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That was the worst thing about the episode. Casterly Rock and Highgarden but especially Casterly looked lame as gently caress.
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kater posted:That was the worst thing about the episode. Casterly Rock and Highgarden but especially Casterly looked lame as gently caress. It's the "can't be bothered to design anything" season. All the money goes into paying the main cast and CGI dragons.
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Aug 1, 2017 10:38
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Senor Tron posted:How did the free folk north of the wall survive previous winters? The way I always read it was that there was some sort of normal yearly seasonal variation (otherwise what does it mean when you say someone is 9 years old), but there is quite some wiggle room on a longer time scale, much like Europe suffered from a small ice age during the Middle ages. And knowing GRRM the small ice age is probably what inspired this part of A song and ice and fire to begin with.
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Aug 1, 2017 12:31
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Years are measured using astronomical cycles, the changing of the seasons is measured in the story by the length of the days, these are not linked in the grrm verse as the seasons are magical.
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Aug 1, 2017 12:43
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kater posted:Sam is currently copying books and Jorah is gonna take him to Dany... The only good post from the last 10 pages of this thread. kater posted:That was the worst thing about the episode. Casterly Rock and Highgarden but especially Casterly looked lame as gently caress. Casterly Rock was the most  castle I've seen on film for ages. Just a flat wall on a flat field, so you can just run up to it with ladders. No overhang? No defensive trench/moat?Also, would it have killed Grey Worm to do the sneak attack to open the gate at night, before wasting hundreds of lives storming the walls. You know, like he LITERALLY DID BEFORE THAT ONE TIME WITH JORAH AND DAARIO. Parkingtigers fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 13:20
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Parkingtigers posted:Also, would it have killed Grey Worm to do the sneak attack to open the gate at night, before wasting hundreds of lives storming the walls. You know, like he LITERALLY DID BEFORE THAT ONE TIME WITH JORAH AND DAARIO. That's one part that makes sense. Sneaking into a castle is all good and fine, but once inside a bunch of obvious foreigners will stand out unless the defenders are distracted. Even if they got to a gate, opening one won't do much unless you have a bunch of dudes right outside it waiting to get in.
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Aug 1, 2017 13:56
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This season is "remember what happened in those other seasons?" The Season. Like they have to remind people of the payoffs coming in the season after this.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:01
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I couldn't tell if the attack scaling the walls etc actually happened, or if that was just Tyrian explaining what would happen if they tried it, demonstrated for the viewer.
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Aug 1, 2017 14:03
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Red Oktober posted:I couldn't tell if the attack scaling the walls etc actually happened, or if that was just Tyrian explaining what would happen if they tried it, demonstrated for the viewer. It was the latter. Thought it was pretty obvious since they lose in that scenario and he's like "ORRRRR"
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Aug 1, 2017 14:14
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I had to watch the Thronecast after the episode and man the people on there were seriously reaching to give a reason that Cersei had gone from useless and scared to some sort of tactical genius in only one season. Although the guy who plays Hodor did basically say it's not written as well as it was!
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Aug 1, 2017 15:02
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esperterra posted:Is it just me, or is Master of Cisterns & Sewers or w/e a way shittier and more insulting/degrading job than trusting Tyrion to design a fully functioning sewer system? yeah well his father hated his son who is both a: a dwarf, and b, killed his mother during childbirth. So give him the poo poo jobs
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Aug 1, 2017 15:18
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Taear posted:I had to watch the Thronecast after the episode and man the people on there were seriously reaching to give a reason that Cersei had gone from useless and scared to some sort of tactical genius in only one season. She blew up part of the city and killed hundreds (thousands?) of people and basically nobody has even said anything about it since. Seems like a huge event that could have been explored in depth to show how her character might be changed by it, but they're ending the show so that's not gonna happen. Character development is now to be assumed to have happened offscreen, and the only reason it happens is to get us to the next plot point.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:18
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cersei has always been very good at securing tactical victories. the problem is that she never thinks about long-term consequences. see: imprisoning ned and reviving the faith militsnt i see no reason to think why her alliance with euron should be any different.
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Cimber posted:yeah well his father hated his son who is both a: a dwarf, and b, killed his mother during childbirth. So give him the poo poo jobs I don't think you read my post properly.
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Aug 1, 2017 16:42
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drunken officeparty posted:When does Gendry show up In the season finale, with massive arms, didn't you read my fanfic? WampaLord posted:FADE UP ON WATER OUTSIDE KING'S LANDING
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Aug 1, 2017 17:21
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Parkingtigers posted:Casterly Rock was the most Winterfell was like that as well. They go on and on about it being some impregnable fortress and Ramsay is super confident that Jon doesn't have an army that can possibly storm it.  No moat. Wooden gate. 30 foot walls. Ok.
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drunken officeparty posted:When does Gendry show up ep5, hanging out where he's subject to a death sentence if he's discovered
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Aug 1, 2017 17:44
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well in the book Cersei's main problem was that her narcissism led her to surround herself with complete incompetents (while at the same time she got mad that these incompetents were completely unable to do anything). Right now she has Jaime, Euron, and Randall Tarly (plus whatever Reach bannermen aren't defecting).
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Aug 1, 2017 17:59
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Mullitt posted:She blew up part of the city and killed hundreds (thousands?) of people and basically nobody has even said anything about it since. Seems like a huge event that could have been explored in depth to show how her character might be changed by it, but they're ending the show so that's not gonna happen. Yeah. I liked the atmosphere during the coronation scene in the S6 finale. I thought it gave off the vibe that Cersei's authority was really dubious and nobody trusted or supported her except Qyburn and Zombie Gregor. Seemed like the start of an interesting dynamic. After reading the last ep spoilers where Cersei agrees to send help north but secretly wants the white walkers to kill or weaken everyone else, a part of me thinks that Jon & co. will defeat the white walkers, an existential threat to humanity, and then go back to playing more dumb throne games against Cersei, who turns out to be the show's ultimate villain.
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Cornflakes posted:Yeah. I liked the atmosphere during the coronation scene in the S6 finale. I thought it gave off the vibe that Cersei's authority was really dubious and nobody trusted or supported her except Qyburn and Zombie Gregor. Seemed like the start of an interesting dynamic. The White Walkers defeated. Jon Snow limps through the ruins of Kings Landing, dragging Longclaw by his side, now too heavy to wield, carving a trail through the scorched earth. He passes between the burnt out buildings, rock walls melted by dragon fire, determined to finish what he has begun. From atop the Red Keep, Cersei yells, "Make my Robert Strong GROOOWWWWWW!!!" 
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Aug 1, 2017 18:12
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There's three main plots in the show which have been there since the first episode: the Others' coming attack, the Stark vs Lannister feud, and the plans of the Targaryen pretenders to return to absolute power. I'd be very surprised if they wrap up any of those plots entirely before the last episode: they ARE the show and everything else has spun off those three plot arcs and is now being pruned back to focus again on those three plot arcs. Just because this season ends with them sending a joint army north doesn't mean that it's gonna go beat the army of the dead immediately. In fact I think it's entirely likely they will lose at first, or at least fail to win a comprehensive victory right away. Yeah, the show does play up the Lannister vs Stark plotline over the other two (hence the change in title) but you have to assume the showrunners would be bat poo poo crazy to miss the chance for a big all-out fantasy battle in the finale.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:19
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Personally the stakes could not be any lower for me in terms of the big fantasy battle being good/bad/anything at all. Have nearly zero emotional interest in the others being defeated and don't really care who dies fighting on the living side. If they actually do something interesting it will be cool but fantasy media tends to have a big problem with samey endings, even stuff not limited by live action/cgi budgets, plenty of fantasy literature and even video games where they can literally do anything they want and it always ends up being the same poo poo.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:58
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Honestly having the Others get no-sold and the ultimate, series-ending threat be Lannister treachery and opportunism would at least be a little different than what we're expecting.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:04
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it won't be the same poo poo because cersei and euron are going to rule forever
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Aug 1, 2017 19:05
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It would be an amusing ending in the same way as it would be amusing if aliens showed up in a space battleship and nuked Westeros and paved it over for a landing strip.
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skasion posted:It would be an amusing ending in the same way as it would be amusing if aliens showed up in a space battleship and nuked Westeros and paved it over for a landing strip. And Littlefinger gets to run the airport.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:well in the book Cersei's main problem was that her narcissism led her to surround herself with complete incompetents (while at the same time she got mad that these incompetents were completely unable to do anything). Right now she has Jaime, Euron, and Randall Tarly (plus whatever Reach bannermen aren't defecting). Yea. I get why they can't use the Kettleblacks and why the Kingsguard barely even matter - I doubt most show watchers know what they even are - but it seriously harms her character.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:20
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So what's the hot take about the new leaked scripts? The E4 one seems convincing, I mean, it's a lot of effort to write something so completely mundane if it's just a fake - http://imgur.com/a/oOc8t
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drunken officeparty posted:When does Gendry show up In either the next episode or the episode after when Davos uses his smuggling skills to get Tyrion and himself into Kings Landing for a secret meeting with Jaime. He stumbles on him working as a blacksmith. He's made himself a big rear end warhammer which he uses to brain a couple of guards that catch them.
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This show has become so loving stupid. The fat man was good after all, I guess. Huh.
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Funky See Funky Do posted:In either the next episode or the episode after when Davos uses his smuggling skills to get Tyrion and himself into Kings Landing for a secret meeting with Jaime. He stumbles on him working as a blacksmith. He's made himself a big rear end warhammer which he uses to brain a couple of guards that catch them. I love how Gendry just rowed himself right back to KL to do exactly what he was doing before, and got away with it because Joffrey had the attention span of a gnat and probably forgot about the whole "kill all of Robert's bastards" plan five minutes after ordering it.
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Sydin posted:I love how Gendry just rowed himself right back to KL to do exactly what he was doing before, and got away with it because Joffrey had the attention span of a gnat and probably forgot about the whole "kill all of Robert's bastards" plan five minutes after ordering it. IT'S THE LAST PLACE THEY'D LOOK!
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I still can't get over what the night king pulls off to get south of the wall it's all so loving perfectly amazing Jon ruined everything. everything. he's the worst and I'll be glad when he dies again (Ramsay should've killed him the second time )
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emanresu tnuocca posted:So what's the hot take about the new leaked scripts? Covers are pulled off wagons to reveal half a dozen more ballistas. Dany throw Drogon into evasive maneuvers. I think they're all 100% accurate.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:45
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Yeah as  as the Night King flying a zombie dragon sounds, it does make one wonder what the hell his plan was without somehow knowing a dragon would fall into his lap. I've not read the books but from what I understand The Wall is in some way magical which keeps the Walkers out and also prevents them from doing obvious poo poo like digging under/sailing around it. So I guess the plan prior to getting the dragon was to just march up to the wall and glare menacingly while Edd made silly faces at him from the lookout?
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I can see that script being right, but ffs the formatting. Has the person who typed this up ever seen a script before? Imagine being an actor and having to do extra work to figure out which lines are yours. e: nvm just noticed it's an outline, but still drat
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Jamie charges at Dany and Drogon. Drogon opens his toothy maw and coils back. No flame, he wants some Lannister tartare.
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It's not a shooting script like they'd be giving to the actors during production, it's just an outline dated from a ways before production began. Presumably the kind of thing the writers room would be putting together in preparation for the production.
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I can't wait to see how useless the dragons will be in an actual battle. By all reason they should be the fantasy equivalent of nukes, but I'm guessing one of them gets sniped with the first shot of that ballista(there will only be that one because props are expensive ok), after which the mortally wounded dragon flies a thousand miles north to die right next to the Night King.
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