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Lots of new posts... figured at least one would be about a plane crash, but nope! Guess I will have to fix that. http://www.12news.com/news/local/valley/2-in-critical-condition-after-plane-crash-south-of-deer-valley-airport/461070033 Both occupants last reported in critical condition, somewhat surprised they survived given the condition of the aircraft in the photo's. Radio reported it was a Grumman AA1.
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vessbot posted:Air Force One is the callsign of any Air Force aircraft the President is on. Navy One and Marine One, respectively. Executive One if it's a civilian aircraft. Is there an Army One?
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Aug 2, 2017 03:45
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Man "Army One" sounds dumb as hell and I'm glad they got rid of it.
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Aug 2, 2017 03:52
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Plinkey posted:Is there an Army One? I don't believe a sitting US president has ever flown in an Army aircraft, but technically there could be I guess? Maybe if all the Marine helicopters broke down they'd stick him in a Chinook or Blackhawk or something. Why do the marines get to fly the President's helicopters, anyway?
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Aug 2, 2017 04:24
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Plinkey posted:Is there an Army One? Sagebrush posted:I don't believe a sitting US president has ever flown in an Army aircraft, but technically there could be I guess? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_One Army One is the callsign of any United States Army aircraft carrying the President of the United States. From 1957 until 1976, this was usually an Army helicopter transporting the President. Prior to 1976, responsibility for helicopter transportation of the President was divided between the Army and the U.S. Marine Corps until the Marine Corps was given the sole responsibility of transporting the President by helicopter. During its presidential service, the helicopter was known either as Marine One or Army One, depending on whether Marine or Army pilots were operating the craft.[3]
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Aug 2, 2017 04:26
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The president switched to Sea King helicopters in 1961, and from the VH-3A to the VH-3D in 1976. The Army didn't fly Sea Kings, but apparently trained pilots solely for Army One until 1976, when they decided (possibly because of the post Vietnam drawdown) that it wasn't a very efficient use of pilots or pilot training.
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Aug 2, 2017 05:03
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Sagebrush posted:Why do the marines get to fly the President's helicopters, anyway? Snazzier dress uniforms, and it's traditional for the president to knock their hats off for good luck. 
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Aug 2, 2017 05:13
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I was waiting for a flight out of Siem Reap, Cambodia like 17 years ago and a 757 landed with the Air Force One paint job and pulled up outside the terminal I think it was Dick Gephardt flying in for who knows what. Certainly got everyone's attention
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Aug 2, 2017 09:04
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Cat Mattress posted:As for other heads of states and heads of governments, it depends from country to country, depending on the leader's vanity and the country's resources. This is  quote:For long haul trips, aircraft belonging to the commercial airline Royal Dutch Airlines (KLM) are used. Often the upper deck of a Boeing 747 is used. Sometimes the Fokker 70 is sent ahead; for the long stretch a KLM flight is used and for the final trip the Fokker. King Willem-Alexander has a Fokker 70/100 type rating and is often seen as pilot on these trips. To keep his licence current he sometimes flew with KLM Cityhopper on scheduled flights. As part of the KLM Fokker drawdown, King Willem-Alexander is training on mainline KLM Boeing 737 aircraft to qualify to fly the new VIP plane.
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Aug 2, 2017 12:40
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"Ahhhhhhhhhh-this your captain speaking... If you'll Ahhhhhhhhhh-look up into the cockpit you'll see that your Ahhhhhhhhhh-captain is also your King so Ahhhhhhhhhh-sit back, buckle up, and remember your sworn oath to your ruler and liege or so help me I will royaly lawn dart this mother."
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Aug 2, 2017 14:17
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Prince Harry can drive a tank and Prince William can fly a helicopter We're a few royals short of an Area 88 style PMC here
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Aug 2, 2017 14:53
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um excuse me posted:*Bursts into room gasping* "We know. Sit down."
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Aug 2, 2017 15:17
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MikeCrotch posted:Prince Harry can drive a tank and Prince William can fly a helicopter Harry can also fly a helicopter King of Jordan also flies military hardware iirc
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Aug 2, 2017 15:29
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King of Jordan is an ex-Armor officer and Cobra pilot.
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Aug 2, 2017 16:39
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simplefish posted:Harry can also fly a helicopter I hung around the royal squadron in Amman for a few weeks. They love the dude. One day he flies F-16s over Syria, the next day he'll show up and fly himself around in one of their S-70s.
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Aug 2, 2017 16:40
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If I were president, I'd demand to get qualed on the F-22 or A-10. Cost be damned.
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Aug 2, 2017 17:09
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cowboy elvis posted:If I were president, I'd demand to get qualed on the F-22 or A-10. Cost be damned.  even if I don't fit in the cockpit (I am p tall)
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Aug 2, 2017 17:13
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cowboy elvis posted:If I were president, I'd demand to get qualed on the F-22 or A-10. Cost be damned. Useful in case of alien invasion. You know, to rally the cause: 
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Aug 2, 2017 17:14
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cowboy elvis posted:If I were president, I'd demand to get qualed on the F-22 or A-10. Cost be damned. The President isn't even allowed to drive a car.
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Aug 2, 2017 17:59
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simplefish posted:Harry can also fly a helicopter Met the guy at Camp Bastion back in 2012 when he was flying Apaches, I gave what I thought was just another Brit helo officer a tour of our HH-60 that I happened to be working on at the time. Only learned afterwards that it was him when someone else came and notified me of who he was.
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Aug 2, 2017 17:59
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Harry is the best royal. 
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Aug 2, 2017 18:01
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:King of Jordan is an ex-Armor officer and Cobra pilot. And a science officer in Starfleet.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:02
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Godholio posted:And a science officer in Starfleet. But he's stuck on voyager.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:17
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joat mon posted:
I never really thought about this but between the engines and gearbox a bunch of the weight of a helicopter is basically in its roof, right? What's in the bottom to counterbalance? Or do they just make sure that the fuselage is wide enough so it doesn't tip over?
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Aug 2, 2017 18:18
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When airborne it's being supported from above by the rotor(s). On the ground, it's not really moving, and certainly not going around corners at high speed, so being top-heavy isn't much of a liability like it is in an SUV or whatever.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:31
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Enourmo posted:When airborne it's being supported from above by the rotor(s). On the ground, it's not really moving, and certainly not going around corners at high speed, so being top-heavy isn't much of a liability like it is in an SUV or whatever.
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Aug 2, 2017 18:36
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Comrade Gorbash posted:They do have a tendency to tip over if the pilot puts them down on uneven ground, though, which is one reason why utility and military transport choppers do tend to be pretty wide. They also flip in the water. If you have to ride in one on a regular basis (at least in the USN and USMC), you have to go through a water egress course for helicopters. Its a hoot. Strap into a dummy helicopter fuselage, get dropped into the water, it flips, egress.
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Aug 2, 2017 19:24
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MikeCrotch posted:Prince Harry can drive a tank and Prince William can fly a helicopter Charles flew Harriers and Phillip actually had a quite accomplished WWII Naval record. If you are extend out even a little bit you get all kinds of other stuff as well.
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Aug 2, 2017 20:18
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Bob A Feet posted:They also flip in the water. If you have to ride in one on a regular basis (at least in the USN and USMC), you have to go through a water egress course for helicopters. Its a hoot. Strap into a dummy helicopter fuselage, get dropped into the water, it flips, egress. I actually got to do this at a summer camp once, about 12 years ago now. Can confirm it is fun (most fun part was the kids who panicked)
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Aug 2, 2017 20:23
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MikeCrotch posted:Prince Harry can drive a tank and Prince William can fly a helicopter Their father on the other hand isn't allowed near RAF aircraft after this little prang back in '94 whilst he was at the controls:  He was using the 146 for the HRH equivalent of a beer run at the time too, quote:On his visit to the distillery, the Prince was invited to bung two casks of Laphroaig. The two casks were given to him, which he kindly donated to two charity funds of his choice.
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Aug 2, 2017 20:32
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Shamelessly stolen from PPRuNe: https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/pr20170802.aspx
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Aug 2, 2017 20:33
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Mortabis posted:I actually got to do this at a summer camp once, about 12 years ago now. Can confirm it is fun (most fun part was the kids who panicked) I was going to do it because we were going to be testing from an RN carrier but that took a whole big poo poo for a variety of reasons and I didn't have to do it. But on the plus side, I didn't have to go to England again. Now I just get to take water survivability training for some reason. Jump in with all my flight gear on, tread water for x seconds, climb in the raft. Wheee.
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Aug 2, 2017 20:45
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Tsuru posted:Shamelessly stolen from PPRuNe: hoooooly smokes that's close, and that's probably not even the nadir
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Aug 2, 2017 21:00
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ManifunkDestiny posted:hoooooly smokes that's close, and that's probably not even the nadir quote:The incident pilots advanced the thrust levers when the airplane was about 85 feet above ground level. Flight data recorder data indicate the airplane was over the taxiway at this time. About 2.5 seconds after advancing the thrust levers, the minimum altitude recorded on the FDR was 59 feet above ground level. 
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Aug 2, 2017 21:08
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The more we learn about this the more astonished I am that this didn't end with them getting everyone killed, holy poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2017 21:22
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Wikipedia has the 787 tail height at 55 feet and 10 inches.
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Aug 2, 2017 21:43
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Murgos posted:Charles flew Harriers and Phillip actually had a quite accomplished WWII Naval record. If you are extend out even a little bit you get all kinds of other stuff as well. King George VI was in charge of a battleship turret at Jutland.
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Aug 2, 2017 21:59
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MikeCrotch posted:Prince Harry can drive a tank and Prince William can fly a helicopter Elizabeth can drive an ambulance.
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Aug 2, 2017 22:42
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Platystemon posted:Elizabeth can drive an ambulance. And prince Philip knows how to drive one of these: 
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When Jordan retaliated for that pilot being burned alive a couple years ago, allegedly the king flew a couple combat sorties.
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