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Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

There's like 13 different versions of the Question and they're all pretty drat great.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Johnny Lee Miller should play the Question.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Conspiracy theorist/Rorschach-esque JLU Question is probably the most popular, but I could see Arrow going with Denny O'Neil's Zen master martial artist version who teamed up with Green Arrow in the late '80s a lot, especially since they have been influenced by so much of O'Neil's other work with the League of Assassins, etc.

I love the Question, but I've always had a soft spot for Rick Veitch's creepy urban shaman version. It would also be cool if they got Jim Caviezel to play Vic Sage, since Michael Emerson is also joining the cast this season.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Conspiracy theorist/Rorschach-esque JLU Question is probably the most popular, but I could see Arrow going with Denny O'Neil's Zen master martial artist version who teamed up with Green Arrow in the late '80s a lot, especially since they have been influenced by so much of O'Neil's other work with the League of Assassins, etc.

I love the Question, but I've always had a soft spot for Rick Veitch's creepy urban shaman version. It would also be cool if they got Jim Caviezel to play Vic Sage, since Michael Emerson is also joining the cast this season.

If they can get Constantine back, they could do their own version of the Trenchcoat Brigade

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


They've announced how the crossover is going to work this year. Starting Nov 27th with Supergirl with Arrow on right after and then the next day with Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. They also said that the Supergirl episode will actually be integrated this time.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

And I missed this news earlier, but they're moving Arrow to Thursday's at 8 for some reason.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

Wheat Loaf posted:

Johnny Lee Miller should play the Question.

we don't live in a world that beautiful

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wheat Loaf posted:

Johnny Lee Miller should play the Question.

Vic Sage is supposed to look like a local news guy

Crunk Abortion
Mar 5, 2009

Young based lord and I look like JESUS

Aphrodite posted:

Not when it's a real language and the guy using it doesn't know what he's talking about.

Are you the kind of douche who pronounces Mötley Crüe phonetically

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I don't do meth so the opportunity to actually say Motley Crue out loud has never come up.

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum
It's true that many of the versions of the Question are great, but I think the JLU version was probably the best. It could work really well mixed in with the TV news anchor version, I think. Just so long as he's insufferable.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I've got it: live-action take on DCAU Question, played by David Duchovny.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

As long as he plays his character from Twin Peaks.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

OB_Juan posted:

It's true that many of the versions of the Question are great, but I think the JLU version was probably the best. It could work really well mixed in with the TV news anchor version, I think. Just so long as he's insufferable.

Save the newscaster character for Jack Ryder/The Creeper. Just let The Question be The Question.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Xelkelvos posted:

Save the newscaster character for Jack Ryder/The Creeper. Just let The Question be The Question.

The Question Is a newscaster! You just want the DCAU version, which is unlike he's ever been portrayed in the comics.

Save the cartoon joke character for Jack Ryder/The Creeper. Just let The Question be The Question

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer
If they're doing The Question, the season's big bad needs to be aglets.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
If they're doing the Question the season's big bads need to be poverty and the fact that it's impossible to solve crime by punching criminals. An actual comics-accurate Question would be the perfect foil for Mayor Queen, and force the show to go back to at least the level of social consciousness it was at in the first season, where the bad guys were rich people who wanted to kill poor people.

Goddamnit, That loving Justice League cartoon ruined The Question and John Stewart. Who had been two of DC's best, most complex characters until they were completely changed to fit a Saturday morning cartoon and that became the only version people knew about.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Guy Goodbody posted:

If they're doing the Question the season's big bads need to be poverty and the fact that it's impossible to solve crime by punching criminals. An actual comics-accurate Question would be the perfect foil for Mayor Queen, and force the show to go back to at least the level of social consciousness it was at in the first season, where the bad guys were rich people who wanted to kill poor people.

Goddamnit, That loving Justice League cartoon ruined The Question and John Stewart. Who had been two of DC's best, most complex characters until they were completely changed to fit a Saturday morning cartoon and that became the only version people knew about.

Please tell more about Jon Stewart! He was one of the few black heroes I never got into. What was different in comics vs JLU and such?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

He was an artist who made cool fancy constructs, not boring spheres and beams.

Boring marine Stewart is all cartoon.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Koalas March posted:

Please tell more about Jon Stewart! He was one of the few black heroes I never got into. What was different in comics vs JLU and such?

He wasn't a Marine, he was an architect. That shaped how he saw the world, not just how he saw space and constructions, but how he saw relationships between people. When he was tasked with policing a patchwork world made up of different parts of other worlds, he saw keeping peace between the different races as an architectural and engineering problem, not a political one.

He was also a black man. Not just in the incidental way he was in the show, it was a huge part of how he saw himself. But it wasn't just a source of pride and strength, he had his own exaggerated mental image of what a good black man was. He had to square the fact that he had left his community, become essentially a cop, and dated exclusively alien and white women since then with that image of a good black man.

You should check out Green Lantern Mosaic, it's basically an examination of the character. Unfortunately since the JLU cartoon made him a Marine that got added to his backstory in the comics, and it's pretty common for comic writers to just fall back on that, rather than actually trying to write him as he was presented in Mosaic.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Guy Goodbody posted:

He wasn't a Marine, he was an architect. That shaped how he saw the world, not just how he saw space and constructions, but how he saw relationships between people. When he was tasked with policing a patchwork world made up of different parts of other worlds, he saw keeping peace between the different races as an architectural and engineering problem, not a political one.

He was also a black man. Not just in the incidental way he was in the show, it was a huge part of how he saw himself. But it wasn't just a source of pride and strength, he had his own exaggerated mental image of what a good black man was. He had to square the fact that he had left his community, become essentially a cop, and dated exclusively alien and white women since then with that image of a good black man.

You should check out Green Lantern Mosaic, it's basically an examination of the character. Unfortunately since the JLU cartoon made him a Marine that got added to his backstory in the comics, and it's pretty common for comic writers to just fall back on that, rather than actually trying to write him as he was presented in Mosaic.

That all sounds incredibly interesting! Thank you very much for the recommendation. I gotta check that out. :)

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Mosaic does have that taint on it now due to what happened to the writer so it might be next to impossible to find it because I don't see them ever reprinting it now. I think they even stopped putting out the digital issues on comixology after that all came out.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

X-O posted:

Mosaic does have that taint on it now due to what happened to the writer so it might be next to impossible to find it because I don't see them ever reprinting it now. I think they even stopped putting out the digital issues on comixology after that all came out.

Geez, what happened to the writer?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Not to.

He was busted with massive amounts of child porn.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well, poo poo.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Not only was he busted with massive amounts of child pornography. He was busted because he was uploading it. To Youtube.

The details are the kind of poo poo that can give you nightmares.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Comic-book-author-suspected-of-putting-child-porn-10841108.php

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
The marine stuff was later folded in a bit more, but they retain a lot of his attention to detail and meticulousness in his constructs. There's an issue from several years ago which shows off him assembling a sniper rifle construct with each and every individual part as a separate construct as he puts it together. The lantern who has the "boring" constructs is Hal iirc.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



X-O posted:

Not only was he busted with massive amounts of child pornography. He was busted because he was uploading it. To Youtube.

The details are the kind of poo poo that can give you nightmares.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Comic-book-author-suspected-of-putting-child-porn-10841108.php

Jesus Christ. Now I'm sorry I even asked.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Koalas March posted:

Jesus Christ. Now I'm sorry I even asked.

Don't let a lovely writer ruin you on one of the only Green Lanterns who was ever interesting.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Xelkelvos posted:

The marine stuff was later folded in a bit more, but they retain a lot of his attention to detail and meticulousness in his constructs. There's an issue from several years ago which shows off him assembling a sniper rifle construct with each and every individual part as a separate construct as he puts it together. The lantern who has the "boring" constructs is Hal iirc.

Hal Jordan was also taken down by a bird. An evil bird, admittedly, but it wasn't even green!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73wTXAxqaw

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

X-O posted:

Don't let a lovely writer ruin you on one of the only Green Lanterns who was ever interesting.

Another good suggestion for John is Cosmic Odyssey

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
The back issues are cheap as poo poo except for #18. 1-17 can be had for a buck each, #18 probably under $10.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

grack posted:

Hal Jordan was also taken down by a bird. An evil bird, admittedly, but it wasn't even green!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73wTXAxqaw

Hal is the worst of the classic four human GLs. His only advantage is that he has the most "Willpower."

Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz aren't great either, but it's nice to watch Cruz develop from someone with crippling anxiety to a full fledged superhero. Simon otoh is a lot less interesting. At least he doesn't have his gun anymore

Pizdec
Dec 10, 2012
Why did you do this thread? D:

I came here to argue incessantly about dumb comic book poo poo, not be horrified by humanity.

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum

Guy Goodbody posted:

If they're doing the Question the season's big bads need to be poverty and the fact that it's impossible to solve crime by punching criminals. An actual comics-accurate Question would be the perfect foil for Mayor Queen, and force the show to go back to at least the level of social consciousness it was at in the first season, where the bad guys were rich people who wanted to kill poor people.

This would be a great season.

Wheat Loaf posted:

I've got it: live-action take on DCAU Question, played by David Duchovny.

Perfect, if they could get Duchovny to look convincing in a fight. The comics Question was actually a pretty good punchman.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

OB_Juan posted:

Perfect, if they could get Duchovny to look convincing in a fight. The comics Question was actually a pretty good punchman.

Oh, now that would be easy - just make it so he's always got the mask on when he fights and use a stunt double.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/posts/1479621395456456


DO. NOT. READ. THE. COMMENTS.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters


With no context I thought this was going to be something about Oliver and Felicity...

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

howe_sam posted:

With no context I thought this was going to be something about Oliver and Felicity...

Sadly, it's one of the few more contentious things than shipping.

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Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dude, why didn't you warn us about the comments.

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