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Pollyanna posted:When does this rally take place? It takes a while to gather that many Bund members.
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Riptor posted:is he making another boy scout speech Outdoor cinema version of the piss tape.
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Please let this be nothing a big 'ol nothingburger That's what we need right now Please don't let this be an announcement to end CSR, or ban trans individuals from the military, or anything like that
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Paradoxish posted:They offer health insurance apparently, but at least according to that article the actual wages for these jobs are very low. The high-end of the scale given is $13/hour, which is actually on the low side for warehouse work. Warehouse jobs can be pretty awful and even lovely companies tend to offer at least slightly better than retail wages so that people have any reason at all to stick around. Yeah Warehouse jobs here start at $18 hr in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.
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BlueberryCanary posted:Please let this be nothing By the way he said the media is going to love it, God knows.
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Aug 3, 2017 17:36
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I can't wait for the announcement to leak out in a half hour
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Aug 3, 2017 17:37
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:I once read an article that said that people who post about doing things online are less likely to accomplish that goal because talking about it and getting karma/likes/upvotes/farts give you the same satisfaction as having actually done it and thus your motivation is gone. Is there a word for this effect? I dunno if there's a term for it but there's evidence that telling people your goals (internet or not) can make you less likely to achieve them: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/200905/if-you-want-succeed-don-t-tell-anyone
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Aug 3, 2017 17:38
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BlueberryCanary posted:Please let this be nothing Stopping CSRs actually might hilariously backfire and end up increasing the amount of overall subsidies the government pays out, making healthcare more affordable.
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Reik posted:Stopping CSRs actually might hilariously backfire and end up increasing the amount of overall subsidies the government pays out, making healthcare more affordable. How do?
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Reik posted:Stopping CSRs actually might hilariously backfire and end up increasing the amount of overall subsidies the government pays out, making healthcare more affordable. How so?
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If he announces that he's cutting CSR there's a decent chance Congress removes his ability to do that.
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Oh my loving god. Leaked transcript of Trump's phone convos with Pena Nieto and Malcom Turnbull. They are basically treating him with kid gloves and giving him baby-talk on international policy while Trump randomly interjects with references to his amazing election victory: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.a155c95aaa9c Here's a snippet from his discussion with Turnbull about accepting refugees through Australia in late January: quote:TRUMP
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Aug 3, 2017 17:40
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Maybe he's just resigning because he hates waking up every day
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JailTrump posted:How so? Subsidies to the insurance companies are tied to the lowest cost silver plan. If you cut subsidies to mitigate risk from the sickest people, the insurance companies will dramatically raise the cost of these silver plans thereby making the cost of a bronze plan much cheaper or make a gold plan similar in cost to a silver plan.
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Aug 3, 2017 17:42
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BlueberryCanary posted:Please let this be nothing Is this the big announcement
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HappyHippo posted:I dunno if there's a term for it but there's evidence that telling people your goals (internet or not) can make you less likely to achieve them: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/200905/if-you-want-succeed-don-t-tell-anyone That's the exact article I read! I like "virtue signaling"
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JailTrump posted:How so? CSR subsidies apply to Silver plans only. See: https://obamacarefacts.com/insurance-exchange/cost-sharing-reduction-subsidies-csr/ Ending them will only spike the cost of Silver plans. Similarly, regular subsidies are based on the cost of Silver plans (specifically, the second-cheapest). So if you dramatically spike Silver plans, people get much larger subsidies for the (same-priced) bronze or gold plans.
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Guys, we are looking at leaks bigly incorrect https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/893119247022305281
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funkymonks posted:He lost NH so that part isn't true. I was wondering about the second part, but hearing the first part first was way funnier.
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Aug 3, 2017 17:46
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JailTrump posted:Yeah Warehouse jobs here start at $18 hr in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. I'm guessing this is sarcastic Back in 2008, I had a warehouse job that paid all of $8.50 (and that was excitingly not minimum wage!!!) and while it was in somewhat bumfuck Arkansas it was also in the largest city within about a 3hr drive radius. I doubt the starting wage has gone up very much since then. Maybe to $10, MAYBE.
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No matter what happens with the CSR aftermath, I think even numb policy-ignorant Americans will not take kindly to Trump actively working to make their healthcare more expensive. Maybe I'm still too optimistic.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:How do? JailTrump posted:How so? Lets assume for a given area a plan that covers 100% of costs is $500 a month. If we use this to estimate premiums for bronze, silver, and gold using their AVs we would get final premiums of Bronze = $500 * 60% = $300 Silver = $500 * 70% = $350 Gold = $500 * 80% = $400 Lets also assume another competitor exists that charges 10% more, so their final premiums are Bronze = $330 Silver = $385 Gold = $440 In this area the second lowest silver plan is $385 a month. Lets say we are at a point under 400% FPL where our affordably monthly premium is $300 a month, which means we would receive $85 a month in subsidies. Our cheapest option would be to buy the Bronze plan paying $300 - $85 = $215 a month. Now, lets say our glorious leader stops CSR payments. Because CSRs only apply to silver plans, when insurers set their rates they will only load up the premiums of silver plans to make up for the loss of CSR payments, Bronze and Gold will remain the same. Lets say insurers calculate they need a 15% increase to Silver to make up for CSRs. Now, the second lowest silver plan is $385 * 115% = $442.75. Because we are under 400% of the FPL, the amount we would pay for this second lowest silver is still fixed at the $300 a month, so our subsidy increases from $85 to $142.75 a month. We can take this $142.75 subsidy and still apply it to the cheapest Bronze plan at $300 a month for a total net premium of $157.25, which is significantly lower than the $215 a month we were paying for this plan prior. This is caused by the APTC (premium subsidies) and CSRs calculations being tied exclusively to Silver plans. If the premium subsidies were set to a Bronze or Gold plan this wouldn't happen.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Guys, we are looking at leaks bigly incorrect How can you be this dense? He didn't take a hard line, he complained about looking weak because those countries wouldn't let him have his hard line
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Gnossiennes posted:I'm guessing this is sarcastic i have this odd memory of 2008 having some vaguely negative economic issues that might be relevant here
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funkymonks posted:He lost NH so that part isn't true. Not if you don't count the millions of illegal votes.
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Sloober posted:personally i get zero satisfaction from the internet. none. none at all.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:That's the exact article I read! I like "virtue signaling" "Virtue signaling" is almost exclusively used by alt-right shitheads, and isn't a matter of slacktivism but a cynical accusation that someone doesn't actually believe in the things they say they do.
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the black husserl posted:No matter what happens with the CSR aftermath, I think even numb policy-ignorant Americans will not take kindly to Trump actively working to make their healthcare more expensive. It could possibly raise the cost of a silver plan but then not effect the price of gold and bronze plans while increasing the dollar amount of subsidies. It would be one of those things that if you did it, it may "backfire" and actually end up allowing more people to be insured and cost the government more money.
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BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:That's the exact article I read! I like "virtue signaling" Jesus Christ, don't ever say "virtue signalling" ever. That is up there with "white genocide" for words poo poo people say.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-epa-reverses-decision-to-delay-smog-rule-after-lawsuits/ar-AApmfiTquote:The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reversed a decision to delay an Obama-era rule requiring states to curb smog-causing emissions, one day after 15 states sued the agency over the move.
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evilweasel posted:i have this odd memory of 2008 having some vaguely negative economic issues that might be relevant here Well, Trump wasn't President.
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"virtue signalling" is a lazy phrase used to insult someone for not being as much of a shithead as you are.
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B B posted:Not if you don't count the billions of illegal votes. FTFY
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Oh man. Please announce on TV that you are dramatically increasing insurance costs which will fall disproportionately on people in the very state you're announcing it in. Let them be ground zero. Burn down your support from the inside out.
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Lote posted:It could possibly raise the cost of a silver plan but then not effect the price of gold and bronze plans while increasing the dollar amount of subsidies. It would be one of those things that if you did it, it may "backfire" and actually end up allowing more people to be insured and cost the government more money. Right but I'm saying the effects don't matter as much as Trump going on national television and saying "I just acted to take away your healthcare money! Obamacare is destroyed. Do you love me yet??" It might backfire but Trump doesn't know that, clearly. He's probably just going to announce some bullshit Jobs Are Actually Very Good nonsense act though. marshmonkey posted:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-epa-reverses-decision-to-delay-smog-rule-after-lawsuits/ar-AApmfiT This is amazing. I am super happy about this and so are my grandparents lungs.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Oh man. Please announce on TV that you are dramatically increasing insurance costs which will fall disproportionately on people in the very state you're announcing it in. Let them be ground zero. Burn down your support from the inside out. Are you kidding, there won't be a single person among that crowd who wouldn't suckle from his back-teat greedily. They'd love him for it.
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the black husserl posted:Right but I'm saying the effects don't matter as much as Trump going on national television and saying "I just acted to take away your healthcare money! Obamacare is destroyed. Do you love me yet??" He's going to go on national televsision and say "If the out of touch senators won't protect the American people from the failing Obamacare I'll just have to do it myself!" and people will cheer for him just like they cheer every time he lies.
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BlueberryCanary posted:Please let this be nothing He's going to unzip himself to reveal that he's been four angry raccoons stacked atop one-another the whole time. His base will quickly rally around this new information and sales of coonskin hats will quadruple. The irony of this will be labeled "fake news."
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Lamuella posted:"virtue signalling" is a lazy phrase used to insult someone for not being as much of a shithead as you are. I like replacing it with "shaming" and seeing if and how the meaning changes.
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Lamuella posted:"virtue signalling" is a lazy phrase used to insult someone for not being as much of a shithead as you are. More specifically "virtue signalling' is the claim that when people are good or don't hate black people that they really actually do hate black people and are actually not good but just want to say they are to get SWJ points from saying it. It's a phrase based on lovely opinions of stuff like "we all hate jews, but some cucks learned to jerk each other over saying they don't"
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