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That was such an exciting time to be a NIN fan. Year Zero, the whole ARG playing out, then just a year later we got Ghosts and The Slip. It seemed like every few months NIN was the top trending topic on Digg (remember Digg? Remember his interview with Kevin Rose?). I've been wondering too - has Trent parted ways with Rob Sheridan? He was such an integral part of NIN's presence (heh) for such a long time but I don't think he's been involved at all since before Hesitation Marks.
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polyester concept posted:(remember Digg? Remember his interview with Kevin Rose?). Holy poo poo, wow, I had completely forgotten about this. That interview was great. I remember just eating all that up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBxhxVIiwaA
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I'm with Trent in the pre-internet caveman days - I miss album art, liner notes, and the mystery of an artist. I couldn't go out and buy an armful of albums (or stream them) at the time, so you had to be more selective about what you got. Sometimes it was garbage, mostly it was okay, occasionally it was amazing. You'd listen to the same album over and over to catch the nuances of the music and lyrics - it seemed more an investment than it does now. On the other side, music discovery is easier now, you can listen to basically anything, anywhere, any time you want. A lot of times that makes me feel a little overwhelmed - If I listen to artist X and the first few tracks don't catch me, and the same happens with the next artist I listen to, do I bother with the rest of the recommendations or not? I mean, I can go as deep as I want, but I can definitely see how us old bastards could be a little put off by the feast of tracks we can dive into whenever we want. Feels a little less personal, and like Trent mentioned, it seems music is more just something people listen to while they do other things. Get off my lawn.
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polyester concept posted:I've been wondering too - has Trent parted ways with Rob Sheridan? He was such an integral part of NIN's presence (heh) for such a long time but I don't think he's been involved at all since before Hesitation Marks. He was a part of HTDA and their tour later in 2013 after Hesitation Marks was released.
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'm with Trent in the pre-internet caveman days - I miss album art, liner notes, and the mystery of an artist. I couldn't go out and buy an armful of albums (or stream them) at the time, so you had to be more selective about what you got. Sometimes it was garbage, mostly it was okay, occasionally it was amazing. You'd listen to the same album over and over to catch the nuances of the music and lyrics - it seemed more an investment than it does now. I'm sort of halfway. I like all the liner notes and all that stuff but I'd generally look at it once when I got something new and then on the shelf it went forever and ever while the disc went into a gigantic CD changer, only to be removed to be put in the car. The one thing I will agree with is the idea that music is now background noise more than anything, but for a different reason. It was next to impossible to listen to music while you were at the gym or whatever back in the CD days. Sure, you had all those terrible anti-skip gimmicks and all that, and I guess you could make a mix tape if you somehow still had a working walkman, but poo poo that was a pain. I loved minidiscs but that was because I was a tape (MD) trading nerd so that's really when music being "portable" took hold for me.
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If I had bought the new Arcade Fire album on CD without ever hearing any of the tracks from it, I’d be feeling some serious buyer’s remorse. Incidentally, I bought Arcade Fire’s Funeral on CD at Barnes & Noble soon after it released in 2004 without hearing any of the tracks from it first because I had heard great things about it and it ended up being one of my greatest music purchasing decisions ever.
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polyester concept posted:I've been wondering too - has Trent parted ways with Rob Sheridan? He was such an integral part of NIN's presence (heh) for such a long time but I don't think he's been involved at all since before Hesitation Marks. His twitter bio says "formerly of htda/nin" so yeah, looks like it. He mentions the break in this interview: http://warp.la/editoriales/from-the-mag-rob-sheridan-art-is-resistance-2 I don't think they fell out, I think Rob just burnt out and wanted to do something else by the looks of it. He mentions the Tension tour being difficult so I'm guessing that's what caused it.
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There's definitely some "get off my lawn" in that interview, but overall I'm impressed by his humility. He feels a certain way about things, but he's also genuinely trying to understand why everyone else doesn't feel the same and if there's merit to the other side. And it's obviously not just talk, since he's been pretty generous about piracy and stuff despite not liking it in theory. (After a brief fit of rage in the early 2000s, of course) Of course, that doesn't stop the interview from being mined for headlines like "Trent Reznor Doesn't Get Drake's Success, Calls Ashton Kutcher an rear end in a top hat'"
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'm with Trent in the pre-internet caveman days - I miss album art, liner notes, and the mystery of an artist. I couldn't go out and buy an armful of albums (or stream them) at the time, so you had to be more selective about what you got The problem is if you want really nice album art, liner notes, packaging, and so on you generally need the backing of a label in order to get all that lined up, funded, and done. Which leads to a lot of other problems for the artist - in this case for example Trent has certainly spent a lot of his life dealing with the legal bullshit caused by labels. And as he points out in that 2009 interview, while the percentage of people who paid for Niggy Tardust was disappointingly low, Saul still made more from that release than he would have through a traditional label contract. What's nice about the internet model is it's far easier for independent artists to get their work out there to wide audiences without that kind of support.
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Earwicker posted:The problem is if you want really nice album art, liner notes, packaging, and so on you generally need the backing of a label in order to get all that lined up, funded, and done. Which leads to a lot of other problems for the artist - in this case for example Trent has certainly spent a lot of his life dealing with the legal bullshit caused by labels. And as he points out in that 2009 interview, while the percentage of people who paid for Niggy Tardust was disappointingly low, Saul still made more from that release than he would have through a traditional label contract. Oh, for sure on all counts. We're definitely not starving for new music in any sense. I think I just get a little analysis paralysis when it comes to finding new stuff. Sir Lemming posted:There's definitely some "get off my lawn" in that interview, but overall I'm impressed by his humility. He feels a certain way about things, but he's also genuinely trying to understand why everyone else doesn't feel the same and if there's merit to the other side. And it's obviously not just talk, since he's been pretty generous about piracy and stuff despite not liking it in theory. (After a brief fit of rage in the early 2000s, of course) I wasn't too surprised with his thought processes, as I think some of that comes with being an old fart - Trent is only 5 years older then me, and it seems like I more and more think outwardly about stuff as I age (which is fairly common, from what I understand). It's sort of fun to have aged along with him and watched him change, although again, I'm torn between having all the info there is out there about him vs. having him (or any other artist) a little more out of reach. I dunno. Old people stuff.
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https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial/photos/a.10150097171211221.314441.19787971220/10155413266346221/?type=3&theaterquote:Nine Inch Nails will be a part of Panorama NYC's webcast.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Yeah seriously. Having everything I want to hear available at all times on a little computer in my pocket is a dream come true for a former kid who had literally hundreds of CDs spread across multiple CD binders. It saves me so much time and I’m still able to enjoy everything I want to hear. This. Though having that ability also pretty much reduced all my albums into a giant collection of singles.
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Earwicker posted:The problem is if you want really nice album art, liner notes, packaging, and so on you generally need the backing of a label in order to get all that lined up, funded, and done. I'm surprised that more people haven't tried to take advantage of the benefits of digital with these. Like Trent (and Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:I'm surprised that more people haven't tried to take advantage of the benefits of digital with these. Like Trent (and whoever that one artist from What.CD was) did cover art for every song, which was cool, but nobody has tried to shake up liner notes. It's always a PDF in the style of a CD booklet or a giant poster designed to be printed out, which is a pain to look at on the computer. "So like... A companion app?" - some out-of-touch musician
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TOOT BOOT posted:I haven't heard any of their albums all the way through but I always thought Tears For Fears was surprisingly good for an 80s pop band. a mysterious cloak posted:I'm with Trent in the pre-internet caveman days - I miss album art, liner notes, and the mystery of an artist. I couldn't go out and buy an armful of albums (or stream them) at the time, so you had to be more selective about what you got. Sometimes it was garbage, mostly it was okay, occasionally it was amazing. You'd listen to the same album over and over to catch the nuances of the music and lyrics - it seemed more an investment than it does now.
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sticklefifer posted:On the other hand, I didn't have a lot of money to burn growing up. Blowing my allowance on a CD for that one radio hit I really liked and then finding out it's the only good song on the album, then getting $3 for it at a We Buy Used CDs store a month later was pretty disheartening and made me discover less music. I still appreciate music a lot and certain albums still really resonate with me, but I don't miss the crapshoot of the music market at all. If I was paying $20 for each album I probably wouldn't be doing this, though. I remember trying real hard to find some kind of highlights out of a couple of blind-buy (deaf-buy?) CDs I got back in the 90s...
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:https://www.facebook.com/ninofficial/photos/a.10150097171211221.314441.19787971220/10155413266346221/?type=3&theater Hahaha those sunglasses and gloves as he came out.
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Link to the livestream: https://www.yahoo.com/music/live-stream-panorama-nyc-festival-weekend-yahoo-music-171512639.html
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Well I guess they're back to playing Closer this tour!
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Gave Up, gently caress yes
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Jul 31, 2017 03:17
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Holy poo poo, Great Destroyer 
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Jul 31, 2017 03:32
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Megaphone into a microphone, loving nice
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That was pretty great. The Bowie tribute was really cool, and Great Destroyer is one of my all-time favorites.
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Is there an archive of the stream anywhere?
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david_a posted:If I was paying $20 for each album I probably wouldn't be doing this, though. I remember trying real hard to find some kind of highlights out of a couple of blind-buy (deaf-buy?) CDs I got back in the 90s... Funnily enough I got into Bauhaus this way when I was in high school. I had heard OF them because they were a major influence of a ton of the bands I listened to, and the only thing I could find online at the time was a 1:00 RealMedia clip of their cover of Spirit in the Sky, which is arguably one of their weaker tracks anyway. I decided there had to be something to it if everyone was talking about them though, so I just ended up buying their Best Of, as well as Joy Division's since they were another big influence on the bands I liked.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Is there an archive of the stream anywhere? I saw someone uploaded the full thing to YouTube like an hour ago and it already got removed for copyright infringement 
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poo poo, surprise show at Webster Hall tonight presale code is LESSTHAN
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Oh cool, only $75 a ticket 
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the code is expired now. Can't really afford it anyway but very tempting
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Anyone have a new code?
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magiccarpet posted:dang did anybody get any Find out at stubhub.com
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Full concert is here (only in 440p) get this downloaded before it gets pulled! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JujihaeDpQ0
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Bang3r posted:Full concert is here (only in 440p) get this downloaded before it gets pulled! Love how it starts with the quote and then that drum beat... though since its similar sounding it crossed my mind how funny it would have been if he opened with Everything. Edit: The 
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interesting they're going back to the analog tape strung all over everything look from their early days
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sticklefifer posted:On the other hand, I didn't have a lot of money to burn growing up. Blowing my allowance on a CD for that one radio hit I really liked and then finding out it's the only good song on the album, then getting $3 for it at a We Buy Used CDs store a month later was pretty disheartening and made me discover less music. I still appreciate music a lot and certain albums still really resonate with me, but I don't miss the crapshoot of the music market at all. Oh yeah, definitely. I think everyone has had that, "This song is great" moment and then the album is a piece of crap. That always sucked - but I think I kept most of the great-single-but-lovely-albums. I agree it is nice to not have to blindly buy music that may or may not suck.
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a mysterious cloak posted:Oh yeah, definitely. I think everyone has had that, "This song is great" moment and then the album is a piece of crap. That always sucked - but I think I kept most of the great-single-but-lovely-albums. I agree it is nice to not have to blindly buy music that may or may not suck. I bought an ugly kid joe album so yeah
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Platypus Farm posted:I bought an ugly kid joe album so yeah I bought Fastball's first album Actually that CD wasn't bad
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