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dems: here's this real lovely status quo candidate who thinks everything's mostly great already *loses election* dems, looking in the mirror: we gotta get more status quoeyer
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Aug 1, 2017 21:19
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my other car is a status quo
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Aug 1, 2017 21:23
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25k in a country of 300 million though. :| It's a start.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:23
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pro-jobs, aka tax cuts for the rich??
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Aug 1, 2017 21:24
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They're singing the same songs And wearing the same old clothes Driving the same drive But always driving too slow
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Aug 1, 2017 21:26
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anime was right posted:pro-jobs, aka tax cuts for the rich?? FuriousxGeorge posted:Trickle down from tax cuts will work wonders this time! HIRE👏MORE👏TAX👏CREDITS👏
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Aug 1, 2017 21:26
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Main Paineframe posted:nah, most of them realize there are lessons to learn
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Aug 1, 2017 21:27
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lol so like not only are they the 80s republicans economically, but now they're like "well why not do social issues too"
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Aug 1, 2017 21:28
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deadgoon posted:wait are we trying to solve racism or solve FOR racism we subtract racists imo
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Aug 1, 2017 21:33
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So we gotta lose 2020 as well, another census, and probably 2024 before the Democrats are well and truly dead. That's fine with me, see y'all after the Great War.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:33
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how many people do yall think will stop voting democrat once marijuana is legalized nation wide
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Aug 1, 2017 21:36
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Relin posted:how many people do yall think will stop voting democrat once marijuana is legalized nation wide the gop is gonna destroy the democratic coalition when they run on lowering the weed tax
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Aug 1, 2017 21:37
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hahahaha i didnt think of that
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Aug 1, 2017 21:39
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the only thing holding the democrats together is social issues and with the GOP giving up on gay marriage that's one of the big unifying issues gone
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Aug 1, 2017 21:41
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Concerned Citizen posted:the gop is gonna destroy the democratic coalition when they run on lowering the weed tax This is going to be a future problem, yeah. The taxes are acceptable now because legal in any form is better than illegal, but they are making them too high. It's regressive and wrong.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:42
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Scent of Worf posted:nice. figures that when they finally decide to put economic issues at the forefront they decide to cater to the blue dogs xD Who's got that cartoon where the Dems are trying to decide whether to focus on (iirc) wwc or poc, then realize that an economy-focused message would appeal to both, and so decide to move right on the economy?
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Aug 1, 2017 21:42
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https://twitter.com/ironghazi/status/892422474226442242 yeah, and i have no faith that booker actually wants legal weed because 1) lol not with this fed legislature, and 2) fuckin block grantin' it up all over the place will surely mean that the states that don't have a reason not to make weed legal will turn down the chance to legally shake down brown people and college kids or decide that keeping a ready source of compulsory labor for privately-managed prisons is actually lame and bad. gently caress you, booker -- maybe propose that poo poo when dems retake control. if you incompetent bunch of assholes ever decide to stop loving around and decide to actually put forth an effort to win.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:42
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idk weed being taxed heavily as a direct funding mechanism for education seems fine by me and something dems should suppport since education will only be funded minimally or not at all otherwise
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Aug 1, 2017 21:44
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:2) fuckin block grantin' it up all over the place will surely mean that the states that don't have a reason not to make weed legal will turn down the chance to legally shake down brown people and college kids or decide that keeping a ready source of compulsory labor for privately-managed prisons is actually lame and bad. otoh im for anything that makes full balkanization more of a reality
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Aug 1, 2017 21:45
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ex post facho posted:idk weed being taxed heavily as a direct funding mechanism for education seems fine by me and something dems should suppport since education will only be funded minimally or not at all otherwise I dunno, trying to help poor students by screwing poor parents kind of feels like a centrist plan to me.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:46
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not really sure how a heavy tax on weed screws poor parents tbqh, since they're probably not buying anyway
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Aug 1, 2017 21:51
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FuriousxGeorge posted:25k in a country of 300 million though. :| It's a start. If that number triples again in another year, things will get interesting. Especially since unlike Dem or R, you gotta go out and join up and pay your dues to be in DSA, so a larger percent of those people are "active" than people who are just registered Republicans and Democrats. Also, worth pointing out, that the DSA is heavily focused on local elections. They are running/endorsing city councilpeeps, school board candidates, and the like. I don't think we'll be a huge factor in 2018, but by 2020 or 2024 (lol like we'll have elections by then)? Maybe.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:51
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ex post facho posted:not really sure how a heavy tax on weed screws poor parents tbqh, since they're probably not buying anyway Yeah, I like my weed and all, but go ahead and tax it for schools and narcan
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Aug 1, 2017 21:52
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ex post facho posted:not really sure how a heavy tax on weed screws poor parents tbqh, since they're probably not buying anyway Ummm, why do you think that? They buy plenty of booze. And, you know, already expensive black market pot. And every other drug. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 21:55 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 21:53
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also, #2020DemCandidates is a good hashtag to follow: https://twitter.com/pbaggab/status/892468060585644033 https://twitter.com/Bullneck/status/892469741880823809 https://twitter.com/Mobute/status/892469861191909377 https://twitter.com/Mobute/status/892470166491209728 https://twitter.com/sexyfacts4u/status/892480454301011969
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Aug 1, 2017 21:54
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like i get how high cigarette and alcohol taxes are regressive bc they are addictive af and are consumed in much greater proportion by poor folks, is the same true of weed even though it definitely does not have the same physically addictive properties? i honestly dont know i feel like weed is so commonly consumed across all demographics that it might suck that joe sixjoints can't buy an eighth for $20 and now needs to pay $30, but the net good of bolstering starving education system with weedbux outweighs most of those circumstances
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Aug 1, 2017 21:56
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regressive taxes are p bad even if the dollars go to good things that's my piping hot take ty
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Aug 1, 2017 21:59
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ex post facho posted:like i get how high cigarette and alcohol taxes are regressive bc they are addictive af and are consumed in much greater proportion by poor folks, is the same true of weed even though it definitely does not have the same physically addictive properties? i honestly dont know The alcohol and cig taxes are justifiably regressive because of the dangers of those products. You want a tax regime that encourages people to use pot over those drugs if they have to use something, not one that puts them on the same tier or even taxes pot more heavily.
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Aug 1, 2017 21:59
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i mean yeah it would be sweet if we could cut the defense budget 2% and create the greatest education system in hte world with the 18-20 bil, but this is america we're talking about here
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Aug 1, 2017 22:00
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Aug 1, 2017 22:01
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"We can't do the right thing because of political realities. It will never, ever happen. So, have a lovely compromise that disproportionately burdens the poor." Like I said, centrism. 
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Aug 1, 2017 22:02
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i dont think the calvinist and anti-drug culture of america will ever allow pot to be seen as a better alternative to alcohol or cigarettes lol
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Aug 1, 2017 22:03
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ex post facho posted:i dont think the calvinist and anti-drug culture of america will ever allow pot to be seen as a better alternative to alcohol or cigarettes lol *looks at colorado* oh woorrrd
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Aug 1, 2017 22:04
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Jesus you don't event need to do much digging to find Harris is a repulsive piece of poo poo. http://www.colorlines.com/articles/california-parents-could-get-jail-time-if-kids-miss-school quote:The initiative was pushed by California attorney general hopeful Kamala Harris, a rising star in the Democratic Party who "Today" show host Matt Lauer dubbed "the female Obama." Harris has smartly tied crime rates with dropout rates; the correlation between kids' educational achievement and the rate of their criminal convictions is direct. And yet the solutions are alarmingly punitive. Yeah nothing helps troubled kids like throwing their parents in jail.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:05
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the right thing in this scenario being appropriately funding the institutions that are the underpinning of civil society, i agree, but democrats as well as republicans stand in the way of that
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Aug 1, 2017 22:06
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Agean90 posted:*looks at colorado* oh woorrrd yo why do you think weed is taxed at 25% flat on sale price here and alcohol based on volume
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Aug 1, 2017 22:07
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Iron Twinkie posted:Yeah nothing helps troubled kids like throwing their parents in jail. But wait'll you see how much money we can get out of them once they're in there
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Aug 1, 2017 22:07
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Iron Twinkie posted:Jesus you don't event need to do much digging to find Harris is a repulsive piece of poo poo. 2000 dollars is a fuckin fortune are you kidding me
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Aug 1, 2017 22:08
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ex post facho posted:yo why do you think weed is taxed at 25% here and not 8% like alcohol $$$ and alcohol industry having a lobbying apparatus?
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