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aware of dog posted:Mint the coin, Trump. If someone tells him he can have his face on it, he'd do it in a heartbeat.
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the black husserl posted:Uh, I'm pretty sure a shutdown isn't going to cause "violent street riots". The last one certainly didn't. That's because people assumed /realized that the shutdown would eventually end.
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Fangz posted:The only relevant figure is debt as a proportion of GDP, trying to keep debt to a fixed amount basically equates to driving down debt to zero, which means forgoing a massive amount of investment for no reason whatsoever. Actually that doesn't matter either. What matters, if anything, is debt payments as a portion of the budget.
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If the US Government defaults, then the bedrock of the world's financial system defaults. Most of the world's economy runs under the assumption that US government debt is 100% AAA+++ safe as hell. If that suddenly shakes and isn't safe anymore, then the consequences would be vastly, vastly greater than the Great Depression.
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DaveWoo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/892383242535481344 Kind of a shame we're already on repeat with these tweets. Retweets.
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WampaLord posted:If someone tells him he can have his face on it, he'd do it in a heartbeat. Idk, he's more of a gold man than a platinum one.
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I assume defaulting would be something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NnTU_OMqpA
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the black husserl posted:Yeah, I'm really not talking about a default. I'm talking about a de facto permanent shutdown. If your logic was true, why did the Republicans end the shutdown under Obama? Republicans enjoy abusing Federal services and their donors and constituents like their federal checks to keep flowing. If Republicans could pick and choose to shut down only the parts of the Federal government, you're right that's basically their goal. But Boeing and Humana want their check and it is Social Security and Medicare keeping a bunch of Republicans alive.
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the black husserl posted:Yeah, I'm really not talking about a default. I'm talking about a de facto permanent shutdown. The threat of a shutdown is a tool by Republicans to get concessions. Republicans don't want a shutdown because it bites them in the rear end every time and there's no one to use the threat against because they control two branches of government. And no one wants a default except maybe Trump because he's an idiot. Maybe they should frame it in different ways. Like, "Russian banks will charge you three times as much interest and repossess your wife."
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DaveWoo posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/892383242535481344 If 110 million people want you to stop something, it's probably worth considering.
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Holy poo poo, how did Jill Stein remain unnoticed for so long in that Flynn+Putin photo
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Serfer posted:If 110 million people want you to stop something, it's probably worth considering. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm assuming a moderately boring apocalypse. As a white bougie liberal I'm not sure there is a trulu dystopian future where I survive You had the means to amass an armory, thats squarely on you.
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coyo7e posted:Holy poo poo, how did Jill Stein remain unnoticed for so long in that Flynn+Putin photo It did not go unnoticed.
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm not sure what tools Democrats have left to really fight Wray, it is a 51 vote to confirm and there will be 0 Republican defectors. You can't do an amendment-a-rama on a confirmation vote. McCain isn't there, even 1 defector would be bad
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TIL the debt ceiling is loving insane
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Teddybear posted:If the US Government defaults, then the bedrock of the world's financial system defaults. Most of the world's economy runs under the assumption that US government debt is 100% AAA+++ safe as hell. Eh, not so much any more. Remember the US lost its S&P AAA credit rating back in 2011 and still hasn't regained it; there is a recognition in the market that the possibility of a US default is non-zero.
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coyo7e posted:Holy poo poo, how did Jill Stein remain unnoticed for so long in that Flynn+Putin photo She didn't. NRVNQSR posted:Eh, not so much any more. Remember the US lost its S&P AAA credit rating back in 2011 and still hasn't regained it; there is a recognition in the market that the possibility of a US default is non-zero. Not entirely true, and in a few important ways. Many products are still priced at T+X, T holdings are still central to so many portfolios. It'd be an unmitigated disaster.
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Reik posted:Can't wait for the 2020 primaries where I get to be called both a sexist and racist for preferring Bernie's platform over Kamala's. lol Bernie isn't running in 2020
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the black husserl posted:Yeah, I'm really not talking about a default. I'm talking about a de facto permanent shutdown. A "de facto permanent shutdown" would mean the literal end of the United States as a nation. Without the military maintaining a monopoly on violence - a political science term - there would be an immense power vacuum. Americans would need another way to protect themselves from foreign intrusion, and so would be forced to make their own militaries. This would likely be spearheaded by state governments, considering their strong organization and the large amount of faith Americans already put into them. And without the federal government, there would be nothing to prevent this clearly unconstitutional move. I know it sounds ridiculous, but this sort of thing is very well studied and occurs in a very predictable manner.
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FizFashizzle posted:wtf cnn is against vilerat and cefte now?!?!?! Internet Free Speech, aka people's believe in their sworn right to act like a complete shithead and drag everybody into their vortex of shitposting
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They support mandatory busing They're so racist they've looped back around to being Civil-rights-era progressives
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Chilichimp posted:lol Bernie isn't running in 2020 Didn't you get the memo? 2020 will be a literal re-run of 2016, MOM and all.
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So Cory Booker is proposing a bill to legalize pot at the federal level
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Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, Sharia Police stone bus seats to death.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So Cory Booker is proposing a bill to legalize pot at the federal level He's just doing it so his pharmaceutical industry masters can profit from it.
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Trabisnikof posted:Didn't you get the memo? 2020 will be a literal re-run of 2016, MOM and all. Ole Chaffee will finally convince everyone that metric is the way to go 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So Cory Booker is proposing a bill to legalize pot at the federal level And this is how dems win national and local elections. Glad someone finally realized it.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So Cory Booker is proposing a bill to legalize pot at the federal level Gotta fix that national image for 2020. I hope the bill works. If it did and Trump was smart, he would begin mass pardons of POC in jail for marijuana. (he isn't and won't)
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Spacebump posted:Gotta fix that national image for 2020. I hope the bill works. Probably get more support if he sponsored a bill to make opioids non-prescription.
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JohnCompany posted:Not entirely true, and in a few important ways. Many products are still priced at T+X, T holdings are still central to so many portfolios. It'd be an unmitigated disaster. Sure, but my point is that it's not correct to say that the complete safety of US debt is an unchallenged assumption; S&P have been saying "it might not be safe" for years now.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He's just doing it so his pharmaceutical industry masters can profit from it. I for one welcome our new (old?) Pharma overlords I mean you're right but we should probably go ahead and make his campaign thread now
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Vahakyla posted:She is a well educated, charismatic person with a distinguished career, a clean past, and she is a progressive, and she is portrayed well in the literature about her and her career. She's the ideal USMC Officer, and broke barriers herself. On the other hand: Falstaff posted:Is she for single payer? Or better wages? She didn't say anything about that in the ad, just about defending Obamacare.
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Spacebump posted:Gotta fix that national image for 2020. He's actually already in the upper echelons of popularity for Senators and National Politicians (Bernie is still the most popular Senator nationwide). quote:National Registered Voters (1/6/2017 - 1/9/2017)
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I for one welcome our new (old?) Pharma overlords Bluuuhhh, I hope that shiny-headed s.o.b. crashes and burns early because his transparent desperation for the office is irritating enough already
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namaste faggots posted:What will happen if Trump refuses to sign the new Russia Sanctions Bill? It becomes law in 10 days automatically
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namaste faggots posted:What will happen if Trump refuses to sign the new Russia Sanctions Bill?
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Rep Trent Franks just called on Mueller to resign. So, how long till the "calls for this start growing"?
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