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Paladinus posted:She dated Clevin irl? 80% of men are Clevin, so it's likely
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SFP being quasi-autobiographical would explain a lot
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Jul 29, 2017 17:07
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rememberOxxidation posted:Reach Clevin through violence.
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Typical Pubbie posted:SFP being quasi-autobiographical would explain a lot She's going to find out Clevin's been a woman the whole time and decide that's fine.
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Jul 29, 2017 23:12
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Jul 30, 2017 02:43
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Nuns with Guns posted:80% of men are Clevin, so it's likely We're still working on an enhanced version of the Clevin virus to convert the other 20%.
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Jul 30, 2017 02:58
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let's go have a look at the comments sectio cripes
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Jul 30, 2017 23:11
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:let's go have a look at the comments sectio 
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Jul 30, 2017 23:20
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*stands up dramatically* i'm clevin
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Jul 30, 2017 23:26
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Wow.
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Jul 30, 2017 23:38
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Aug 1, 2017 06:32
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over-rated imo
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Aug 1, 2017 07:26
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Something's actually happening?
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Aug 1, 2017 09:12
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The eye. The mouth. The dog. The eye.
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Aug 1, 2017 09:13
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The clevin.
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Aug 1, 2017 09:28
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Maybe Clevin's power is giving people horrible visions.
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Aug 1, 2017 09:37
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I "love" the 2nd to last panel (not including the broken ones). Allison wrapped up in a blanket while Clevin puts his jacket on, arm around her, kiss on the forehead. The strongest person in the world, prone to violence and anger, consistently portrayed as the passive almost meek girlfriend whenever Clevin is around.
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Aug 1, 2017 09:37
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his name is clevin
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Aug 1, 2017 11:27
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Bold move for this comic to wait years before revealing its strong female protagonist, Dog Smoking Two Cigarettes At Once.
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Aug 1, 2017 12:16
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super sweet best pal posted:Something's actually happening? It might be! Mary is killing Patrick
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Aug 1, 2017 12:52
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I hope nothing bad happens to Clevin.
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I'm glad the Strong Female Protagonist finally has a man to take care of her. That's Clevin for ya, always saving the day ^_^
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Aug 1, 2017 18:08
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Turns out she's been stuck in a virtual reality nightmare for weeks now. She was supposed to realise it earlier when Clevin showed up, because no real human being could be that bland and pointless.
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Aug 1, 2017 18:13
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I think the past few pages of halting I Love Your's have been to set up Clevin's gruesome murder 
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Flesh Forge posted:I think the past few pages of halting I Love Your's have been to set up Clevin's gruesome murder Men in fridges would be a good turn on the usual. I'm disappointed, I got into this from the strong start that the OP talked up, and just haven't enjoyed any of it for a while. Is this a case of the author running out of story to tell, or what?
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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:Men in fridges would be a good turn on the usual. I'm disappointed, I got into this from the strong start that the OP talked up, and just haven't enjoyed any of it for a while. Is this a case of the author running out of story to tell, or what? I think they got ambitious with the rape chapter. It's a really difficult topic. They didn't have the whole chapter written ahead of time, though, so they compensated for the bigness of the ideas they were trying to grapple with by writing a bunch of pages. Without good structure, everything fell apart and became stupid and bad. They blocked out all criticism. Now every chapter will be more of a formless blob of ever more half-assed ideas.
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Wittgen posted:They didn't have the whole chapter written ahead of time Is this something they actually admitted to?
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Wittgen posted:Now every chapter will be more of a formless blob of ever more half-assed ideas. aka clevin
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Aug 1, 2017 22:45
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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:Men in fridges would be a good turn on the usual. I'm disappointed, I got into this from the strong start that the OP talked up, and just haven't enjoyed any of it for a while. Is this a case of the author running out of story to tell, or what? Other people have said this and I agree: their Big Move was the conversation between Allison and Daniel (Cleaver) after his defeat, and everything after that has been much looser and stinky
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Aug 1, 2017 23:47
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There's also the gender-flipped "hero has a psychotic break and accidentally kills/seriously injures their Clevin" angle to consider, here.
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Wittgen posted:I think they got ambitious with the rape chapter. It's a really difficult topic. They didn't have the whole chapter written ahead of time, though, so they compensated for the bigness of the ideas they were trying to grapple with by writing a bunch of pages. Without good structure, everything fell apart and became stupid and bad. They blocked out all criticism. Now every chapter will be more of a formless blob of ever more half-assed ideas. The rape chapter was turbo-garbage my man. "Rape is bad, but murder is good! As is torture." is a really hosed up moral to dance around and celebrate. Especially when chapters later your character is still jerking off the unhinged torture murderer and no one felt bad about the maybe innocent people that died.
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Aug 2, 2017 01:01
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Everyone is at least 80% not innocent. It's statistics.
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Aug 2, 2017 01:09
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Aug 2, 2017 01:34
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wb avs. Try not to be too blatantly avs, it would be cool to keep you around for a while.
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Nuebot posted:The rape chapter was turbo-garbage my man. "Rape is bad, but murder is good! As is torture." is a really hosed up moral to dance around and celebrate. Especially when chapters later your character is still jerking off the unhinged torture murderer and no one felt bad about the maybe innocent people that died. I don't disagree at all. I just think that wasn't their intention.They weren't trying to say rape is bad but torture and murder are good. They ended up saying that because they weren't trying to say anything at all. They had no thesis statement. If super powers were real, a rape victim/child soldier going on a vigilante murder spree is plausible. And that vigilante believing they are in the right also makes sense. Unfortunately, they forgot the part where that character's point of view should be part of a larger story that is saying something less than morally reprehensible about the world. TypicalPubbie, they didn't admit to it as far as I know. But the chapter took a couple of years to make. Also, a lot of the chapter is a series of disconnected conversations that don't really lead anywhere.
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So far the most consistent thesis seems to be 'having a consistent worldview is hard and most people get by trying to do what they consider right in a situation without considering broader implications' Thing is, taking a step back seems to show 'this is probably not a good thing.' I'm pretty done with webcomics, but I hope the author finds a story they actually want to tell coherently. More and more, it feels like serialization is a severe weakness in fiction, rather than a strength, because it tears down having a consistent theme.
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Wittgen posted:I don't disagree at all. I just think that wasn't their intention.They weren't trying to say rape is bad but torture and murder are good. They ended up saying that because they weren't trying to say anything at all. They had no thesis statement. This sounds plausible if not for the fact that in the aftermath of the Murderin' Mary arc the writer had every major supporting character come out in favor of what Mary did. The only dissenting viewpoints came from rapists or suspected rapists who were all summarily murdered. It's not completely coherent but there's definitely a moral position being pushed here...
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Strong Female Protagonist: It's not completely coherent
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Typical Pubbie posted:This sounds plausible if not for the fact that in the aftermath of the Murderin' Mary arc the writer had every major supporting character come out in favor of what Mary did. The only dissenting viewpoints came from rapists or suspected rapists who were all summarily murdered. It's not completely coherent but there's definitely a moral position being pushed here... This is still a bizarre reading of the comic. Alison's own voice is a dissenting one - she ultimately rejects Mary's way of doing things by trying to stop her. The whole arc ends with Alison trying to bring her friend to justice (she tells the authorities about her, chases her down, and then tries to convince her to turn herself in - she was outsmarted but that's not because she didn't try.) Then there's the dumb Uber-for-rape-victims thing, which closes off the chapter and is so obviously the story's way to give Alison a third option between ignoring the problem of rape culture and Mary's ultraviolent response. Reinventing 911 is meant to be a moment of cleverness in which Alison cuts the gordian knot. The arc is dumb and incompetent but it's not trying to say what you're suggesting here.
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We've been all over this but I still feel like Allison treats Mary's tortures and killings really softly (both in terms of her words and her actions) and every conversation she has on the topic up to the dam basically justifies Mary, the only objector is (mentioned earlier) a bad raper man and is murdered.
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