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Fleta Mcgurn: Oct 5, 2003; Porpoise noise continues.

Grand Fromage posted:

Chinese food.

YEAH BUT

# ? Aug 1, 2017 18:34

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 19:45

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

...also known as the Old Deluder Satan Law....

source of variance is deffo less forced public schooling and more attitudes towards schooling
protestants: lolyes
confucians: lolyes
atheist ex-protestants: lolyes
ex-confucians who were atheist all along but are even more atheist now: lolyes
catholics: eh

# ? Aug 1, 2017 18:35

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

I was walking home and saw a guy pissing in the middle of the sidewalk along a busy road. It was like 1030pm. He was near a bus stop with people standing there, and I was the only one staring at this dude. He had his pecker poking through his jorts, with the free hand using his phone. He was pissing in a puddle that was definitely splashing his legs and shoes. I stopped to watch and he made eye contact with me for a moment, and then went back to looking at his phone.

Earlier in the evening I saw another guy hands-free peeing in a urinal. He was doing a similar trick, just air humping the urinal while holding his phone with both hands to play a game. He was probably in his mid-twenties.

Tonight I caused someone to lose a lot of face. It all started at dinner in a restaurant, listening to a girl complain to me about her Mainland culture problems.

One was her gay friend (a guy) was being forced to marry this girl that knew he was gay, and she has fallen into a deep depression and can't sleep and complains about heavy pain in her chest from anxiety about marrying a a gay guy. Their marriage is a a couple months away (in October during the holiday, like everyone else before Spring Festival). Both their families are having none of their complaints, so they dutifully comply, and the girl's mother is doubling down on pressuring her to suck it up because she is too old to find her own husband now (like 29, LOL).
I said there's probably a 100% chance this girl is going to kill herself, and everyone that goes through with arranging, forcing, and doing this marriage is at fault, but wonderful Mainland culture will just point fingers at the gay guy or the girl. My friend tried to say there was nothing they could do to prevent this marriage, and I cut her off and said these people are all retarded and I can't listen to this bullshit story anymore. She tried to tell me about another gay friend (a girl) that had passed away, and how she asked the gay guy if that girl was lucky, and he said "yes, she didn't have to marry a man she doesn't like," and I LOL'd at how absurd all it was. I said the dumb fucks could just get a job in another city far far away for a couple years until the parents give up, but she said that was impossible. "They must get married, it's Chinese culture!" Papa needs his retirement, so better make other people miserable so he can sit at home to watch TV in his frail old age of 55.

Then we were walking afterwards and she was telling me all these other ridiculous stories about dumb poo poo that "can't be helped," and got to her story that her hated younger brother wants to visit Shenzhen for a few days. She said he's a little monster and has been recently pretending to be family angel to cheat money out of their dad, and he wants to stay in her house while he comes to see the city. She was upset because she doesn't want to see him and doesn't want him to stay in her house. I asked why she couldn't just say no, and she said he is family and her mother will call her to complain. Instead of having to stay with the dork for a few days (he's like 17), she's just buying train tickets to go to another city with a friend and tele-commuting to her job. She said she laid down a list of rules for him to follow while using her house as a free hotel, and she is sure he will follow it because no why. A teen kid staying alone for like 4 days, with friends in the city... yeah, ok.

She kept talking about all this kind of cultural stuff and her friend and family issues, and it seriously grating on me about how how stupid all of it was. I stopped on the sidewalk and said "You know... making friends sometimes is a really bad idea. All their problems become all my problems, and sometimes that's way too much to handle for my own peace of mind. I don't want to get married again and deal with stupid families and tons of mental baggage, especially in China and Chinese culture, and right now I definitely can't handle the same out of a friend."
She said "Then why would you want to get into any relationship? And it's not just China! Why talk about China!?" I told her I have no intention of ever getting into a relationship, maybe ever again, and China is on my list of bad values and bad culture. She said China is not bad, I know nothing about China (after listening to way too many complaints about her lovely friends and lovely life).

I lied and said "I have a stomachache," and she told me I should go home, and I said "I am," and walked away. We were actually walking back to her place to finish evening, and at that moment I was so "over it" that I had to leave.

Haier fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Aug 1, 2017

# ? Aug 1, 2017 18:38

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

Grand Fromage posted:

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/business/article/2104149/vietnams-tale-two-metros-one-built-japanese-and-other-chinese

Hmm I wonder if poor little china is just getting a bad rap?

# ? Aug 1, 2017 18:41

Steakandchips: Apr 30, 2009

Haier, you did the right thing, I can't ever listen to those stupid complaints.

Also, did not know you were married once.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:08

Ichabod Tane: Oct 30, 2005; A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

He never got divorced. His wife is China.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:19

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

It's the worst thing listening to people's problems when they refuse to listen to any advice or other perspectives and get super defensive about them. It's like E/N goon-in-well situations.

Had a korean friend, she was the youngest daughter in a big family. She has a family of her own and a business that she runs all by her self. Her older brothers all live in Korea and are quite well off after getting most of the family money (she got nothing of course) when their dad died. Her mother had to go to the hospital for some procedure that would see her there for about a week. Her brothers demanded she fly to Korea to keep her mom company at the hospital for the week. And she did, because she "had to" because "it's korean culture" yet after like 30 years in Canada she was assimilated enough to be absolutely enraged at the unfairness and illogic of the entire situation. So she had to close her business for a week and offload her kids on her ex for a week, fly around the world, to just sort of generally be around to chat with her mom while she recovers at a hospital for a non life threatening condition. All while her older brothers, one was already retired early and lived like 30 min from the hospital, only visited once because they were too busy doing whatever they do.

Just don't go, sever. Your mom already has no respect for you and you had a terrible time growing up and has made it clear you aren't in the will, oldest richest brother gets everything. It's like some family loyalty chip implanted in their brains they can't turn off.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:27

angel opportunity: Sep 7, 2004; Total Eclipse of the Heart

Fast forward to a recent encounter. I was standing in line to pay at cashier's and saw her greet a customer,
"Long time no see!"
"You speak Chinese," I told her.
"No, I don't," she denied.
Since I was the only customer there now, I informed her. That is a Chinese structured English phrase, replacing "It's been a long time that I haven't seen you." You can easily see why four words have taken preference over these 10 words.
Naturally, you refuse to see my assertion that, generally, English takes up at least 30% more time & space than Chinese. So, what?
What, 21C. Chinese conveys messages at least 30% faster than English. In other words, for example, to say an English message taking three seconds, the same Chinese message takes under two seconds.
On the printed page, similarly, one full page English translates to under two third in Chinese. By extension, an English book translates into Chinese slim ⅔.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:35

Steakandchips: Apr 30, 2009

"Long time no see", I have heard this many times, by many people who do not speak any Chinese/Mandarin. It isn't that uncommon a phrase, particularly in Asia or Europe.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:42

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Now i'm looking up the origin of "long time no see" and it dates back to the turn of the century and is thought to most likely come from native-american pidgin english or an imitation of that, or the same but from chinese workers.

"The earliest appearance of the phrase "long time no see" in print recorded in Oxford English Dictionary dates to 1901, found in W. F. Drannan's Thirty-One Years on the Plains and in the Mountains, in which a Native American man is recorded as greeting the narrator by saying, "Good morning. Long time no see you."
"Alternatively, it may have been coined by native speakers in imitation of Native American pidgin (as in the pidgin used in cinematic portrayals, as in the language spoken by the character Tonto in the 1930s)."

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:47

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Steakandchips posted:

"Long time no see", I have heard this many times, by many people who do not speak any Chinese/Mandarin. It isn't that uncommon a phrase, particularly in Asia or Europe.

woosh

Baronjutter posted:

Now i'm looking up the origin of "long time no see" and it dates back to the turn of the century and is thought to most likely come from native-american pidgin english or an imitation of that, or the same but from chinese workers.

"The earliest appearance of the phrase "long time no see" in print recorded in Oxford English Dictionary dates to 1901, found in W. F. Drannan's Thirty-One Years on the Plains and in the Mountains, in which a Native American man is recorded as greeting the narrator by saying, "Good morning. Long time no see you."
"Alternatively, it may have been coined by native speakers in imitation of Native American pidgin (as in the pidgin used in cinematic portrayals, as in the language spoken by the character Tonto in the 1930s)."

this proves that america was colonized by chinese people

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:51

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

did you know hangul is the most efficient alphabet for twitter???

# ? Aug 1, 2017 19:53

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Chinese takes up less space, in the future english will be abandoned for programming and all computers will be programmed in traditional chinese as its more efficient. Learn now or be locked out of future tech jobs.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 20:05

angel opportunity: Sep 7, 2004; Total Eclipse of the Heart

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/892471658627428356

# ? Aug 1, 2017 20:50

big time bisexual: Oct 16, 2002; Cool Party

Haier posted:

I was walking home and saw a guy pissing in the middle of the sidewalk along a busy road. It was like 1030pm. He was near a bus stop with people standing there, and I was the only one staring at this dude. He had his pecker poking through his jorts, with the free hand using his phone. He was pissing in a puddle that was definitely splashing his legs and shoes. I stopped to watch and he made eye contact with me for a moment, and then went back to looking at his phone.

Earlier in the evening I saw another guy hands-free peeing in a urinal. He was doing a similar trick, just air humping the urinal while holding his phone with both hands to play a game. He was probably in his mid-twenties.

https://zippy.gfycat.com/GenerousConsciousIaerismetalmark.webm

:piss:

# ? Aug 1, 2017 20:57

angel opportunity: Sep 7, 2004; Total Eclipse of the Heart

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/892479740371709953

# ? Aug 1, 2017 21:21

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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angel opportunity posted:

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/892479740371709953

meanwhile

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/australia-chinese-students.html

quote:

SYDNEY, Australia � Australians are increasingly concerned about China�s growing influence in the country. Chinese money is being funneled to politicians. Beijing-run media outlets buy ads in Australian newspapers to promote the Communist Party view on local and regional issues. Chinese companies are buying Australian farms and natural resources.

The push extends to Australia�s universities. Chinese agents are said to monitor Chinese students and report on those who fail to toe the Communist Party line. And in another troubling trend, many of the 150,000 visiting Chinese students are importing a pro-Beijing approach to the classroom that is stifling debate and openness.

In 2008-9 I taught international relations to undergraduates at a Chinese university in Beijing, giving me a window into Chinese students� attitudes and behavior. I was struck by the tendency for students to align themselves with the government view.

I was not given any guidance or warnings about the topics I could cover in the classroom. But throughout the year, I was offered hints that my approach to teaching was inappropriate. Those warnings came not only from the administration but from the students themselves.

On several occasions, students suggested I use a different style of teaching. They found critical analysis and picking apart expert opinion uncomfortable. This was particularly true for readings and class discussions that could be construed as critical of China.

Most students, for example, would reject anything that suggested China had not always been peaceful. The majority of students would react angrily to any reading material implying that Japan was not an inherently aggressive and expansionist country.

Some students told me in private that they were afraid to express their views in class. They feared that their peers would report on them and that they would receive a black mark on their record. The minority of students who showed interest in open discussion were shut down by classmates who parroted Beijing�s talking points.

In one session, students gave a presentation that, unsurprisingly, painted the Japanese in a negative light. One of their classmates wondered aloud whether Chinese people still needed to hate Japan. Another suggested that China also publishes textbooks with self-serving interpretations of history, as Japan does. Outrage erupted. One student furiously accused the two of �not loving China enough.�

At my midyear review, I was told firmly by my department leadership that my approach of �trying to teach through rumor and hearsay� was unsuitable. When I refused to change my methods, I was told that I would not receive my bonus and that my contract would not be renewed.

Chinese students are taking this approach into the Australian classroom.

A recent ABC-Fairfax report gave the example of Lupin Lu, head of the Chinese Students and Scholars Association chapter at the University of Canberra. Ms. Lu said she would not hesitate to inform officials at the Chinese Embassy if she heard of Chinese students organizing, for example, protests against Beijing.

Even here in Australia, Chinese students have said they fear speaking up in class because they worry their compatriots will report them to embassy authorities. Some students ask to be placed in tutorial groups without other Chinese citizens so they can speak openly.

Sally Sargeson, an associate professor at the Australian National University, said to Forbes magazine that every Chinese student she asked about this problem �said they know they are being monitored and adjust their speech so they will not get into trouble.�

When Chinese students self-censor or monitor and report on their peers, it is not necessarily because the Chinese state is bearing down on them. Rather, many Chinese students believe that speaking out against the officially approved view, on any topic, is inappropriate. The anthropologist Erika Evasdottir describes this as �self-directed control.� Monitoring and reporting on peers who diverge from the party line is seen as the right thing to do.

Universities have not adequately addressed this threat to debate and openness. Officials may be reluctant to take action because overseas students bring a lot of money to underfunded Australian universities.

Because many Chinese students have internalized the need to align with official views, maintaining Australia�s standards for free and open debate will remain a daunting challenge. Australian universities could start by facing up to the problem.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 21:22

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

please post in d&d lol

# ? Aug 1, 2017 22:07

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Steakandchips posted:

In Britain you can have your street number changed to be a word, e.g. Rose Cottage instead of 21 Main Street. There is a process involved, paperwork and approvals

Just changing the sign outside your house would be illegal and stupid.

Did the 34 house in China do it because 98 is more lucky than 34 or some equally poo poo reason?

Yes they did

# ? Aug 1, 2017 22:12

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Gargamel Gibson posted:

A personal lucky number is dumb but harmless. Cultural (un)lucky numbers are really dumb and make pointless things more annoying.

You should see china some time lol

# ? Aug 1, 2017 22:12

Sten Freak: Sep 10, 2008; Despite all of these shortcomings, the Sten still has a long track record of shooting people right in the face.; College Slice

angel opportunity posted:

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/892479740371709953

Harsh, but fair.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 22:27

Kharnifex: Sep 11, 2001; The Banter is better in AusGBS

There was a pro china rally in Sydney city lately, it was upsetting to see the cops remove the tibetans protesting it.

# ? Aug 1, 2017 23:34

Mechafunkzilla: Sep 11, 2006; If you want a vision of the future...

I agree, kill all Chinese Nazis

# ? Aug 1, 2017 23:37

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

angel opportunity posted:

Fast forward to a recent encounter. I was standing in line to pay at cashier's and saw her greet a customer,
"Long time no see!"
"You speak Chinese," I told her.
"No, I don't," she denied.
Since I was the only customer there now, I informed her. That is a Chinese structured English phrase, replacing "It's been a long time that I haven't seen you." You can easily see why four words have taken preference over these 10 words.
Naturally, you refuse to see my assertion that, generally, English takes up at least 30% more time & space than Chinese. So, what?
What, 21C. Chinese conveys messages at least 30% faster than English. In other words, for example, to say an English message taking three seconds, the same Chinese message takes under two seconds.
On the printed page, similarly, one full page English translates to under two third in Chinese. By extension, an English book translates into Chinese slim ⅔.

This is so good.

# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:34

angel opportunity: Sep 7, 2004; Total Eclipse of the Heart

Stringent posted:

This is so good.

https://twitter.com/jow_yuzo

This is his twitter, if you search his name on FB you can see his longer stuff like the quoted one. It's pretty impenetrably bad for the most part

https://twitter.com/jow_yuzo/status/892448433121800192

# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:42

McGavin: Sep 18, 2012

angel opportunity posted:

https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/892479740371709953

Correct This Is The Way...
China Deserves It...

# ? Aug 2, 2017 00:45

Kharnifex: Sep 11, 2001; The Banter is better in AusGBS

McGavin posted:

Correct This Is The Way...
China Deserves It...

Get outta here India!

# ? Aug 2, 2017 01:24

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

Bitrate of human speech is 10 bps, almost without exception
The exception is private codes

# ? Aug 2, 2017 01:27

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

curufinor posted:

Bitrate of human speech is 10 bps, almost without exception
The exception is private codes

thanks for sharing

# ? Aug 2, 2017 02:36

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Grand Fromage posted:

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/business/article/2104149/vietnams-tale-two-metros-one-built-japanese-and-other-chinese

# ? Aug 2, 2017 03:56

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

hakimashou posted:

thanks for sharing

it's why spanish speaking folks talk so fast
the language is intensely regular and has a bunch of grammatical poo poo stuck onto words so you can understand even if you go through the grammatical poo poo quickly

# ? Aug 2, 2017 03:58

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Emoji's prove the future of digitical communication is not with a western "Alphabet" but with much more dense and expressive symbols, China is naturally ready for this and will be far ahead of other nations.

(I think I actually read an article along these lines a few years ago)

# ? Aug 2, 2017 04:00

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Baronjutter posted:

Emoji's prove the future of digitical communication is not with a western "Alphabet" but with much more dense and expressive symbols, China is naturally ready for this and will be far ahead of other nations.

(I think I actually read an article along these lines a few years ago)

:wink :eggplant :spray :spray :heart :wink

2030 pulitzer prize for fiction.txt

# ? Aug 2, 2017 04:10

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Baronjutter posted:

Emoji's prove the future of digitical communication is not with a western "Alphabet" but with much more dense and expressive symbols, China is naturally ready for this and will be far ahead of other nations.

(I think I actually read an article along these lines a few years ago)

# ? Aug 2, 2017 04:13

Flutieflakes017: Feb 16, 2012; only if you've been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest mountain

Long time reader, first-time poster on the Plun'Qing thread.

I'm taking some dude friends to Sichuan and we're working out way down to Hong Kong week after next. Looking for suggestions for things to do in Chengdu, Chongqing, Wuhan, and Macau.

Little about me: I speak Chinese and read it pretty well. I've lived in Hangzhou and a small city outside of Zhengzhou in Henan province. I've been to Hong Kong and Shenzhen several times but haven't made it to Sichuan. I'm a pretty experienced China traveler but haven't made it to Sichuan.

What are some goon favorites for Sichuan?

# ? Aug 2, 2017 04:36

Trammel: Dec 31, 2007; .

Flutieflakes017 posted:

Long time reader, first-time poster on the Plun'Qing thread.

I'm taking some dude friends to Sichuan and we're working out way down to Hong Kong week after next. Looking for suggestions for things to do in Chengdu, Chongqing, Wuhan, and Macau.

Obvious Chengdu stuff is Hug a Panda at the Panda Base and order a Sichuan HotPot.

# ? Aug 2, 2017 04:58

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Flutieflakes017 posted:

Long time reader, first-time poster on the Plun'Qing thread.

I'm taking some dude friends to Sichuan and we're working out way down to Hong Kong week after next. Looking for suggestions for things to do in Chengdu, Chongqing, Wuhan, and Macau.

Little about me: I speak Chinese and read it pretty well. I've lived in Hangzhou and a small city outside of Zhengzhou in Henan province. I've been to Hong Kong and Shenzhen several times but haven't made it to Sichuan. I'm a pretty experienced China traveler but haven't made it to Sichuan.

What are some goon favorites for Sichuan?

Do you like spicy?

# ? Aug 2, 2017 05:02

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

or maybe he likes sichuan peppercorn
those are the only two flavors you can have in sichuan, yes sirree

# ? Aug 2, 2017 05:04

Flutieflakes017: Feb 16, 2012; only if you've been in the deepest valley can you ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest mountain

Haier posted:

Do you like spicy?

I loving love spicy, that's why I'm going. 水煮鱼 is my number 1 priority.

Also kind of an honor to get a response from Haier himself (E: also, if we could get Rene Chang to respond that'd be great too). Alot of your stories hit pretty close to home.

# ? Aug 2, 2017 05:12

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Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Flutieflakes017 posted:

Long time reader, first-time poster on the Plun'Qing thread.

I'm taking some dude friends to Sichuan and we're working out way down to Hong Kong week after next. Looking for suggestions for things to do in Chengdu, Chongqing, Wuhan, and Macau.

Little about me: I speak Chinese and read it pretty well. I've lived in Hangzhou and a small city outside of Zhengzhou in Henan province. I've been to Hong Kong and Shenzhen several times but haven't made it to Sichuan. I'm a pretty experienced China traveler but haven't made it to Sichuan.

What are some goon favorites for Sichuan?

Eat all food. There's not really anything else to do in Chengdu. The big waterworks in Dujiangyan is cool and doubly so since it's one of the few genuinely ancient things still around.

# ? Aug 2, 2017 05:22

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