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Fallen Hamprince posted:Gettin' real excited for the jacobin article about how new sanctions on a handful of PSUV bigwigs prove that regime change is immanent and therefore you really can't blame Maduro for the motorbike death squads because both sides ya know they put out an article saying maduro is bad and now crazy people are saying they're a CIA front
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we gotta stand up for the secret police arresting people on the middle of the night on no charges because vida azul importa
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Scent of Worf posted:You can be sure that patriots like Hamprice will be there every step of the way to tell you how US bombs are actually liberating your family Stop posting anywhere
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Aug 1, 2017 14:13
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Badger of Basra posted:they put out an article saying maduro is bad and now crazy people are saying they're a CIA front I saw one of their recent articles and there was some good reluctant complaining about how Chavez's successors (ie the spineless lackeys he handpicked) are failing to live up to the Bolivarian Revolution (by continuing to implement his policies). Plus a truckload of "both sides are bad" including allegations of phantom right wing militant groups that sound like they were copy-pasted from Telesur English.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:23
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Aug 1, 2017 14:25
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Fallen Hamprince posted:I saw one of their recent articles and there was some good reluctant complaining about how Chavez's successors (ie the spineless lackeys he handpicked) are failing to live up to the Bolivarian Revolution (by continuing to implement his policies). Plus a truckload of "both sides are bad" including allegations of phantom right wing militant groups that sound like they were copy-pasted from Telesur English. the right wing militant groups are real tho?? i don't even support all the things maduro is doing but they're definitely real
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people seem to insist those groups are the same as the civic protestors, the ones who have had triple digit fatalities at the hands of state police forces and apparently now face the threat of being disappeared by the secret police
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Aug 1, 2017 14:54
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Zikan posted:people seem to insist those groups are the same as the civic protestors, the ones who have had triple digit fatalities at the hands of state police forces and apparently now face the threat of being disappeared by the secret police the right wing militants are so good at blending into the general population that it's impossible for the untrained eye to distinguish them. most don't even carry weapons
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the right wing militants are so good at blending into the general population that it's impossible for the untrained eye to distinguish them. most don't even carry weapons yeah thats also how the right wing militants operate here at home in america in american leftist orgs
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Aug 1, 2017 16:33
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Fallen Hamprince posted:a once relatively rich but declining nation, stricken with poverty and police violence, whose strongman leader reacts with increasing authoritarianism as his support shrivels away to a hard core of true believers i see what you did there heh 
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Aug 1, 2017 16:48
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A popular right wing party candidate, sergio massa, met with rudolph giuliani. Lmao were screwed
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Aug 1, 2017 16:57
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yes a bumbling social democrat is worse than the neolib fascists being lined up to take over
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ArfJason posted:A popular right wing party candidate, sergio massa, met with rudolph giuliani. Lmao were screwed Since like almost every one else is under investigation or with a ruined reputation the two biggest names on the next elections here are a guy who is ten times the fascist that Americans thought Trump would be and a dude who acts like a populist but his family is one of the regional oligarchies in my state
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Aug 1, 2017 17:14
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Power does a lot to keep itself in power, and the ironic thing is, they have the power to do it...
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Aug 1, 2017 17:15
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Bolsonaro is such a massive piece of poo poo and he's super popular because this country has gone incredibly fascist lately. I don't think even Trump would get away with telling a congresswoman on television that she is too ugly to rape
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Aug 1, 2017 17:16
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as I recall he did basically exactly that with several women who accused him of sexual assault during the election
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro is such a massive piece of poo poo and he's super popular because this country has gone incredibly fascist lately. I don't think even Trump would get away with telling a congresswoman on television that she is too ugly to rape Lmao
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Aug 1, 2017 17:31
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We're all living in very stupid times.
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In this pic: a "phantom" makes a speech after bombing the judiciary with a helicoptor:  Can we say that maduro is bad and that the protesters are mostly expressing legitimate grievances while also acknowledging how lovely much if not most of his opposition is?
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Aug 2, 2017 20:28
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Yossarian-22 posted:In this pic: a "phantom" makes a speech after bombing the judiciary with a helicoptor: bernoutcongressshooter.jpg
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Aug 2, 2017 21:35
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Aug 2, 2017 21:42
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Frijolero posted:Some good cartoons from a Mexican newspaper making fun of Fox and other politicians for going after Venezuela when there's rampant abuse and corruption in Mexico. meixcan goverment is going hard on the whole gently caress venezuela thing because pointing at venezuela and screaming "you dont want to end up like them huh??!!" is their favorite tactic agaisnt leftists and it just so happens that there is an election coming up with the leftist candidate in the lead
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Aug 2, 2017 23:56
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Congress just voted to archive the criminal process against Temer lmfao
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Aug 3, 2017 00:32
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Plutonis posted:Congress just voted to archive the criminal process against Temer lmfao http://i.imgur.com/sKEvUiU.mp4
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Yossarian-22 posted:In this pic: a "phantom" makes a speech after bombing the judiciary with a helicoptor: That phantom is an action movie actor, the bombs he dropped were smoke grenades and all evidence points to it being a false flag by Maduro
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Aug 3, 2017 00:40
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Byolante posted:That phantom is an action movie actor, the bombs he dropped were smoke grenades and all evidence points to it being a false flag by Maduro Admittedly the whole thing was very poe's law so it was hard for me to make sense of it one way or the other. Can you back that up?
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Yossarian-22 posted:Admittedly the whole thing was very poe's law so it was hard for me to make sense of it one way or the other. Can you back that up? There are claims floating around about him being spec ops but his entire profile suggests he is a political officer. He was the lead in an action film about a real rescue of a hostage in 2015, his instagram feed before it went dark is all pro CICPC propanga like him going to a kids hospital to be told they have no medicine and how the filthy capitalists stole it from them, or cuddling a police dog, or shooting a target with a pistol over his shoulder using a mirror. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40429867 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8cxBgL7r_U
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro is such a massive piece of poo poo and he's super popular because this country has gone incredibly fascist lately. I don't think even Trump would get away with telling a congresswoman on television that she is too ugly to rape
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Aug 3, 2017 05:53
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Plutonis posted:Congress just voted to archive the criminal process against Temer lmfao lol
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babypolis posted:meixcan goverment is going hard on the whole gently caress venezuela thing because pointing at venezuela and screaming "you dont want to end up like them huh??!!" is their favorite tactic agaisnt leftists and it just so happens that there is an election coming up with the leftist candidate in the lead Gringo question: so you've mentioned the whole 'paranoid style' of politics being wholesale adopted in Brazil is the paranoid concern (IE takeover by Maoist revolutionaries or whatev) in any way a real thing, or is this just the poo poo mist to obscure neoliberal gently caress-you-got-mine-ism Or is this a hopeless naive question since gently caress-you-got-mine [FUGM] is the rationale for everything now Also: it seems like Venezuela will not be able to pay its debts by the end of the summer, what happens after?
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Wouldn't surprise me if helicopter movie dude was false flagging it, but he seems crazy enough to try and the Chavistas have really pushed Hugo's 92 coup attempt as this big moment in history, so I can see why a security officer would internalize that message and flip it around.
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Can anyone summarize the changes in governance structure that have occurred in the most neutral way possible, like in a non-neolib vox explainer fashion? All I know is that: - Executive/judiciary are pro-Maduro - Parliament is pro-opposition - Votes of no confidence are opposition staged -Constituent Assembly is PSUV-staged and supposed to be a more "democratic" or "dictatorial" body depending on who you ask I'm also trying to make sense of all the competing claims of bourgeois economic warfare vs. poor governance on the part of PSUV. I know that the oil based economy is the primary factor for Venezuela's downturn. I'm also thinking that inflation and its discontents can be a lesson for us who want to perfect "21st century socialism."
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as more socialists have turned their backs on venezuela in recent years, one accusation that i hear from them is that it's always been less socialist and more peronist. i've done a little bit of reading and the comparison holds up on the surface, but i'd rather hear from someone who knows more
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Nebakenezzer posted:Gringo question: so you've mentioned the whole 'paranoid style' of politics being wholesale adopted in Brazil i dont know about brazil but in the mexican case Lopez Obrador, the leftist candidate, is actually fairly moderate. his big claim to fame is being mayor of mexico city and doing a great job, revitalizing a filthy and crime ridden city. but a lot of what he did was through poo poo like public-private partnership and other stuff like that. dude is no radical, its pure propaganda basically
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A hallmark of The Paranoid Style is to act like left-liberals are actually Stalin.
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Macri Gato
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Plutonis posted:Bolsonaro is such a massive piece of poo poo and he's super popular because this country has gone incredibly fascist lately. I don't think even Trump would get away with telling a congresswoman on television that she is too ugly to rape 
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the wikipedia article on him translated him as saying "you're not worth it" but every other thing i've read said "you're too ugly"
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Guys I'm interested in what's going on down thar, so I went to the Guardian and the Economist (I know, but when not peddling their stupid ideas they do good international reporting IMO) and well, I didn't get very far Because the first article on the Guardian I saw about Venezuela had the ex-mayor of London Ken Livingston saying that Chavez hosed up when he didn't straight up murder the oligarchs in Venezuela I think then I went for a bike ride Nebakenezzer has issued a correction as of 21:42 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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