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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

Jesus Christ, you people always forget about the Pacific Theater. Sure the Soviets get the lion's share of the credit for beating the Nazis, but it's inarguable that America beat Japan.

You sure beat the life out of those 300k civilians

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Tesseraction posted:

You sure beat the life out of those 300k civilians
The japanese absolutely ravaged China and nuking their cities was historically just as well as a convenient way to save American lives.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
ps make the tweets trump

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tesseraction posted:

You sure beat the life out of those 300k civilians

I'm assuming you're trying to make some snide comment about the nuclear bombs, but that's dumb and wrong. The Imperial Navy was already hosed before the bombs dropped, Japanese defeat was already inevitable at that point

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Guy Goodbody posted:

The purpose of the Gulf War was to get Iraq out of Kuwait, which we accomplished.

the president still held a blood-grudge that he never got to kill saddam though

Guy Goodbody posted:

Jesus Christ, you people always forget about the Pacific Theater. Sure the Soviets get the lion's share of the credit for beating the Nazis, but it's inarguable that America beat Japan. The purpose of the Gulf War was to get Iraq out of Kuwait, which we accomplished. And exactly, the Korean War is still on.

that's true but you guys still missed the lion's share of the actual war

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

very low energy morning from trump and trump thread, sad

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Guy Goodbody posted:

lol get hosed Russia

Did Russia win, or did Germany lose?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

jBrereton posted:

The japanese absolutely ravaged China and nuking their cities was historically just as well as a convenient way to save American lives.

the nukes are really impossible to justify

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Fun fact, roughly 20 million Russians died in WW2, compared to about 400,000 Americans. But I guess that's why we're the ones that won the war, and the Russians were just low energy. Sad!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

jBrereton posted:

The japanese absolutely ravaged China and nuking their cities was historically just as well as a convenient way to save American lives.

"Two wrongs make a right." --galactic brain man

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm assuming you're trying to make some snide comment about the nuclear bombs, but that's dumb and wrong. The Imperial Navy was already hosed before the bombs dropped, Japanese defeat was already inevitable at that point

Then why kill the civilians?

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm assuming you're trying to make some snide comment about the nuclear bombs, but that's dumb and wrong. The Imperial Navy was already hosed before the bombs dropped, Japanese defeat was already inevitable at that point

But hey you know we had to drop those bombs to start the forever war that we're literally still fighting today.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
I mean, didn't Russia start out with Molotov-Ribbentrop, and if Germany hadn't decided to backstab them, it would have stuck?

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Tesseraction posted:

"Two wrongs make a right." --galactic brain man

three rights make a left

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Yinlock posted:

the nukes are really impossible to justify

I mean not if you want to start a decades-long propaganda campaign that Communism Is Bad.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Tesseraction posted:

Then why kill the civilians?

tbf i don't think anyone was really aware of just how destructive nukes were going to be and what a massive game changer they were

i imagine the radio chatter after the bombs dropped were just endless repetitions of "holy gently caress"

was still a total rear end in a top hat move though

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


how soon till we reach the new Japanese talking point that Pearl Harbor was a false flag and America was the real aggressors in the war of western pacific aggression

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

safely sodomized posted:

who cares about dignity id gladly take an undignified rear end in a top hat from the left if he actually did good things. lbj was the least dignified motherfucker and he did good poo poo (domestically). if anything dignity is a handicap towards getting poo poo done.

I think a small amount of dignity would fix half of this poo poo.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

mormonpartyboat posted:

three rights make a left

the three-right wing of the democratic party

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tesseraction posted:

Then why kill the civilians?

Because it's war? For the same reason we killed more people in the bombing of Tokyo, or the British killed civilians in Dresden, or the Germans killed civilians in the Blitz

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


jBrereton posted:

nuking their cities was historically just as well as a convenient way to save American lives.

lol nope

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Yinlock posted:

tbf i don't think anyone was really aware of just how destructive nukes were going to be and what a massive game changer they were

ah yes i forgot that the trinity explosion was postwar propaganda

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Yinlock posted:

the president still held a blood-grudge that he never got to kill saddam though


that's true but you guys still missed the lion's share of the actual war

I think you'll find that being in the majority of the fighting isn't "winning" and that selling guns 'n ammo them jumping in at the last second to be be a part of the peace treaties is far better, which is why the U.S. is one of two winners of ww1.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/892713742319972352

thanks misogyny!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

Because it's war? For the same reason we killed more people in the bombing of Tokyo, or the British killed civilians in Dresden, or the Germans killed civilians in the Blitz

These were all bad!!

I mean, war is bad, but killing civilians is bad++

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

prefect posted:

I mean, didn't Russia start out with Molotov-Ribbentrop, and if Germany hadn't decided to backstab them, it would have stuck?

also nazi germany was funneling weapons to the ethiopians during the second italio-ethiopian war lol

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Ramadu posted:

how soon till we reach the new Japanese talking point that Pearl Harbor was a false flag and America was the real aggressors in the war of western pacific aggression

there's a small difference between "attacking a military installation for no reason like dicks" and "genocide"

Captain Internet
Apr 20, 2005

:love: HOTLANTA :love:
IS WHERE YOUR HEART IS
Day Crew making old rear end wars matter now? Guess what, the good guys won. Who were the good guys? lol whoever the gently caress you want you idiots.

The ussr sucked Hitler's dick so hard be died and then they made half his city really lovely and sad until the US used Reganomics saved Germany from a very bad wall. History is written by the winners, bing bong. So so simple.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

mormonpartyboat posted:

ah yes i forgot that the trinity explosion was postwar propaganda

oh right, that

sorry i just woke up

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Tesseraction posted:

These were all bad!!

I mean, war is bad, but killing civilians is bad++

lmao at dumb goons singling out the atom bombs like us firebombing Tokyo into a parking lot didn't kill more than both bombs combined.

and also like an invasion of the home islands wouldnt be a bloodbath unparreled in human history

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

The Nastier Nate posted:

Fun fact, roughly 20 million Russians died in WW2, compared to about 400,000 Americans. But I guess that's why we're the ones that won the war, and the Russians were just low energy. Sad!

It's complicated. Neither the Russians or the English would have survived without each other and American aid and intervention. Hitler really did come close to conquering the world as bat poo poo as it is to think about it.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
good morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omT6rgH94eI&t=7s

im the kitten, and this thread is the fawn

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Brother Friendship posted:

It's complicated. Neither the Russians or the English would have survived without each other and American aid and intervention. Hitler really did come close to conquering the world as bat poo poo as it is to think about it.

well the russians would probably have survived because they can survive anything

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Yinlock posted:

the most upsetting part is that they're also not wrong

Yep! Especially if they have an R next to their name (see also Kid Rock polling within a couple % of a three-time US senator :negative:)

Dems should run someone with a bunch of Rs in their name, or like R. as their middle initial, in an effort to get votes from confused Republicans.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

LegoMan posted:

Once I played Horizon like Dead Space (ie, chop off important bits) it became a lot easier.

that game stresses me out so i havent touched it in months

thought i had the dinobots all figured out and then i ran into one that had a giant mouth laser and launched two drones at me, wtf

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Mariana Horchata posted:

good morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omT6rgH94eI&t=7s

im the kitten, and this thread is the fawn

fawn's seen some poo poo

it must also have hoi4 and ~opinions~

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Yinlock posted:

there's a small difference between "attacking a military installation for no reason like dicks" and "genocide"

really more of a vaporization than genocide and maybe the idiots coulda surrendered instead of forcing our hand with the second bomb smh face culture is dumb and bad

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

C-Euro posted:

Yep! Especially if they have an R next to their name (see also Kid Rock polling within a couple % of a three-time US senator :negative:)

Dems should run someone with a bunch of Rs in their name, or like R. as their middle initial, in an effort to get votes from confused Republicans.

i still insist that the best move is to primary republicans and do another rebranding

why yes the republicans were always champions of the little people and love full socialism, unlike big business democrats

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Oh boy a "was nuking Japan justified?" discussion, this always goes well.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

mormonpartyboat posted:

fawn's seen some poo poo

it must also have hoi4 and ~opinions~

it has a twitter acct

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Ramadu posted:

really more of a vaporization than genocide and maybe the idiots coulda surrendered instead of forcing our hand with the second bomb smh face culture is dumb and bad

now the planned invasion of the home islands, now that would have been a genocide

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