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Phobophilia posted:https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/892900307159588865 Blacks Rule
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Where can you download non-Patreon episodes? Thanks.
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The terms of discussion over whether Chavez was a good leader or not frustrates me, because there seems to be an attitude when criticizing socialist governments that they spring fully formed from an earthen womb, and all the history prior to the socialists taking power is wiped clean. The best example of this is Cuba - true, the Castro regime for whatever good it has done is exceptionally repressive and authoritarian. But the comparison is always made between the Castro regime and the democratic west by opponents of the current Cuban regime, never between the Castros and Batista, who on top of being even more repressive and murderous than the Castros also presided over a country where large swathes of people lived in slums, without access to healthcare or education. The same applies to Chavez - the Bolivarian Revolution (under either Maduro or Chavez) is of course not above criticism by any means, but the attacks seem to take a very disingenuous line that societal problems only arose as a result of socialism, not that there were deep problems with the economy, law and order and political corruption for decades before Chavez ever took power. That's without even going into the US's role in meddling in South American affairs for its own benefits. Of course its frustrated to see leftists uncritically go to bat for left-wing regimes and turn a blind eye to abuses, but lets not pretend (like some people are keen to suggest) that Venezuelan politics began on the 6th December 1998 and that everything that occurred before can be conveniently forgotten.
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Heck, before Chavez the rural and more impoverished people were barely a blip on the radar and the most news you got from them was during a flood. At this point the fear is less of "Chavez/Maduro getting disappeared means Socialist in LATAM is gone" and more "Look at Brazil or Honduras to see what is more likely going to happen if they're taken out of power".snoremac posted:Where can you download non-Patreon episodes? Thanks. The soundcloud page for CTH provides under [ ... More ] a mp3 link.
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MikeCrotch posted:The same applies to Chavez - the Bolivarian Revolution (under either Maduro or Chavez) is of course not above criticism by any means, but the attacks seem to take a very disingenuous line that societal problems only arose as a result of socialism, not that there were deep problems with the economy, law and order and political corruption for decades before Chavez ever took power. Which is why honest critique of leftist governments should come from the left, without blame-shifting to the Great Satan and closing eyes. Otherwise, people like Kirchick in that abominable article dominate the conversation and failures of a corrupt government are used to bash socialism in general. (btw what I really like about Jacobin is that it allows discussion and rebuttals on its platform - https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/07/venezuela-elections-chavez-maduro-bolivarianism)
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Aug 3, 2017 11:38
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It should be noted that the opposition also clasped the original piece, which is what prompted Cicciarelo to type the rebuttal in the first place. It's both a strength and weakness of the platform when... every piece is accepted. Sunkara damning Lula Da Silva and that recent Navalny Piece comes to mind. https://twitter.com/Lowenaffchen/status/892494303125262340
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Aug 3, 2017 11:47
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Aug 3, 2017 12:12
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That Navalny piece is good because as terrible as that dude is (clueless liberal with strong nationalist tendencies), he is the only game in town, who manages a real activist network and brought wealth inequality topic and anti-corruption message into Russian political discourse after years of unfocused opposition from idiots. Which is why socialist groups already join protests organized by him instead of withering in atomized cells and shitposting. Like, for comparison, another large opposition org, Open Russia, founded by ex-oligarch Khodorkovsky, nominally liberal and doing some civil rights legal defense work , more than often functions as welfare for nationalists of all sorts, including a dude who participated in a neo-nazi terrorist group BORN. Of course, American leftists don't grasp the hosed-up state of Russian politics, don't know what to offer and would rather read hot takes from sex tourist Mark Ames.
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oh man we really should have thought about this before using a turn of phrase popularized by noted "dudebro" @dril
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Aug 3, 2017 13:59
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Giordano seems like a guy with very few years left. It's kind of a shame he's going to spend them being an embarrassment on twitter.
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Aug 3, 2017 13:59
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I have no idea what his current health status is but he does post like someone with chemo brain for sure
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Aug 3, 2017 14:03
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:oh man we really should have thought about this before using a turn of phrase popularized by noted "dudebro" @dril it's "bend the knee" 2.0 but with misinterpreting a dril tweet
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Aug 3, 2017 14:14
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this lib "faking outrage so i can complain to ur manager" thing is getting real tired. pretty soon they are going to start parsing words down to their latin roots so they can use etymology to feign offense.
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Aug 3, 2017 14:17
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Is he seriously still planning to run against Bernie
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Aug 3, 2017 14:23
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:oh man we really should have thought about this before using a turn of phrase popularized by noted "dudebro" @dril https://twitter.com/dril/status/893002574957248512
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Aug 3, 2017 15:14
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I'm just so sick of the term dudebro.
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Aug 3, 2017 15:20
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The_Rob posted:I'm just so sick of the term dudebro. Indeed. The whole of the #Resistance is claiming criticism of liberals is that racist BernieBros are at it again. They've loving learned nothing.
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Aug 3, 2017 15:22
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They're still shrieking for The Manager of the resurgent left to belly up to the counter so they can complain about the rude service they're getting.
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Aug 3, 2017 15:29
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FlamingLiberal posted:Is he seriously still planning to run against Bernie
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Dropped that a few months ago for "health reasons", the reasonable centrists recently got behind another challenger who was then revealed to be a Trump supporting stoner who was pranking/grifting them. Are you talking about the racist guy?
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Aug 3, 2017 17:03
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fatherboxx posted:Of course, American leftists don't grasp the hosed-up state of Russian politics, don't know what to offer and would rather read hot takes from sex tourist Mark Ames. GalacticAcid posted:Giordano seems like a guy with very few years left. It's kind of a shame he's going to spend them being an embarrassment on twitter. FlamingLiberal posted:Is he seriously still planning to run against Bernie
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Aug 3, 2017 17:16
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Halloween Jack posted:I still don't know what to make of Matt Taibbi's career in Russia. Is he a serial rapist? I don't know much about Taibbi himself, but he was perfectly fine being buddy buddy with Ames and writing in the same publications where Ames describes the vaginal tightness of a 15 year old sex worker and threatening to kill a woman in order to coerce her into getting an abortion. As far as I'm concerned Ames is an irredeemable scumbag, and it reflects poorly on Taibbi to have associated and worked with him uncritically. Whether the quality of his analysis is of greater consequence than this, hard to say. I thought his perspectives were interesting before hearing about his past, but I don't think there's anything unique or irreplaceable about his takes that would absolutely compel looking past his history.
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Mr. Lobe posted:I don't know much about Taibbi himself, but he was perfectly fine being buddy buddy with Ames and writing in the same publications where Ames describes the vaginal tightness of a 15 year old sex worker and threatening to kill a woman in order to coerce her into getting an abortion. As far as I'm concerned Ames is an irredeemable scumbag, and it reflects poorly on Taibbi to have associated and worked with him uncritically. fwiw taibbi stopped talking to ames years ago and seems vaguely embarrassed by that phase of his career
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Aug 3, 2017 17:48
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"Vaguely embarrassed" is about right. He once threw coffee at a Vanity Fair interviewer who asked him about it. He hasn't really owned it in a meaningful way, which sucks
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Aug 3, 2017 18:52
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I got the feeling they were both doing a shitload of coke and speed together for a long time.
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Famethrowa posted:"Vaguely embarrassed" is about right. He once threw coffee at a Vanity Fair interviewer who asked him about it. He did throw coffee, but the context was the interviewer telling him that he didn't think their book was good. My impression for a long time has been that Ames and Taibbi had a bad break at some point that Taibbi regrets but isn't willing to talk to Ames about, probably out of pride or whatever.
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Aug 3, 2017 19:20
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suffice to say, he should own up to exactly what he did in russia (probably some bad poo poo but it's not 100% clear what is true and what is bullshit made up by Ames) but maybe it's a stretch to immediately condemn him as a "serial rapist"
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Aug 3, 2017 19:26
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Aug 3, 2017 19:50
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Moist von Lipwig posted:I got the feeling they were both doing a shitload of coke and speed together for a long time. Taibbi was very into heroin at that point in his life if I recall correctly.
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SousaphoneColossus posted:suffice to say, he should own up to exactly what he did in russia (probably some bad poo poo but it's not 100% clear what is true and what is bullshit made up by Ames) but maybe it's a stretch to immediately condemn him as a "serial rapist" I got the feeling that he was doing some Hunter S Thompson poo poo and just trying to upset people but I really don't know nor care tbh
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Aug 3, 2017 20:01
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Thermite posted:Taibbi was very into heroin at that point in his life if I recall correctly. Always a recipe for good decision making
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Aug 3, 2017 20:02
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coathat posted:I don't care.
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Aug 3, 2017 20:23
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https://twitter.com/byyourlogic/status/893177898013782016 What the gently caress universe do these people live in
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Aug 3, 2017 20:53
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/byyourlogic/status/893177898013782016 I mean, Joy Ann Reid accused 90% of Bernie voters of going for Trump in the general, so yeah.
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Aug 3, 2017 20:58
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Love hearing from my not-online friends 
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Aug 3, 2017 21:01
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Thaddius the Large posted:I mean, Joy Ann Reid accused 90% of Bernie voters of going for Trump in the general, so yeah. She was trying to say 10% but hosed it up
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