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Kramdar posted:In regards to easy ways of getting citizenship, when my wife and I went to Ireland we looked in the how we could easily become citizens there. It only took $300,000 invested in a business while employing two locals. Or if you just wanted to outright donate $500,000 to either some public library or university, they would make you a citizen. Ah yes just drop 300K$, or maybe 500K$. tax: 
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Posting this was my initial reaction too but I thought better of it because I respect some of the people I share this thread with. Noctone posted:Covok are you 16 or something? Goddamn. Yes we established this when he said he didn't get his first boner until 2009. He thought Sicko was a horror movie. i am harry fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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Noctone posted:Covok are you 16 or something? Goddamn. I'm 24 years old. WampaLord posted:We got a real avatar/post disconnect on this one. Lightning Lord posted:He was a Democrat who supported the Civil Rights Act and even protested against segregated restaurants in Oklahoma but then his brain was broken by Goldwater's run for prez I guess Huh, I did not know this. This is either common knowledge or you are all waaay older than me.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:15
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dont even fink about it posted:lol we're never going to see another left-wing pope in our lifetimes I dunno, the population of Catholics in the Third World is growing rapidly. They tend to be pretty left-wing economically, though it's kind of a mixed bag because they also tend to be very conservative with regard to LGBT issues, women, etc.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:16
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Covok posted:I'm 24 years old. Both.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:17
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Covok posted:Huh, I did not know this. This is either common knowledge or you are all waaay older than me. What a difference a decade makes.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:17
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Noctone posted:The business world is incredibly stubborn about associating hours with productivity. At my last job as an electrical engineer at a pipeline I met with my boss for an annual review and he said to me "I see you're averaging about 45 hours/week, we kind of feel like that's the bare minimum around here" and I was kind of flabbergasted because I was getting all of my assigned projects done and still had plenty of thumb-twiddling time. I tried explaining to him that the only thing that should matter is if I was getting poo poo done but he was having none of it. So I just started padding my time card and everyone was happy. My wife is having this exact problem. Some days she has to stay at work two or so hours hours late because she something gets scheduled late or a crisis happens. Whatever. If she works past five one day, she'll leave the next day once her work is done, but she always gets her work done. In fact a most weeks she has a few hours she works when there is nothing for her to do. Anyway, she had a performance review today and her report had something like "employee flexs time to only work 40 hours a week even though she's been told she's salary and will have to work late some times." She was so pissed.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:19
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Pander posted:Both. i am harry posted:What a difference a decade makes. I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles?
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Aug 3, 2017 05:21
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? If he's 34 he would have been 4 when Reagan left office
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? Yes but we didn't have 24 hour news cycles and a direct access to his addled stream of consciousness so the spin was more effective.
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I just realized there's a non-zero chance that Fox News and other outlets won't shut up about North Korea because it's the only way the president will be informed
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? It was awesome, Sesame Street was dope and my grandma gave me a hot wheels forest service truck I took for show and tell in kindergarten
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Aug 3, 2017 05:30
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Covok posted:Huh, I did not know this. This is either common knowledge or you are all waaay older than me. Here's a helpful primer on latter day Charlton Heston https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORYVCML8xeE
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Aug 3, 2017 05:31
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? The dividing line between you and "us" was the internet. There was a sort of schism in the mid/late-90s as the internet went from piecemeal to ubiquitous. But the world before 1995 and the world after about 2000 (let's say 9/11 to use obvious available symbolism) are two vastly different worlds because of the internet. The at-will connectivity to the public zeitgeist is provides orders of magnitude more information than was available before, and made more accessible to boot. I don't know if "common knowledge" works the same as it used to. There used to be trivial pursuit, jeopardy, everyone watching the same news shows at 6pm. It's much more current-events focused today.
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Lightning Lord posted:If he's 34 he would have been 4 when Reagan left office Huh? I was 3 when Reagan left office and I'm 31 now. e; But yeah the difference between us early Millennials born in the 80s and those who were born in the 90s is bigger than lumping us all in together would suggest. The changes in politics, media, and the Internet are... well it's kind of difficult to really impress on you youngins how radical the changes were. 
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“I predict that General Kelly will go down, in terms of the position of Chief of Staff, one of the great ever, and we're going to have a good time."- the president
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Mister Adequate posted:Huh? I was 3 when Reagan left office and I'm 31 now. Politically I'd say we're more likely to have been moderate til W and then crashed hard left when it was pretty clear where the right was going, while the younger millennials probably started left and stayed that way.
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Aug 3, 2017 05:41
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PhazonLink posted:Ah yes just drop 300K$, or maybe 500K$. No tax. Only spend.
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Pander posted:It's not really the 80s or the 90s. So, serious question, before the internet, where would you go to discuss unpopular political ideas? Like, socialism isn't the devil or black people should be treated like white people?
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dont even fink about it posted:lol we're never going to see another left-wing pope in our lifetimes Read the article and you'll see how he's stacking the deck to make sure you're wrong.
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I am 31, so please send all your questions about living with Jimmy Carter as president my way.
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Pander posted:Politically I'd say we're more likely to have been moderate til W and then crashed hard left when it was pretty clear where the right was going, while the younger millennials probably started left and stayed that way. That's been my anecdotal experience too, I know plenty of people around my age who used to be more centrist or right-wing (Or libertarian like idiot me  ) who have moved more left now. Younger ones seem to have started off that way. Might just be selection bias though, I haven't hung out with a huge number of people that age.Covok posted:So, serious question, before the internet, where would you go to discuss unpopular political ideas? Like, socialism isn't the devil or black people should be treated like white people? A seedy bar, a society or club (legal or not), or straight-up gangs, newsletters, etc. Persuading people relied on committed activists who would be able to go out and convince people, for example the way MLK gave such great speeches. That's a gross oversimplification and only one part of a much bigger movement, but yeah.
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Covok posted:So, serious question, before the internet, where would you go to discuss unpopular political ideas? Like, socialism isn't the devil or black people should be treated like white people? You etched it on a bathroom stall. That's a joke but I actually do remember as a kid in suburban Indiana going to the toilet at the grocery store we always went to and written on the stall wall in Sharpie was "HITLER LIVES" and a swastika. Since I was a kid and took it literally I just chuckled to myself and said "Heh, no he doesn't!"
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Covok posted:So, serious question, before the internet, where would you go to discuss unpopular political ideas? Like, socialism isn't the devil or black people should be treated like white people? In my case, school or family when I was young. I hit college in 2000, so I had access to a huge social network both due to the internet and being at a relatively left of center 30,000 student university. You just didn't have too many options. 1) Your community shaped/agreed with your views 2) You didn't really care about bigger picture stuff. 3) You disagreed with your community and thus were kinda hosed unless you moved/ran away ASAP. I was #2 until college, then I was #1. My wife was #3 (grew up liberal in a very small hick town in central IL). The internet adds a fourth option: ignore the local area and find an echo chamber you like on the web.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyQgwVvYyc I want Cernovich to lose his mind over this so bad
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? It leads to sort of an odd dissonance where the Ronald Reagan I remember was good and seemed like a solid leader, but looking back on him reveals a completely different Ronald Reagan, one who was some uncertain balance of malicious and dumb. It does let me sort of understand how people can feel things were better "back in the good ol' days," because a part of me thinks so too. THAT Ronald Reagan, the one on TV when I was in third grade, he was a great leader. The reason I'm not a Conservative is because I am willing to recognize that the thing I remember from when I was a dumbshit seven-year-old who didn't actually understand a goddamn thing might not actually be the truth. poo poo, I thought KITT was an actual talking car back then, because kids are loving stupid, and I was definitely no exception. I know that the President I remember from my childhood never actually existed, and I think that a lot of the Conservative mindset revolves around hammering "the past was better" into their brains so hard that they won't let themselves actually turn around and look at it. So to them, the imaginary President Ronnie will always be the great man they saw on TV when they were rock-stupid kids. The Republicans used Reagan as a prop. They got a pop-culture figure into the White House, because he could beat the challenger by sheer name-recognition. Then they could sit this mentally addled and ethically flexible old man in the big chair, while surrounding him with all the people they actually wanted to do the work. Ronnie would just smile and act presidential (he was an actor, after all) and let the Republican party do what it wanted. Donald Trump was clearly supposed to be Reagan 2.0. They got most of the ingredients right. He had the name recognition to win (well... maybe with help from some comrades), he wasn't too bright, and his ethics are more flexible than Steve Bannon doing his Onanist Ouroboros routine. The Republicans made one major miscalculation, because a key part of this plan is that Reagan, for all of his many faults, at least behaved like an adult. Trump acts almost exactly like my 5-year-old niece, and let me tell you, she is absolutely awful. They never anticipated that a grown-rear end man would throw temper tantrums whenever he doesn't get his way, refuse to do things entirely because someone else suggested it, go absolutely apeshit whenever he's not the center of attention, or launch into angry shouting matches because of things he saw on TV that morning. Trump isn't Reagan because he can not be controlled, not by loyalty, not by reason, not by threats. The Republicans didn't expect to lose control of their puppet. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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Covok posted:So, serious question, before the internet, where would you go to discuss unpopular political ideas? Like, socialism isn't the devil or black people should be treated like white people? Zines or small press, community newspapers. I remember in 1990, when I was 11 years old, my mother going to the co-op in Corvallis, Oregon, and seeing *exotic* foods, like maybe  hummus , and also we would read the bulletin boards and get the local newspaper. All of this stuff, in the 1990s, was rather shocking, like going and buying some organic produce and reading a non-mainstream newspaper felt like it was radical. Some of that was that I was 11 years old, but some of it was that it really was different then. Part of the reason that I feel sorry for the Alex Jones crowd is that, in 1997, I would have believed a lot of these things. Like I remember reading a zine that said ASPARTAME CAUSED AIDS, and at the time it seemed like a plausible explanation. Its just that, 20 years later, it just seems so passe, I've heard it all before. But in the 1990s? Still like this fresh, electric idea, that because someone could desktop publish something, it was a hidden truth.
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pillsburysoldier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyQgwVvYyc Any time I meet anyone who uses the terms alpha and beta male not ironically I know exactly who I'm dealing with and peace out so fast I reach exit velocity and leave the earth behind Cernovich will angrily watch this and say alphas males do exist and the guzzle a few gallons of gorilla sperm just to be in the safe side
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/892968039095820290 This one might not wholly be on Trump.
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Covok posted:I suppose so. How was it living in the 80s? Was Regan this batshit after he lost his marbles? see if 'The Day After' is on pirate bay
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Teddybear posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/892968039095820290 I don't love this, but I do love the difficult position it puts Trump in with regards to responding to it because he is 100% guaranteed to gently caress it up in some hilarious and unpredictably stupid way.
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empty whippet box posted:I don't love this, but I do love the difficult position it puts Trump in with regards to responding to it because he is 100% guaranteed to gently caress it up in some hilarious and unpredictably stupid way. He'll blame Congress and invade Iran. You know it, I know it.
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Teddybear posted:He'll blame Congress and invade Iran. You know it, I know it. Yeah, he said he doesn't want his own iraq war, so he'll have his own vietnam instead.
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dont even fink about it posted:lol we're never going to see another left-wing pope in our lifetimes ...why? Not like the US public gets a vote.
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Teddybear posted:He'll blame Congress and invade Iran. You know it, I know it. Not while North Korea is going on.
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glowing-fish posted:Zines or small press, community newspapers. Yeah, that sound familiar. I was born in '76 in Austin, and we had the Austin Chronicle (still in operation), which was a free "alternative" paper, but it was an actual paper, not something made on a xerox machine (a term I only recently learned is unknown to my 16-year-old students). It was a lot more openly liberal than the Austin American Statesman (which, as far as I know is a fine paper). I was very non-political until I got older, but Bill Clinton seemed decent. When Bush II came along I recognized someone who was pretty much the antithesis of everything I believed in. I also discovered Kurt Vonnegut in High School and absorbed all his work, since I had never been exposed to that sort of political philosophy. I read a ton of fiction and I think that's where most of my moral philosophy came from. Not in an Ayn Randian way, but just by reading stories by writers who showed how difficult life is for almost everyone and the callous way that the strong so often take advantage of the weak. Authors like Joseph Heller, Douglas Adams, Bobbie Ann Mason, and a ton of science fiction, shows like Star Trek, all that stuff. I wasn't really political till the internet came along, then I found communities online, and things like meetup groups.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Not while North Korea is going on. haha for sure man
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JawKnee posted:...why? Not like the US public gets a vote. The US public quite likes Francis anyway. It's just your weird aunt on Facebook who likes to be holier than thou to make up for the fact she has no family or career who hates him.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Not while North Korea is going on. You think Trump will think of things like "troop numbers" and "logistics" before declaring in four hours while he squeezes out yesterday's McDonald's that we're invading the neighbor countrybaddies Iran and North Korea bing bing bong so simple?
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