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For some reason I only post in this thread when it's about Marcus Hutchins (@MalwareTechBlog) but it sure looks like he just got blackbagged by the FBI https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/893145496788795392
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Moatman posted:For some reason I only post in this thread when it's about Marcus Hutchins (@MalwareTechBlog) but it sure looks like he just got blackbagged by the FBI USA is scary.
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Moatman posted:For some reason I only post in this thread when it's about Marcus Hutchins (@MalwareTechBlog) but it sure looks like he just got blackbagged by the FBI .....
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https://twitter.com/MabbsSec/status/893166585736724481 No word on charges.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:01
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That is god-drat terrifying.
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I'm glad they've managed to at least figure out where he is. Doesn't make this any less insane though.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:11
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/03/researcher-who-stopped-wannacry-ransomware-detained-in-usquote:According to an indictment released by the US Department of Justice on Thursday, Hutchins is accused of having helped to create, spread and maintain the banking trojan Kronos between 2014 and 2015.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:42
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Diva Cupcake posted:https://twitter.com/MabbsSec/status/893166585736724481 holy poo poo!!!
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Aug 3, 2017 19:49
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DEF CON needs to leave the USA ASAP. Wonder if they could get it done by next year.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:52
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Here's the indictment. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3912520-Marcus-Hutchinson-Indictment.html
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Aug 3, 2017 19:52
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If that's all true, not particularly bright of him to be traveling to the US.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:55
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Diva Cupcake posted:Here's the indictment. The document was saying he was helping to update and sell the malware. That needs to be cleared up first before I can condone or not his behavior and treatment.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:56
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Twerk from Home posted:DEF CON needs to leave the USA ASAP. Wonder if they could get it done by next year.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:56
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Twerk from Home posted:DEF CON needs to leave the USA ASAP. Wonder if they could get it done by next year. You're going to love DEFCON china then!
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anthonypants posted:If Def Con moved to a country that didn't have extradition rights to the west, do you think people would still go? Do you think feds still wouldn't catch people who went? More attendees would vanish probably.
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Aug 3, 2017 20:01
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DefCon 2018 - Belarus Edition!
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Internet Explorer posted:If that's all true, not particularly bright of him to be traveling to the US. More or less, the US has a long memory and a dim view of this kind of thing.
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Aug 3, 2017 20:10
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That indictment. Well, we aren't going to see poo poo on this for months
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Aug 3, 2017 20:12
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Nice of the UK press to doxx him after WannaCry, like the FBI needed the help.
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Aug 3, 2017 20:25
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"Anyone got a kronos sample?" --@MalwareTechBlog, 13 Jul 2014
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anthonypants posted:If Def Con moved to a country that didn't have extradition rights to the west, do you think people would still go? Do you think feds still wouldn't catch people who went? This isn't about the scope of extradition, since he's already from the UK. This is about direct grabbing during a visit, and that would be much less of an issue in any other western country.
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[quote="“Dylan16807”" post="“475011367”"] This isn’t about the scope of extradition, since he’s already from the UK. This is about direct grabbing during a visit, and that would be much less of an issue in any other western country. [/quote] I'm sorry I gave you the benefit of the doubt, I didn't know you were implying that hosting DefCon in a different Five Eyes country would be an improvement.
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Like, what are your options if you move defcon out of the US for security reasons? Scandanavia? Germany and France are probably out. Italy or Greece, maybe? Probably not Greece in its current state.
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They're going to try China, tee hee.
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Aug 3, 2017 23:18
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i hear of good security conferences in germany and belgium
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If you've actually committed a crime, maybe you shouldn't go to a convention that's about stopping the crime you committed.
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Double Punctuation posted:If you've actually committed a crime, maybe you shouldn't go to a convention that's about stopping the crime you committed.
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Double Punctuation posted:If you've actually committed a crime, maybe you shouldn't go to a convention that's about stopping the crime you committed. defcon has really changed huh
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Double Punctuation posted:If you've actually committed a crime, maybe you shouldn't go to a convention that's about stopping the crime you committed. Where do you think you are?
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Double Punctuation posted:If you've actually committed a crime, maybe you shouldn't go to a convention that's about stopping the crime you committed. Thanks to aggressive interpretations of vague computer crime laws you'd be hard pressed to find a security researcher who hasn't at least technically committed a crime. That said assuming these accusations have some merit this isn't exactly a case of a whitehat violating overbroad laws.
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I like how quick we went from "OMG he's been disappeared the USA is the worstest" to "he's literally being held in the exact place you would expect for someone arrested by the FBI in Las Vegas". Twitter remains a stupid as gently caress source of breaking news. Opinions bad. News at 11. E: phone posting spelling fixes 
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apseudonym posted:I like how quick we went from "OMG he's been disappeared the USA is the worstest" to "he's literally being held in the exact place you would expect for someone arrested by the FBI is Las Vegas". Whoa don't be so hasty there. Let's wait for all the facts to come out before we draw conclusions on Twitter and opinions
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Twitter did nothing wrong!
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:i hear of good security conferences in germany and belgium I watch the Chaos Computing Club videos when they go up on youtube and they have a very good hit rate
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Subjunctive posted:They're going to try China, tee hee. Yeah, they've already announced they're going to have a mini-Defcon in Beijing next year. We'll have to see which country has more arrests.
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wolrah posted:Thanks to aggressive interpretations of vague computer crime laws you'd be hard pressed to find a security researcher who hasn't at least technically committed a crime. The flipping charge list is accusing him of helping develop the malware to be better and getting paid for it with the people that were using it for profit. Doing that is not research. Like I said in a previous post, the guy needs to clear up he didn't get stupid and actually do underhanded malware business while working at a company that provides malware security before giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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duz posted:Yeah, they've already announced they're going to have a mini-Defcon in Beijing next year. We'll have to see which country has more arrests. At least in China the US gov't might try to protect you.
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Why not just do it online?
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Guy Axlerod posted:Why not just do it online? That misses half the point of these conferences, which is face-to-face networking and learning.
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Guy Axlerod posted:Why not just do it online? Unlike maybe you and a good chunk of this forum, some of us like to interact with other human beings in a physical sense.
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