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That's a forest for the trees argument that vets don't get. The trees are thicker for a lot. Their mental health care providers are not the limb of the government they should be swinging axes at.
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Smiling Jack posted:oh dear me heavily armed veterans taking it out on the front line mental health providers in America this has never happened before whut
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:That's a forest for the trees argument that vets don't get. The trees are thicker for a lot. hey I have some bad news for you but the police are the primary mental health providers in this country #2 is corrections officers in jails number 9 or 10 is what you would call a "mental health professional"
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Vasudus posted:whut Pennsylvania State Trooper sniper attack https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frein Serbian war reenactor, airsoft player, domestic terrorist and murderer Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Smiling Jack posted:hey I have some bad news for you but the police are the primary mental health providers in this country What the hell sense does that make? Because that reads all sorts of wrong. That's like saying cats are cardiologists because they're often around when people have heart attacks.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:What the hell sense does that make? none really but most of you guys seem okay with using cops and guards as your mental health providers until someone gets shot and then there's a lot of deep concern for like 96 hours on local news channels
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Smiling Jack posted:Pennsylvania State Trooper sniper attack Well yeah I remember the event, I just didn't realize he was a yugo war reenactor. God that's such a strange fetish.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:What the hell sense does that make? https://newsone.com/2744141/prisons-mental-health-providers/
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Smiling Jack posted:none really but most of you guys seem okay with using cops and guards as your mental health providers until someone gets shot and then there's a lot of deep concern for like 96 hours on local news channels Cops and prison/jail guards are facilitators of mental health at best, not providers. They maintain control and follow orders, not offer suggestions for how to channel your crazy or prescribe anything besides cuffs, car, block building with bars. Doc says inmate needs his pill, guard gonna give it to him, not the doc. Wait, this is dumb. Hell of a lot of trees to walk back through out of here. CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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 Somebody had a bit of fun with a hacked digital billboard FastestGunAlive posted:Not as big headline as all the good poo poo on this page but thought it was funny I don't know if this has been posted before, but wrestling heel Progressive Liberal is a legit cool dude. He just gives his own progressive views (with a dickish spin) to be a villain for the Appalachian wrestling fans. They take it so seriously that one of the wrestling officials pretends to feed him talking points, in an attempt to protect him from getting jumped after wrestling matches. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...achian-circuit/
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Something awful is my mental health provider.
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thats a great angle tbh and i wish him all the best
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Arc Light posted:
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Gobbeldygook posted:Two black vets snapped and went cop hunting. I don't think any vets have really tried to rack up a civilian body count - yet. How many wars back are we talking? Because we just passed the anniversary of the last time a university in Texas made any worthwhile news. 17:1 is a pretty solid score.
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Still waiting for the Starship Troopers vet revolt that brings in the fascist government we need to take the fight to those filthy skinnies
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:Cops and prison/jail guards are facilitators of mental health at best, not providers. They maintain control and follow orders, not offer suggestions for how to channel your crazy or prescribe anything besides cuffs, car, block building with bars. Doc says inmate needs his pill, guard gonna give it to him, not the doc. I think you're kind of missing the point here
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Do we have an extradition policy with Russia? Donnie's vacation is him attempting to leave the country.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:Cops and prison/jail guards are facilitators of mental health at best, not providers. They maintain control and follow orders, not offer suggestions for how to channel your crazy or prescribe anything besides cuffs, car, block building with bars. Doc says inmate needs his pill, guard gonna give it to him, not the doc. There's a big difference between the way the system should work and the way it does work. Reconciling the two is hard, expensive, and not getting any easier the longer we wait. He's right in that we like to imagine people who need mental health support can walk into a clinic and sign up and get what they need. Usually some part of the process fails, and Joe Schizo ends up on the street or in a shelter. Now it's the police's problem.
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Zeris posted:There's a big difference between the way the system should work and the way it does work. Reconciling the two is hard, expensive, and not getting any easier the longer we wait. He's right in that we like to imagine people who need mental health support can walk into a clinic and sign up and get what they need. Usually some part of the process fails, and Joe Schizo ends up on the street or in a shelter. Now it's the police's problem. I tried to straighten up and fly right, but it wasn't easy with that sumbitch Reagan in the White House.
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Genocide Tendency posted:How many wars back are we talking? Because we just passed the anniversary of the last time a university in Texas made any worthwhile news. "17th victim died in 2001 from injuries sustained in the attack."
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Mental health talk: We don't have asylums anymore because Republicans didn't want to pay for them, and some far left idiots think it's never ok to lock someone up for their own good.
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Calling them "providers" is a cruel loving joke. It's the epitome of doublespeak. They take unmanageable people off the street and dope them to keep them compliant and manageable, NOT to actually provide care or treatment. Think One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest but without medical personnel and with 1/10 the staff. On the other hand, holy poo poo, talk about unfunded, untrained mandates on law enforcement, courts, jails and prisons. It's like taking infantrymen and making them unemployed single parents of special needs kids. We've almost completely dismantled the country's public mental health treatment system since the early 80s because doing so was free money for state governments. (To be fair, new due process requirements and minimum care standards for keeping people locked up also made it more expensive) It's to remote of a problem for most people to care about, but the bottom line is that the level of management we give to the mentally ill is, "what must we do to maintain order in jail/prison while avoiding a cruel and unusual punishment lawsuit?"
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joat mon posted:Calling them "providers" is a cruel loving joke. It's the epitome of doublespeak. Sounds like your average American medical provider to me!
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:At least Hilldog got to clear her mind with a walk in the woods. I'm well off, and if my Education benefits stop I'm suddenly broke. Imagine broke brains who already have it rough.
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If I absolutely had to, I could last for three or four months on my savings. After that?
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TBeats posted:If I absolutely had to, I could last for three or four months on my savings. After that? I could start selling my possessions. But I'd be reluctant to sell my car if congress hosed me over
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TBeats posted:If I absolutely had to, I could last for three or four months on my savings. After that? That's about what my bet is for the peak of the guzzoline wars at this rate, so you're pretty much golden
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joat mon posted:It's like taking infantrymen and making them unemployed single parents of special needs kids.= Get out of my head
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p.s. court-ordered medication compliance is my jam.
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TBeats posted:If I absolutely had to, I could last for three or four months on my savings. After that? I could make it a year if I sold off all my stuff, but by that point I'm sure the VA isn't sending out meds and the stress of losing my house would probably make everything go pear shaped.
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You know one time we had to court order Risperdal injections for a really unfortunate old schizophrenic lady who was just too far gone to accept the medications on her own. About a week later the injections had straightened out her brain so much she was nearly normal again. No longer throwing chairs at windows or anything. We spent a good long time talking about life and she continued to take her meds on her own and it felt p good to see the system work right. That's my story.
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WAPO reporting the Secret Service in a tiff with Angry Orange's real estate company. Non-paywall version http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/se...nB9Q?li=BBnbfcL
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It's really difficult to get someone declared incompetent/crazy by the courts. I've beat that wrap twice. Who has two thumbs, and can still buy assault rifles? THIS GUY!
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I think Trump heard that Obama's third quarter 2016* as president had a 2.9% GDP, better than his 2.6% that he was bragging about because https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/893420123641479168 E: unless he means WV. In which case if you throw all of your trash and belongings on your floor and then piss in the corner, pick up and throw away a couple of beer cans and you're 3% cleaner, but you're still living in a shithole. boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Lol fuckin yeah Huntington WV is incredible. A fat, opiate addicted city is incredible. I have relatives there and that place is goddamn pathetic. No wonder they idolize Trump, it's literally all they have left. E: I didn't watch his speech last night, did he talk about opiates at all? I assume not, because why would he? Probably just shouted "RUSSIA FAKE NEWS!". How far off am I? dubzee fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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dubzee posted:E: I didn't watch his speech last night, did he talk about opiates at all? I assume not, because why would he? Probably just shouted "RUSSIA FAKE NEWS!". How far off am I? He will solve the opiate epidemic problem. https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/amberjamieson/trump-barely-mentions-war-on-drugs-at-epicenter-of-the What, you wanted more? gently caress you, get me a diet coke.
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He talked about Hillary's emails when asked about the investigation. Guess if I'm seriousposting or not.
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Just lol. Both sides of my family are from WV, I'm glad my parents were smart enough to gtfo the instant they got hitched. WV is a drat shame, such a beautiful state that's been ruined by corporate greed.
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dubzee posted:Just lol. 
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