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hagie posted:What exactly is the "earth" element spell in FFXII? I see it on wolves and such, but realized I have never seen a stone or anything like that There isn't one, it's entirely weapon-based.
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Artelier posted:Necrohol of Nabudis is completely, 100% optional. I'm loving around with Reddas in my party since I'm about to go to Pharos and I think that's a point of no return? Just doing hunts and some espers, trying to get better weapons. In that vein, if I've got a shikari/breaker as my A team tank/melee guy, are daggers my better option for the evade boost? I haven't even found any ninja swords.
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Aug 4, 2017 01:25
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Pharos isn't really a point of no return iirc, just really really long. You do however lose Reddas at the end. If you haven't gone there at all, go until the gold crystal, that unlocks some hunts i think? Then the next trigger is completion of Pharos. Going off memory though, might be off. I'm at the same point you are , finishing up most (not tedious) hunts that are available before climbing the tower and getting most espers. If you want to tank, easiest option atm should be giving the shikari your best shield plus main gauche, which you can buy in jahara.
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Aug 4, 2017 01:31
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Artelier posted:Pharos isn't really a point of no return iirc, just really really long. You do however lose Reddas at the end. If you haven't gone there at all, go until the gold crystal, that unlocks some hunts i think? Then the next trigger is completion of Pharos. Going off memory though, might be off. Thanks, that's good to know. I know main gauche has tons of evade, but I'm more thinking for general use dps/tank hybrid purposes. Plus I want to try for some ultimate weapons!
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Aug 4, 2017 01:36
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The overall problem with FF13's tutorial is that the game itself doesn't motivate you to play it properly. Most fights don't have a failure condition for taking too long, so you could very easily sit in COM/SEN/MED mashing X and beat every fight in the early game. But that takes forever and is really boring. Then you actually run into a fight with a DPS check (Barthandalus) and you fail because you've never had a reason to actually care about your DPS until that point.
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Aug 4, 2017 01:39
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Emron posted:I'm loving around with Reddas in my party since I'm about to go to Pharos and I think that's a point of no return? Just doing hunts and some espers, trying to get better weapons. Pharos isn't the point of no return, but completing it will kick Reddas out of your party so you may as well get some stuff done while you have an extra target/Arise caster running around with you.
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Fister Roboto posted:The overall problem with FF13's tutorial is that the game itself doesn't motivate you to play it properly. Most fights don't have a failure condition for taking too long, so you could very easily sit in COM/SEN/MED mashing X and beat every fight in the early game. But that takes forever and is really boring. Then you actually run into a fight with a DPS check (Barthandalus) and you fail because you've never had a reason to actually care about your DPS until that point. It's funny, on my first run I remember Bart 1 being an absolute nightmare because he has this super move that also resets his Stagger gauge On my second run, I demolished him pretty easily (only got 3 stars though but that beats the no stars I got originally) because you can somehow knock him out of doing that move which I never managed to do before. My problem was never realizing the power of SAB, both in terms of debuffs and slowing the Stagger gauge. I learned about that online after my first run of XIII. I guess the Scalebeasts are supposed to be your tutorial on that but they are completely optional. Overall I did a lot better on my second run, although still couldn't beat Orphan without Poison.
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Ventana posted:Yeah that too of course, though I'd still like showing resistance %'s if you're already going to have a Scan/Libra page. FF8 showed elemental weaknesses with Scan. In a few cases it literally told you "This monster is weak vs (element)".
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Barudak posted:I loved the update on this that was the new company going "we have to start from scratch. Our plan is to deliver on the promuse of Matsuno single player strategy game" which gives me a thirst to know exactly what was done previously. My understanding is they did a bunch of work on sp before pivoting in a panic to not run out of $
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Emron posted:Thanks, that's good to know. I know main gauche has tons of evade, but I'm more thinking for general use dps/tank hybrid purposes. Plus I want to try for some ultimate weapons! Something about this game is you have to choose somewhat between tank and dps. The Tournesol, the ultimate greatsword, has pretty great evasion for a two handed weapon, along with a good combo rate and ridiculous power. It's very time-intensive to get all the ingredients though. If you want to sell your soul to the devil though, the Seitengrat bow is so powerful that it makes the Zodiac Spear look like a useless stick. In addition, it grants 75 evasion. Another option is the ultimate shield, which I can't remember the name of. It grants 95 evasion, with complete immunity to every element. Pair this with the ultimate katana (which is inexplicably one-handed) and you have exactly what you're asking for. However both of these are invisible and lame as gently caress, in addition to requiring you to study videos to master frame-perfect RNG to get them. In actuality, FF12 Zodiac provides a much more focused experience than OG FF12, albeit one that requires you to make choices and not create omnipotent gods.
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Using Decoy on your main gauche user is still the most heroic combo in the game though.
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So I was exploring and I got almost all the Espers and then an area opened in the Henne Mines and SUDDENLY I'M FIGHTING THIS rear end in a top hat ZODIARK OMG HOW QUICKLY HE THROWS UP THOSE PALINGS HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT HIM I may be a tad under leveled for this, my Penelo is 58, my Balthier is 51 and everyone else is lower...but seriously, I can get him into the last phase and then he's just immune almost forever? The interval between palings seem random, once it took like a whole minute and I got him to maybe 3 more Scathes, the latest run he just put it up the next turn he got twice in a row and I didn't even come close to the first try. And the physical one never seems to go down?
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Artelier posted:So I was exploring and I got almost all the Espers and then an area opened in the Henne Mines and SUDDENLY I'M FIGHTING THIS rear end in a top hat ZODIARK OMG HOW QUICKLY HE THROWS UP THOSE PALINGS HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT HIM he is immune to physical attacks forever and immune to magic attacks most of the time and yes you're just supposed to wait for it to drop and then have everyone cast scathe in that brief moment. save your quickenings for that point too because they aren't affected by palings,
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Artelier posted:So I was exploring and I got almost all the Espers and then an area opened in the Henne Mines and SUDDENLY I'M FIGHTING THIS rear end in a top hat ZODIARK OMG HOW QUICKLY HE THROWS UP THOSE PALINGS HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT HIM get three physical weapons users with great weapons bravery haste berserk send one dope in solo to get killed by darkja when it says "select a new team" you swap in your big burly boys to pound zodiark into the stone age before it can cast a single paling
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Aug 4, 2017 03:53
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corn in the bible posted:he is immune to physical attacks forever and immune to magic attacks most of the time and yes you're just supposed to wait for it to drop and then have everyone cast scathe in that brief moment. save your quickenings for that point too because they aren't affected by palings, Nice, will try the Quickening strat. Any tips for Darkja? I assume it's Dark element but I have no immune or absorption to it atm. I have some halving equipment but it does enough damage that the people that can equip them die anyway. My tank Balthier with Bubble (9999) tanks it...sometimes. And other times he dies from full health? Is the damage variance that high or am I just missing something? Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:get three physical weapons users with great weapons Haha I don't think my level/damage output is high enough for this but I'll give it a shot anyway and yes I've been sacrificing Basch to Zodiarc every time, the fate of all Monk/Archers!
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If I'm not mistaken, not only did scan show status effect weakness in FFX, it also showed if they were immune to break attacks. Speaking of which, I just finished X. I need a little clarification, what is exactly is Tidus again? My interpretation was that his Zanarkand was basically like a summon from the fayth, and he came with it. The fayth basically said "gently caress it, we're tired of dreaming, kill yu yevon" and him being a good guy and wanting to save Yuna's world went along with it. Still not sure how Auron got there though.
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seiferguy posted:If I'm not mistaken, not only did scan show status effect weakness in FFX, it also showed if they were immune to break attacks. Tidus was basically being summoned by the fayth in the same way that Dream Zanarkand itself was. AFAIK Auron's ability to go to and from Dream Zanarkand was left intentionally ambiguous; I think there's reason to believe that, since Dream Zanarkand was a place that literally existed somewhere on Spira, Auron just figured out where it was and was able to take a ship there or whatever. Alternatively, it's because he's an unsent and they had some special ability.
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It's a special power that comes with being over 30 in a JRPG
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Sakurazuka posted:It's a special power that comes with being over 30 in a JRPG Truly a rarity
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I'm thinking of starting a new FFXII:ZA game with the gimmick that I won't use any offensive magic. Right now the party I have planned is: Vaan: Shikari/Foebreaker (ninja swords, debuffer) Penelo: White Mage/Machinist (guns, healbot) Balthier: Uhlan/Bushi (spears, access to White Robes + Holy Lance) Fran: Monk/Time Mage (poles, access to haste in midgame) Basch: Shikari/Bushi (Katanas, access to Black Robes + Yagyu Darkblade) Ashe: Knight/Bushi (greatswords, access to White Robes + Excalibur) Thoughts?
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seiferguy posted:If I'm not mistaken, not only did scan show status effect weakness in FFX, it also showed if they were immune to break attacks. It was a very nice touch of X that it said IMMUNE to certain things so you knew right away it just didn't work instead of wondering if the status effect just missed. Also Auron tells you he hitched a ride on Sin. Auron: "Don't make that face. Being dead has its advantages. I was able to ride Sin and go to your Zanarkand." Sin is how everyone gets from Dream Zanarkand to the rest of Spira because Plot.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I'm thinking of starting a new FFXII:ZA game with the gimmick that I won't use any offensive magic. Right now the party I have planned is: I hope you are prepared to farm for Motes
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Aug 4, 2017 06:02
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WaltherFeng posted:I hope you are prepared to farm for Motes Are there any bottlenecks I'm not thinking of that can't be dealt with using elemental weapons?
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I'm thinking of starting a new FFXII:ZA game with the gimmick that I won't use any offensive magic. Right now the party I have planned is: you'll do fine but be insanely bored for the entire game so my thought is don't because that's stupid
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Aug 4, 2017 06:18
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corn in the bible posted:you'll do fine but be insanely bored for the entire game so my thought is don't because that's stupid I find 0.5-player games insanely satisfying so that's kind of the idea
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Are there any bottlenecks I'm not thinking of that can't be dealt with using elemental weapons? yeah, every boss past 2/3 or so has a physical paling at some point so please enjoy spamming knot of rusts forever
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Spam my rust knot
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corn in the bible posted:yeah, every boss past 2/3 or so has a physical paling at some point so please enjoy spamming knot of rusts forever Do elemental weapons and ammo not work against physical palings?
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do elemental weapons and ammo not work against physical palings? those are physical attacks so they are blocked
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do elemental weapons and ammo not work against physical palings? in vanilla 12, not even quickenings worked against physical palings
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corn in the bible posted:those are physical attacks so they are blocked Well that's what Shades of Black is for then 
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Aug 4, 2017 06:47
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Well that's what Shades of Black is for then tfw u cast poison, and then blizzard, which the boss absorbs, and then poison again, and then blizzaga
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Would messing with the battle speed help with Zodiark? Just musing for game plan ideas for when I get time to play later grrrr
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Aug 4, 2017 06:50
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in ff12 you should always have battle speed at max because the later bosses all get instant-cast skills and on lower speeds you'll be outraced easily. other things like doom and the demonwall also work separately from battle-speed
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corn in the bible posted:in ff12 you should always have battle speed at max because the later bosses all get instant-cast skills and on lower speeds you'll be outraced easily. other things like doom and the demonwall also work separately from battle-speed That's dumb. I max battle speed anyway. But still that's dumb
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So if I were to ask which is the best FF sequel, am I correct in assuming most responses would be X-2 or Lightning Returns? Just curious. It probably won't be Dirge of Cerberus or The After Years. But what of Crisis Core or Revenant Wings or Tactics Advance? (does that count? Maybe TA2?)
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Crisis Core was fairly fun but limited by being on the PSP, Revenant Wings is about what you'd expect from a DS RTS by people who'd never made one before, the Tactics Advance games are okay but I hate the law system and I miss the 'real' Ivalice story instead of the imaginary world one in those.
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TA2 is real Ivalice I'm pretty sure.
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It's been long enough that 1 & 2 kinda run together in my head
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