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Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


taser rates posted:

Container is good at any player count 3-5, but Mercury games has been terrible in their campaign for the new version, with the unnecessarily larger ships and higher cost. Also it turns out that it's not an actual reprint since it comes with fewer containers than the original, which means a game tilted more towards short-term strategy if you're playing it 5p.

Dang. Still, friend backed it after I showed him the posts. (He likes this thread too.) the ships are nice and while unnecessary, will be nice to look at while a different friend tries to tank the economy game after game.

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GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Lorini posted:

You really need four. And you need a commitment to keep playing it, which is why I sold my copy. First time players will have to be handheld through the game unless you want the economy to tank because it's nearly impossible to figure out the game on the first play.

Yeah, I played one game of Container and its economy is so different that I couldn't really wrap my head around it. Unfortunately the person who taught and owned the game didn't like, give any heads up about it, so the game was like 3-4 (I forget) people flailing about just doing actions with one guy actually knowing what he's doing, which didn't really help ingratiate the experience to us.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Kashuno posted:

So today Stonemaier announced the Charterstone Recharge Pack, basically a pack of stickers and whatever else is necessary to play through Charterstone again in a box for $30. The board will be double-sided, meaning with one board you can play the campaign twice. It seems a little weird to me since he has been pretty adamant on the whole "it'll be a fun game to play on the completed board" thing too much it's interesting at least.
They actually announced it a while ago and it's basically a way to play through the campaign again without dropping full price on a second copy of the game.

Chill la Chill posted:

Paper money supremacy.
:frogout: It's all about coins or poker chips.

Chill la Chill posted:

Anyone have experience with the Containers game going on kickstarter right now? I wasn't really interested because I don't have the space for that giant thing but my friend is and I am very willing to play it if it's any good.
I made a PnP version of the game a while back, because the rules sounded cool. Game is realgood.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

GrandpaPants posted:

Yeah, I played one game of Container and its economy is so different that I couldn't really wrap my head around it. Unfortunately the person who taught and owned the game didn't like, give any heads up about it, so the game was like 3-4 (I forget) people flailing about just doing actions with one guy actually knowing what he's doing, which didn't really help ingratiate the experience to us.

Weird, I've played exactly twice with other people who have only played once or twice and we didn't see a ton of flailing around.

Some of us went nearly broke a couple of times, but we didn't crash the economy that badly and the games went pretty well. v:confused:v

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010
This is the best Container pnp https://boardgamegeek.com/image/707670/container

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
I still don't understand what makes people want to buy a board game based on how HUGE JUMBO GIGANTIC the resin ships are.

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love
I've heard a lot about it over the years and was interested in it but the price + shipping seems especially high in Canuckbucks.

Speaking of, did the Argent guys get their poo poo sorted out with that one or is still rough too?

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Mikey Purp posted:

I still don't understand what makes people want to buy a board game based on how HUGE JUMBO GIGANTIC the resin ships are.

I enjoy painting minis and you could say I have an interest in the subject matter. My friends and I are laughing on our chat right now about how first it was trains and now its boats.

jmzero
Jul 24, 2007

FulsomFrank posted:

I've heard a lot about it over the years and was interested in it but the price + shipping seems especially high in Canuckbucks.

Speaking of, did the Argent guys get their poo poo sorted out with that one or is still rough too?

Not sure if you noticed, but it suggests Canadians don't use the Kickstarter, and just pre-order from BoardGameBliss.

I'm on the fence. The gigantic ships seem weird; I feel like I'm paying for $30 worth of game and 7 pounds of detailed plastic I have no interest in.

I would have definitely ordered at a lower price.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
I think the huge ships is kind of weird but it's not going to turn me off getting a copy if it comes to that.

They seem comically big though.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013




I knew what this was going to be before I clicked on it.

Merauder
Apr 17, 2003

The North Remembers.
I'm backing Container because it has a hugely positive reputation, both here and elsewhere, and I'm eager to play it. I also am easily swayed by nice, unique components, but I didn't realize until just now with the above comments exactly HOW big the ships are. Over 7", apparently. That's insane. I love it.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

That is definitely great. I'll post some pictures of my components when I get a chance.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

Merauder posted:

I'm backing Container because it has a hugely positive reputation, both here and elsewhere, and I'm eager to play it. I also am easily swayed by nice, unique components, but I didn't realize until just now with the above comments exactly HOW big the ships are. Over 7", apparently. That's insane. I love it.

Traditional Games > Board Game Thread 5e: Over 7''. That's insane. I love it.

James The 1st
Feb 23, 2013

Kruller posted:

Unrelated to the very good game Orleans, assuming I have nothing for Race for the Galaxy, which expansions should I buy to start out?
Alien Artifacts is good.

Vivian Darkbloom
Jul 14, 2004


Kruller posted:

Unrelated to the very good game Orleans, assuming I have nothing for Race for the Galaxy, which expansions should I buy to start out?

Expansions are:

1: The Gathering Storm
2: Rebel vs. Imperium
3: The Brink of War
4: Alien Artifacts
5: Xeno Invasion

The first 3 form a trilogy -- you can play with 1, 1&2, or all 3 for a giant game. The theme is a galactic conflict between the Rebel Alliance (actual card from RvI) and the nefarious Imperium, builders of the Planet Buster. You should get into these expansions if you play Race a lot with the same crowd -- it makes things more interesting because there's so many more cards and because direct conflict is encouraged through the Takeover actions you can use vs. enemy planets if their military is lower than yours.

#4 is a good one if you play Race with newer players -- it doesn't make the game more confusing for the most part, just adds more stuff to do. Ignore the Orb mini-game this set comes with, it sucks. But Alien Artifacts is my favorite because it's thematic and adds some fun cards without complicating things much.

Xeno Invasion adds an optional mechanic where extragalactic monsters will take over planets if combined defenses aren't strong enough. Brutal! I haven't played this one but it's supposed to be for players who have played more Race, because the potential for analysis paralysis is strong.

Also you definitely want to play the first 4 vs. Keldon's AI. http://keldon.net/rftg/

CaptainRightful
Jan 11, 2005

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

Also you definitely want to play the first 4 vs. Keldon's AI. http://keldon.net/rftg/

I have won exactly one (1) game against Keldon's AI. I am not a RFTG fan.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008
Well, so far I think my list of things to look for at Gen Con are:
Pandemic: Reign of Cthulhu
Tragedy Looper (if Z Man has these at their booth)
War of the Ring
A demo for This War of Mine
Maybe Mysterium?

I'm really excited because Gen Con will be the first time in two years I've taken time off for something I wanna do.

Papes
Apr 13, 2010

There's always something at the bottom of the bag.
I can't think of a single gen con game I'm excited for. The climbers is great but I own the original version. I'm also looking forward to gentes and Lisboa but I wouldn't call either a gencon release.

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




I'm looking forward to Quined Games and Capstone Games having a presence. Also Millennium Blades promo pack 5 is an instabuy.

Skypie
Sep 28, 2008

Papes posted:

I can't think of a single gen con game I'm excited for. The climbers is great but I own the original version. I'm also looking forward to gentes and Lisboa but I wouldn't call either a gencon release.

Yeah none of what I listed is a Gen Con release, just games I'm interested in nabbing.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I actually have a decent list of new releases I'm hunting at Gencon.

Cave vs Cave
Battlecon Trials
Hardback
Codenames Duet
Sellswords Olympus
Splendor Cities
Gloomhaven (if I can find a copy, CSI had a few at DTC)

kinkouin
Nov 7, 2014

Skypie posted:

Well, so far I think my list of things to look for at Gen Con are:
Pandemic: Reign of Cthulhu
Tragedy Looper (if Z Man has these at their booth)
War of the Ring
A demo for This War of Mine
Maybe Mysterium?

I'm really excited because Gen Con will be the first time in two years I've taken time off for something I wanna do.

Bottom Liner posted:

I actually have a decent list of new releases I'm hunting at Gencon.

Cave vs Cave
Battlecon Trials
Hardback
Codenames Duet
Sellswords Olympus
Splendor Cities
Gloomhaven (if I can find a copy, CSI had a few at DTC)

Check the bgg GenCon preview tool. I saw about half the names on either list that I quoted.

OgreNoah
Nov 18, 2003

Also, you can preorder the Vlaada Games and pick them up at Gencon, so there's no chance they'll sell your copy.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8VPCsORvlnEQHHQ46KRI9Jjw-DqjGKnvSNlryqfyfglGvFg/viewform

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

OgreNoah posted:

Also, you can preorder the Vlaada Games and pick them up at Gencon, so there's no chance they'll sell your copy.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8VPCsORvlnEQHHQ46KRI9Jjw-DqjGKnvSNlryqfyfglGvFg/viewform

Minimal chance anyway. They come with massive stacks of the game theyre puttin out each time

al-azad
May 28, 2009



There was a neat game kickstarted earlier this year called Dark is the Night. It's basically Hunt the Wumpus where a hunter equipped with limited arrows has to track and kill a monster moving in the shadows. Both have special powers to track/evade each other. Probably going to be ~$20 for fifteen minute hidden action game and it's listed at Gencon.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Anyone tried Sword & Sorcery?

Wonder if it offers anything Gloomhaven doesn't already do better.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




Are there any heavy games coming out at GenCon? I went through the BGG preview and couldn't really find any that jumped out at me.

kinkouin
Nov 7, 2014

Mister Sinewave posted:

Anyone tried Sword & Sorcery?

Wonder if it offers anything Gloomhaven doesn't already do better.

Heard good things, havent tried it. Looking for a KS copy if anyone knows where to get one for a decent price.

Bloody Pancreas
Feb 21, 2008


There's a KS for a new expansion for Flash Point: Fire Rescue called Tragic Events. While it adds new characters to choose from, the main draw is that it replaces the boring hotspot mechanic with fire and event decks that should hopefully add some theme and variation to what is admittedly a rather simple game. It's also including all the KS exclusives from previous expansions, like the Fire Prevention Specialist and the unique PoI''s. The game is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine and, with all the weird and wacky board games coming out on KS, it's almost relieving to see a simple expansion for a simple game.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Bloody Pancreas posted:

There's a KS for a new expansion for Flash Point: Fire Rescue called Tragic Events. While it adds new characters to choose from, the main draw is that it replaces the boring hotspot mechanic with fire and event decks that should hopefully add some theme and variation to what is admittedly a rather simple game. It's also including all the KS exclusives from previous expansions, like the Fire Prevention Specialist and the unique PoI''s. The game is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine and, with all the weird and wacky board games coming out on KS, it's almost relieving to see a simple expansion for a simple game.

The games great. I used to play it with my kid all the time, then we played too much and got bored. That there event deck. Does it work with the base game and whatnot? Because that would totally make me pull the game out again.

Bloody Pancreas
Feb 21, 2008


Bombadilillo posted:

The games great. I used to play it with my kid all the time, then we played too much and got bored. That there event deck. Does it work with the base game and whatnot? Because that would totally make me pull the game out again.

Yeah it requires the base game to use, all the expansion includes are the 2 decks and some new characters and PoI's.

*EDIT* What a coincidence, Will Wheaton's Tabletop video today is this very game! Don't judge

Bloody Pancreas fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Aug 2, 2017

Fenn the Fool!
Oct 24, 2006
woohoo
Rulebook for the next Scythe expansion. Nothing earth shattering here, just a couple extra wrinkles added to the game. I'm really disappointed that each faction's airship model looks the same though.

Edit: that link isn't working for some of my friends and is for others, weird, you can get to it through this article.

Fenn the Fool! fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Aug 2, 2017

PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

g e r m a n
e n g i n e e r i n g

Yam Slacker

taser rates posted:

Container is good at any player count 3-5, but Mercury games has been terrible in their campaign for the new version, with the unnecessarily larger ships and higher cost. Also it turns out that it's not an actual reprint since it comes with fewer containers than the original, which means a game tilted more towards short-term strategy if you're playing it 5p.

There is no longer term strategy. The winner is pretty clear at hour 1.5-2, it's just playing it out. The only differences between the long and short game are 1. the winner can add to his e-peen with another record high score for BGG and 2. the losers has to suffer though another hour of desperately trying to make something work from a losing position.

What's the opinion of 5p not having a dud colour? With all colours highly valued by somebody does it lose something or gain something. I haven't totally decided myself since it's exciting to suss out the dud, but sucks if you get stuck with it as your starting industry.

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010

PlaneGuy posted:

There is no longer term strategy. The winner is pretty clear at hour 1.5-2, it's just playing it out. The only differences between the long and short game are 1. the winner can add to his e-peen with another record high score for BGG and 2. the losers has to suffer though another hour of desperately trying to make something work from a losing position.

What's the opinion of 5p not having a dud colour? With all colours highly valued by somebody does it lose something or gain something. I haven't totally decided myself since it's exciting to suss out the dud, but sucks if you get stuck with it as your starting industry.

That first paragraph is not particularly true unless people are throwing games, which happens with new players.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Quick question for those that have played Pandemic Legacy: If I am playing 2 player, with each player using 2 characters, what starting hands should I use? start with 2 cards for 4 players, or 4 cards for 2 players? I know this is a small thing, I just do not want to gently caress anything up considering how we will end up...you know...destroying the board.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




enigmahfc posted:

Quick question for those that have played Pandemic Legacy: If I am playing 2 player, with each player using 2 characters, what starting hands should I use? start with 2 cards for 4 players, or 4 cards for 2 players? I know this is a small thing, I just do not want to gently caress anything up considering how we will end up...you know...destroying the board.

It is in no way a small thing!

2 cards for four players. Keep each player hand separate. You're playing 4 players but controlling two characters each with two humans, but in all respects it's a 4 player game.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

silvergoose posted:

It is in no way a small thing!

2 cards for four players. Keep each player hand separate. You're playing 4 players but controlling two characters each with two humans, but in all respects it's a 4 player game.

That's what I was leaning toward, just didn't want to make the game too easy/hard. Thanks.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Oh wow! Those Heimlich & Co. components are such a flashback. Loved that game when I was little.

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Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

Played Terraforming Mars for the first time tonight and it was a blast. It reminds me of Race for the Galaxy but the map and pvp cards make it much more interactive between players. The card-drafting especially at the beginning of each round really made you really care about what your opponents were doing. Other 'engine building' games I play I find I'm solely focused on my own cards and pray my combos out perform my friends at the end of the game. We played a 4 player game and were all first time players. I had the corp ability that let me use heat as money and found it really powerful as I stacked "increase heat and power production" activate cards at the start. Every round I think I had a 10-30 cash advantage over my friends. Main thing I noticed is you can't ignore 1 of the 3 endgame conditions because we maxed out oxygen much faster than sea and temperature, and my friend stacked a bunch of end-game oxygen cards that let him collect 3 animals a turn for 1 VP each. I manged to win by 2 points in the end with milestone and award VPs. The game's an instant favorite for me and my group. Only small criticism I have is the rule book is all over the place (and your opening hand + player board displays over a dozen resources and counters) but after taking an hour to figure out Turn 1 the game ran very smoothly. Can't wait to play again.

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