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I thought laser discs had analog sound. Though maybe I was just misunderstanding the person who was explaining to me why she loves laserdisc so much compared to modern video storage.
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Cojawfee posted:I thought laser discs had analog sound. Though maybe I was just misunderstanding the person who was explaining to me why she loves laserdisc so much compared to modern video storage. Ntsc laserdisc could support
The ac3 actually surprised me lol
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Aug 1, 2017 22:27
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Cojawfee posted:I thought laser discs had analog sound. Though maybe I was just misunderstanding the person who was explaining to me why she loves laserdisc so much compared to modern video storage. Laserdiscs are a glorious mess when it comes to sound. As I recall it started like this: When originally released, Laserdiscs had two channels of analog sound. When CDs became a thing, Laserdiscs started to come with Digital sound as another two channels (NTSC) or as an alternative to the analog (PAL). Then you started to get Dolby Surround / Pro Logic, where your receiver can create a mono centre and rear out of a nominally stereo signal. In the 90's. you started to get laserdiscs with Dolby Digital AC3 5.1. To make it fit on the disc, it replaced one of the analog channels (so you never got PAL DD discs) and it was RF encoded, which meant you needed a demodulator or suitable receiver to decode the DD output. I have a late 90's Pioneer receiver, which can handle it, and the 5.1 does sound good. I couldn't tell you if it sounds better than on a DVD or whatever, but I like it. Finally there were the handful of DTS digital tracks, which replaced one of the digital channels and required a DTS capable receiver. I think there was one German PAL+ disc that came with DTS. Otherwise, NTSC only again Wasn't the theory that Laserdiscs sounded better mostly based on them allegedly having proper cinema mixes for the surround, where DVD often used a single one that was not ideal for either stereo or surround?
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Aug 1, 2017 22:32
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EVIL Gibson posted:There were for sure 5.1 dts sound tracks in laserdisc but they came during when the tech had the most popularity. I recognize, I just never had a decoder/modulator for it and haven't heard it myself.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:40
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Star Man posted:To this day, my mother still calls CDs and DVDs tapes. Stuff has a weird way of sticking around. I work at a place with a lot of young kids and somehow I've heard/seen them: refer to recording a video on a cellphone as "taping" something have a conversation about their opinions on OJ Simpson do the macarena What loving monster is still teaching kids the macarena god drat
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Aug 1, 2017 22:41
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Light Gun Man posted:refer to recording a video on a cellphone as "taping" something This just makes no sense. Taping something is when you record a TV show. I've never in my life heard someone say they were taping something with a camcorder.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:07
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Anonymouse Mook posted:Wasn't the theory that Laserdiscs sounded better mostly based on them allegedly having proper cinema mixes for the surround, where DVD often used a single one that was not ideal for either stereo or surround? Supposedly. The reasoning goes that since DVD wasn't a thing yet, and laserdisc was such a niche format, anybody who buys a movie on laserdisc and uses the (optional) surround sound tracks was 100% guaranteed to have a decent home theater setup, so rather than spend the time and effort to make a separate 5.1 mix for laserdisc, just use the theatrical 5.1 mix that's already been made. Whereas with DVD, a surround sound track is automatically converted to stereo if it's not connected to a home theater system, so a 5.1 mix on a DVD has to sound good when downconverted to stereo and played back on the tiny speakers that are built into most TVs, which don't have the same range as the loudspeakers in a movie theater. And this is limited to movies that came out in theaters during the early to mid 90's, which was the beginning of digital theatrical sound, but before DVD was really a thing, such as:
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Aug 1, 2017 23:11
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Iron Crowned posted:drat if there wasn't a shitload of detail lost in that magnetic tape and 480p.  480i.In college I worked at a place that made a video editing suite for Windows NT, and interlaced fields were the bane of our existence. Well, that and the NTSC frame rate of 29.97 frames per second. We learned to envy our European counterparts with their nice even PAL frame rate of 25 and better vertical resolution.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:18
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roffels posted:I recognize, I just never had a decoder/modulator for it and haven't heard it myself. Gotcha. I was wondering because it looks like all the surround sound formats for laserdisc came with another audio track which , I hope, we're still accessible with machines without the proper decoders.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:25
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Grand Prize Winner posted:And the generation after that will be like "how could these savages deal with only being able to walk behind the characters? you can't even taste their emotions, what a bunch of bullshit"
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Aug 1, 2017 23:31
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There was also DVD-Audio that never really got its hooks into the market as was pretty geared towards audiophiles. Granted the 5.1 mix of Dark Side of the moon and that Beatles Love thing was pretty cool. Wiki claims the format was quietly retired in 2007.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:31
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What's the point of 5.1 music? A lot of music, like the Beatles, was mastered in mono and then hacked up into stereo later.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:33
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Very little point beyond catering to the diehard market. Most stuff released had to be remastered to work as most things from the 60s/70s were mono. So in some way having mono stems worked as you were able to kinda mix audio around to effect. Dark Side has a bit where they originally had someone running around a mic stand. In the 5.1 version that was mixed across the channels to give the proper aural effect. The Beatles Love was a mashup of bits from all over their works so it's kinda cool as an experimental piece. It also was for Circ Du Solei.
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Aug 1, 2017 23:44
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WebDog posted:Very little point beyond catering to the diehard market. Most stuff released had to be remastered to work as most things from the 60s/70s were mono. I could imagine it being kinda neat for orchestral stuff. With the right recording/mix it'd feel like you're standing right in the conductor's podium or whatever. OR even a special mix to make it feel like you're in the concession line about to pay $8 for a hot dog right as the performance starts
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Aug 1, 2017 23:50
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Cojawfee posted:What's the point of 5.1 music? A lot of music, like the Beatles, was mastered in mono and then hacked up into stereo later. Some of it sounds really cool. Pink Floyd was mastered for stereo and quad sound in the 1970s. Some modern albums sound pretty great too.
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roffels posted:Some of it sounds really cool. I was just going to say the dts pink floyd is one of my favorites.
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Dream Theater (and probably a bunch of other bands) have done 5.1 mixes of their albums as special editions, sometimes on DVD-A. I'm sure it can sound pretty cool, but I don't have either a DVD-A player nor a surround sound system to see for myself.Cojawfee posted:This just makes no sense. Taping something is when you record a TV show. I've never in my life heard someone say they were taping something with a camcorder. I have. Makes sense to me. Yay for regional variations in language!
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I've been having a play with the DTS CD format, now that I have a cd player hooked up via toslink to a receiver. I've grabbed a few of the DTS CDs off eBay and made my own copy of Flaming Lips' Zaireeka, where each CD is mapped to one of the four channels. I do need to look at getting some of the dvd-a/SACD discs sometimes to try. I've heard the King Crimson releases are pretty good.
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Cojawfee posted:This just makes no sense. Taping something is when you record a TV show. I've never in my life heard someone say they were taping something with a camcorder. Seriously? It's, like, the only verb I've ever heard anyone use for recording a video. Monosyllables have power
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Powered Descent posted:
A VHS tape had a resolution of ~240 lines, S-VHS improved that to ~400.
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Aug 2, 2017 15:24
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Is Lunch Meat on Blu Ray yet? https://youtu.be/514y1qeaIYU
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Cojawfee posted:This just makes no sense. Taping something is when you record a TV show. I've never in my life heard someone say they were taping something with a camcorder. yeah, camcorder is "filming", or similar -- not taping
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Aug 3, 2017 13:10
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   aw man
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Nice piece of early-00s tech
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Aug 3, 2017 14:20
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I used to run a qnx theme on windows 98/me using windowblinds. Really nice looking stuff.
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Aug 3, 2017 14:23
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GutBomb posted:I used to run a qnx theme on windows 98/me using windowblinds. Really nice looking stuff. I had totally forgotten that you could theme Windows back then.
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WebDog posted:There was also DVD-Audio that never really got its hooks into the market as was pretty geared towards audiophiles. Yeah, my kid wanted a dvd player for his abc kids dvds. I thought if I'm going to spend $30 on a dvd player I may as well pay $30 for a good s/h denon DVD player that does all the audio stuff. I haven't bought any discs yet but at least the option for me is there instead of buying some new cheap crappy dvd player.
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Iron Crowned posted:I had totally forgotten that you could theme Windows back then. I was a huge litestep nerd.
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found this in a box of detritus that could probably be its own thread, i have video cards going back twenty years in there kind of ashamed that i let it fall in to this state of disrepair but everything is bluetooth now so this is obsolete. having thirty button macros to put the living room in to theater mode with one touch were worth $250...right?  goes for $6 on ebay
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Aug 3, 2017 18:33
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Efexeye posted:found this in a box of detritus that could probably be its own thread, i have video cards going back twenty years in there I had one of these. My dad gave it to me when he got tired of it. I threw it out about 10 years ago when I spilled Sprite in it. It didn't help that you had to reprogram the thing every time you changed the batteries.
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Efexeye posted:found this in a box of detritus that could probably be its own thread, i have video cards going back twenty years in there By the end of the decade, they'll have a bluetooth device that is surgically implanted in your mouth by replacing one of your molars and you issue commands to devices by licking it.
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Aug 3, 2017 18:35
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Iron Crowned posted:It didn't help that you had to reprogram the thing every time you changed the batteries. not if you changed one at a time 
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Star Man posted:By the end of the decade, they'll have a bluetooth device that is surgically implanted in your mouth by replacing one of your molars and you issue commands to devices by licking it. I already lick all my molars, I wouldn't be able to use that.
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Star Man posted:By the end of the decade, they'll have a bluetooth device that is surgically implanted in your mouth by replacing one of your molars and you issue commands to devices by licking it. http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/technology/ct-wisconsin-company-microchips-workers-20170801-story.html i think william gibson or maybe alistair reynolds (?) posited magnets in the roof of your mouth that you touch with the one in your tongue to affect commands via bluetooth
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Efexeye posted:found this in a box of detritus that could probably be its own thread, i have video cards going back twenty years in there So it's like a primitive Logitech Harmony?
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Instant Sunrise posted:So it's like a primitive Logitech Harmony? Yeah, from 1996 EDIT: Probably 1998 because it has a space for DVD
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Efexeye posted:not if you changed one at a time I can hear them scream already! If only I'd known!! lol
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Aug 3, 2017 19:47
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it could learn any IR code from any remote i had it programmed for my ceiling fan and bought a window AC with a remote solely to use it with this device
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Efexeye posted:found this in a box of detritus that could probably be its own thread, i have video cards going back twenty years in there I still have mine and use it to run my home theater, projector, ceiling fan and some other stuff.
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