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Zuul the Cat posted:Huh. Warhammer 40,000 over on facebook just posted this teaser video, which shows this image fading in then out. No this is the Imperial-Nob Aquila of the lost 2nd Primarch who landed on an Ork world and united all the Digganobs, then the Orks as supreme Primork.
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Aug 3, 2017 21:39
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SteelMentor posted:Can't help but feel the allusions to Necromunda in WD were referring to that video game adaptation they announced a year ago. WD is pretty poo poo at promoting video games, Dawn of War III, which was kind of a big deal release, got like one page. They were looking to hire Specialist Games folks a while back, so I could see Necromunda coming back, with Shadow War either being a way to gauge interest or fill an emtpy slot in the release schedule. As for that image of the skull aquila, I have no clue what it means but it looks cool. Doubt that's Necromunda related though, there's not much in the way of explicitly Imperial imagery there.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:01
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DoW3 only got a page because it was bad and deserves to burn in hell.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:02
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could be Armageddon related? That would combine most (?) of the things in the video: heavy industry sounds, orks, and the imperium. Ideally, it's a teaser Codex Ork Mercenaries, and that's the badge the orcs wear.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:04
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Is starting a Guard army a fool's errand? I'm on the verge of buying back in to 8th (after selling everything a few years ago) and IG are calling my name. And Tau to a lesser degree.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:09
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:could be Armageddon related? That would combine most (?) of the things in the video: heavy industry sounds, orks, and the imperium. In all honesty yeah, this looks like an image to tease Armageddon conflict stuff. But it would be rad as poo poo if the upcoming Astra Militarum codex had an entry for Blood Axes.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:12
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EdsTeioh posted:Is starting a Guard army a fool's errand? I'm on the verge of buying back in to 8th (after selling everything a few years ago) and IG are calling my name. And Tau to a lesser degree. Guard is super good right now. Like won BAO good.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:16
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Naramyth posted:Guard is super good right now. Like won BAO good. I've got a Russ Exterminator laying around; was gonna grab 2 Start Collecting boxes with some store credit and maybe a Command Squad. That should give me...oh, about...150 points hahahaha. EDIT: I just looked up the BAO results...top 2 were Guard AND Tau in the top 4? Nuts; I figured Primaris and DG were wiping the floor with everything. EdsTeioh fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 3, 2017 |
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Aug 3, 2017 22:30
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EdsTeioh posted:I've got a Russ Exterminator laying around; was gonna grab 2 Start Collecting boxes with some store credit and maybe a Command Squad. That should give me...oh, about...150 points hahahaha. Primaris are actual trash. Deathguard are some expensive marines and some overpriced zombies I guess? I'm certainly not worried about them.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:37
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Naramyth posted:Primaris are actual trash. Deathguard are some expensive marines and some overpriced zombies I guess? I'm certainly not worried about them. What's bad about Primaris? Legit asking; haven't played any 8th yet outside of watching some friends.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:43
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EdsTeioh posted:What's bad about Primaris? Legit asking; haven't played any 8th yet outside of watching some friends. They're currently about half of an army, and a lot of what they do smallmarines can often do better. A lot of us like thinking through Primaris armies for thought exercises or good looking models, but their lack of anti-armor, cheap transports, and squad flexibility hurts them a lot.
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I just want to say that if you play Death Guard, and if you play Typhus/Necrosius Poxwalker spam you're a bad person and deserve nothing but scorn.
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The big issue with marines generally and primaris in particular is that they are elite armies in an edition that thus far seems to slightly favor hordes. While I can't speak for tournament play, in casual play things feel relatively balanced to me. I've thus far played Orks, Necrons and other another marine army as my Blood Angels and each matchup has felt pretty close.
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Aug 3, 2017 22:53
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The Bee posted:They're currently about half of an army, and a lot of what they do smallmarines can often do better. A lot of us like thinking through Primaris armies for thought exercises or good looking models, but their lack of anti-armor, cheap transports, and squad flexibility hurts them a lot. So what is their current role in the game? Mixed in with smallmarines as some kind of SuperElite?
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EdsTeioh posted:What's bad about Primaris? Legit asking; haven't played any 8th yet outside of watching some friends. The Bee posted:They're currently about half of an army, and a lot of what they do smallmarines can often do better. A lot of us like thinking through Primaris armies for thought exercises or good looking models, but their lack of anti-armor, cheap transports, and squad flexibility hurts them a lot. Having played like 6-7 games with a mostly primaris army against largely WAAC bastards the lack of anti armour really is the big problem. Stuff having massively long range helps a lot with the limited mobility and I've only had 1-2 games where their melee capability didnt become relevant. hopefully a repulsor and remembering to bring aux grenade launchers next time will help a bit but honestly I need krak melta and las to solve things. I managed to take 12 wounds off a land raider on turn one through my librarian smite spamming and overcharging hellblasters in the captains aura but they're both somewhat squishy.
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EdsTeioh posted:So what is their current role in the game? Mixed in with smallmarines as some kind of SuperElite? For now GW seems to want to keep them completely off of Marine niches, but I think proper Devastator squads would help a lot.
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Aug 3, 2017 23:21
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:In all honesty yeah, this looks like an image to tease Armageddon conflict stuff. But it would be rad as poo poo if the upcoming Astra Militarum codex had an entry for Blood Axes. That would be too badass if they had Blood Axe as an option for Guard again. Hell, I'd accept Human "Mercenaries" for an Ork armies.
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Aug 3, 2017 23:35
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The Bee posted:For now GW seems to want to keep them completely off of Marine niches, but I think proper Devastator squads would help a lot. Yeah. The Hellblasters are closer to specialist squads than actual heavy weapons, but if this is what GW has put out for the Codex then I wouldn't expect more anytime soon.
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Aug 3, 2017 23:40
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yeah. The Hellblasters are closer to specialist squads than actual heavy weapons, but if this is what GW has put out for the Codex then I wouldn't expect more anytime soon. Who knows, the primaris character transfers already gave away there being a lieutenant kit and the overlords still lurking somewhere, theres always other things possible.
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Aug 3, 2017 23:45
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:In all honesty yeah, this looks like an image to tease Armageddon conflict stuff. But it would be rad as poo poo if the upcoming Astra Militarum codex had an entry for Blood Axes. I was also thinking that featuring the Steel Legion in the World Eaters promo shot could point to some inclusion in the near future.
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Artum posted:Who knows, the primaris character transfers already gave away there being a lieutenant kit and the overlords still lurking somewhere, theres always other things possible. On a related note, it's some serious bullshit that the new kits only come with Ultramarines transfers.
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Artum posted:Who knows, the primaris character transfers already gave away there being a lieutenant kit and the overlords still lurking somewhere, theres always other things possible. Sure, and GW has already shown that they don't give a poo poo about what's in their $50 book, so they could very well release a brand new kit tomorrow. I just don't think it's likely.
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After digging out my old 1k of Necrons...dammit, I'm back on the Egyptian Terminator Wagon. Rolling for RP every single turn is absolutely brutal. 20 warriors and a cryptek just cannot be shifted unless you direct all your fire at them.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:After digging out my old 1k of Necrons...dammit, I'm back on the Egyptian Terminator Wagon. This was my experience playing against Orks, RP and a Cryptek makes the big block basically impossible to shift. Lychguard with Warscythes are insanely good too.
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Aug 4, 2017 01:39
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Don't feel like the new codex is worth it in paper form. Too much to change and add. The appendix are fine but in leery of the rest.
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Guys, I hosed up. My options are to either sculpt lots of grubs to fill the base or hide the edges with scenery gravel. "Each one is, uh, a much bigger swarm emerging from the ground!" 
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Finally got my Dark Imperium box, gonna use the Death Guard as one of my main armies and I'll keep the Primaris around for shits and giggles So is the SPESS MAREEN codex fully out yet or what Also when is the HERETIC ASSTARTS coming out
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goose willis posted:Finally got my Dark Imperium box, gonna use the Death Guard as one of my main armies and I'll keep the Primaris around for shits and giggles SM is out. CSM and Grey Knights August 12th.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yeah. The Hellblasters are closer to specialist squads than actual heavy weapons, but if this is what GW has put out for the Codex then I wouldn't expect more anytime soon. i doubt the sm codex would keep them from releasing a primaris codex in a few months once theyve got enough big boy kits in the hopper
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Aug 4, 2017 02:21
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Do note that Death Guard are not in the new CSM codex but i would not be surprised if its the very next one released.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Do note that Death Guard are not in the new CSM codex but i would not be surprised if its the very next one released. It is, they already told us that.
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Aug 4, 2017 02:37
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Primaris aren't that bad, especially if you mix them with small marines. Even the intercessors have a point. Why? They are bigger. I have found that if I am aggressive with my Primaris, they draw more fire than my more useful squat marines. Which is pretty drat useful.
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Aug 4, 2017 02:52
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What do skutarii play like? Like what do they do?
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Aug 4, 2017 03:06
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!Klams posted:What do skutarii play like? Like what do they do? You shoot, you shoot pretty good.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:i doubt the sm codex would keep them from releasing a primaris codex in a few months once theyve got enough big boy kits in the hopper That's probably true.
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Started working on Vulture #1 tonight, definitely need to pin the rear legs on the thing. I hope to have both assembled by this weekend. Also, Ryza pattern lasguns look so amazing on a mkIV marine.
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SteelMentor posted:You shoot, you shoot pretty good. Are they any different from space marines or necrons?
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SteelMentor posted:I just want to say that if you play Death Guard, and if you play Typhus/Necrosius Poxwalker spam you're a bad person and deserve nothing but scorn. What? Why? They're not even a real faction yet. They have almost zero real options. Don't understand where this would come from.
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