book where he mentions it: Hawk posted:Let me add here, at the time, I still had some resentment toward Frank [Truman], since he was the one who first hung the "Tommy Hawk" nickname on me in junior high. Back then, white people still found condescending poo poo like that funny. You know, like F Troop or casting a Jewish guy from Brooklyn named Jeff Chandler as Cochise.
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Vikar Jerome posted:"but its just a filler episode!" What is the time code for this scene?
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