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Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Straight calorie counting can also quite easily be gamified, you can make it addictive.

If only I got some sort of currency to buy virtual outfits with my 900+ days straight on MyFitnessPal.

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WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Jesus loving Christ you idiots, there's a literal diet and exercise Megathread where people talk about TDEEs and being fat and weak all day every day

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

FlamingLiberal posted:

If this is seriously what they are going to campaign on during the midterms we are hosed

I'm not sure what you guys think is a winning message when we know that "gently caress Trump" isn't one, and "Hail Bernie" isn't one either.

Javes
May 6, 2012

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Xombie posted:

I'm not sure what you guys think is a winning message when we know that "gently caress Trump" isn't one, and "Hail Bernie" isn't one either.

Higher wages and health care seems like a winning strategy to me.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


"Let's move to the right on abortion rights" sure as gently caress isn't a winning message for the supposedly "socially liberal" party either.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Xombie posted:

"Hail Bernie" isn't one

Since this has never been allowed to go forward without getting kneecapped, we really don't know that, do we?

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Javes posted:

Higher wages and health care seems like a winning strategy to me.

Neither of these things are mutually exclusive from the talking points Schumer posted.

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Straight calorie counting can also quite easily be gamified, you can make it addictive.
This is why thin people don't get fat, it makes perfect sense.

Xombie posted:

Be assured that they will follow through with virtually none of this.
I bet this is what it's like to be a doctor

Xombie posted:

The reason why calorie counting is hard is because it takes a significant amount of discipline and consistency that people usually aren't willing to put in. This is also the reason why the majority of people end up gaining weight back on literally every type of diet. Straight calorie counting, however, has by far the highest long-term success rate.
A lack of dietary and moral fiber is driving the diabetes epidemic.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Xombie posted:

I'm not sure what you guys think is a winning message when we know that "gently caress Trump" isn't one, and "Hail Bernie" isn't one either.
It's incredibly simple- push for higher wages and better healthcare. That's it.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

The key difference between that priority and Trump's: the DNC may actually have American made swag?

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

FlamingLiberal posted:

It's incredibly simple- push for higher wages and better healthcare. That's it.

Ah yes, the rallying cry they had in the last election they lost, and the thing that lost them the Senate in 2014. So simple. Let's do that and nothing else.

You guys are confusing good policy with good messaging.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Aug 4, 2017

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Sneakster posted:

Their response to utter failure is a platform of tax credits to employers for hiring people and paraphrasing Trump:
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/892775305718497282
Currency manipulation and opening up to support anti-abortion candidates. They're competing for Trump's ratings in the TV sense since he "talks a good game".

I enjoy all the replies along the lines of 'you filthy liberals are stealing Trump's wonderful policies', followed up by referring to the policies as socialist failures.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

BonoMan posted:

That John Denver was full of poo poo, man.

He sang so much about mountains, but it was sea that killed him. Sad.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Conway seems exausted and beaten down in this new CNN interview.

https://youtu.be/AOPtwvmiI7A

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Conway seems exausted and beaten down in this new CNN interview.

https://youtu.be/AOPtwvmiI7A

Good I hope every day is more miserable than the last.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Javes posted:

Higher wages and health care seems like a winning strategy to me.

Yes!

$12/hour and tax credits it is!

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Radish posted:

"Let's move to the right on abortion rights" sure as gently caress isn't a winning message for the supposedly "socially liberal" party either.

I'm unclear on this. Pro-choice means we let individuals decide. Personally pro-life politicians can also be pro-choice. Is the DNC supporting candidates that are actually pushing pro-life public policy?

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


EugeneJ posted:

Yes!

$12/hour and tax credits it is!



$12 an hour is going to be the minimum in a couple years in the noted Socialist State of Arizona.

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
Also, buy American is a dumb policy. Buy things that are the cheapest or highest quality.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Nevvy Z posted:

Is the DNC supporting candidates that are actually pushing pro-life public policy?

https://twitter.com/ilyseh/status/892112672577265664

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Javes posted:

Also, buy American is a dumb policy. Buy things that are the cheapest or highest quality.

Look at this open-border globalist literally advocating free flow of rapists, drugs, and poison candy from Mexico

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.

Condiv posted:

i thought coke zero was already supposed to taste more sugary like coke

Coke Zero was supposed to get men to drink low-calorie beverages, because men have historically avoided soft drinks with the word "diet" in them. Hence the black label.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Xombie posted:

Ah yes, the rallying cry they had in the last election they lost, and the thing that lost them the Senate in 2014. So simple. Let's do that and nothing else.

You guys are confusing good policy with good messaging.

they won the loving vote by 3 million votes

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

botany posted:

they won the loving vote by 3 million votes

In all the wrong places.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Nevvy Z posted:

I'm unclear on this. Pro-choice means we let individuals decide. Personally pro-life politicians can also be pro-choice. Is the DNC supporting candidates that are actually pushing pro-life public policy?

From what I understand they are going to stop having "pro-life" as a deal breaker for funding local candidates. The problem is that pro-life is just code for punishing women and has little to do with actually protecting babies or lowing the rate of abortions as has been discussed here many times so allowing the party to even put their toe into that is opening the door for even more concessions on other social policies. It's a very disturbing idea that they are looking at Trump's voters and deciding that they need some of those people and are willing to compromise with them on issues that affect women's health and doesn't leave a good feeling they won't abandon other groups.

Honey Trap Queen
Jul 30, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Radish posted:

From what I understand they are going to stop having "pro-life" as a deal breaker for funding local candidates. The problem is that pro-life is just code for punishing women and has little to do with actually protecting babies or lowing the rate of abortions as has been discussed here many times so allowing the party to even put their toe into that is opening the door for even more concessions on other social policies. It's a very disturbing idea that they are looking at Trump's voters and deciding that they need some of those people and are willing to compromise with them on issues that affect women's health and doesn't leave a good feeling they won't abandon other groups.

This. Abandoning the Pro-choice movement is a terrible loving idea.

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Xombie posted:

"Hail Bernie" isn't one either.
Yes, it is

It's almost like Bernie is the most popular politician in the country

Nevvy Z posted:

Is the DNC supporting candidates that are actually pushing pro-life public policy?
I don't know how to tell you this, but: it turns out they're a waste.

This is the danger of Trump, he's compromising the entire political spectrum, the Democrats aren't going unmolested by the nightmare of this administration and the spectacle it provides is distracting a lot of people from a horrifying rightward lurch in the DNC since donor cash is all that matters fundamentally.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

FlamingLiberal posted:

If this is seriously what they are going to campaign on during the midterms we are hosed

they're going to mostly campaign on "did you see what the republicans tried to do to your health care?????"

Sneakster
Jul 13, 2017

by R. Guyovich

evilweasel posted:

they're going to mostly campaign on "did you see what the republicans tried to do to your health care?????"
"mostly"
https://twitter.com/derekwillis/status/882669894055100416

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

i pretty vehemently disagree with funding pro-life candidates in all but those cases where there's no other real option, but for all of those people going gently caress THE DNC FOR DOING THIS drat CENTRISTS bernie has been doing it too, most notably in that mayoral election in omaha where bernie campaigned vigorously in favor of a pro-life mayor (who lost)

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

BrianBoitano posted:

Look at this open-border globalist literally advocating free flow of rapists, drugs, and poison candy from Mexico

marzipan sucks so i am against poison candy

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


He's wrong there too. This is something I don't think should be compromised on. It's a huge mistake and won't result in any electoral wins as pro-lifers are concerned with the punishment of women which the Democrats, at least not yet, can't be counted on as well as Republicans.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Aug 4, 2017

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

evilweasel posted:

i pretty vehemently disagree with funding pro-life candidates in all but those cases where there's no other real option, but for all of those people going gently caress THE DNC FOR DOING THIS drat CENTRISTS bernie has been doing it too, most notably in that mayoral election in omaha where bernie campaigned vigorously in favor of a pro-life mayor (who lost)

Sounds like our revolution is going great

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


evilweasel posted:

i pretty vehemently disagree with funding pro-life candidates in all but those cases where there's no other real option, but for all of those people going gently caress THE DNC FOR DOING THIS drat CENTRISTS bernie has been doing it too, most notably in that mayoral election in omaha where bernie campaigned vigorously in favor of a pro-life mayor (who lost)

Yeah a house member is more acceptable than a mayor. A mayor could actually threaten women's reproductive rights while a pro choice Democrat in the house can whine all they want while putting Nancy Pelosi in power.

Javes
May 6, 2012

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evilweasel posted:

i pretty vehemently disagree with funding pro-life candidates in all but those cases where there's no other real option, but for all of those people going gently caress THE DNC FOR DOING THIS drat CENTRISTS bernie has been doing it too, most notably in that mayoral election in omaha where bernie campaigned vigorously in favor of a pro-life mayor (who lost)

You'd think losing 900+ seats since 2008 would maybe force a change in strategy for the DNC but nope FULL STEAM AHEAD ON CENTRISM.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Radish posted:

He's wrong there too. This is something I don't think should be compromised on.

yeah, i agree

there's a real tendency to view women's rights issues as parochial interest-group issues that can be compromised on where things that affect men are considered interests that affect everyone

i have no problem with people who personally feel uncomfortable with abortion, but it's where you start trying to legislate that onto other people that it becomes a problem

i think the reality is that in some deep-red shitholes its going to be the only choice but it shouldn't be something thats considered more acceptable to compromise on than any other vitally important part of the democratic platform

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Javes posted:

You'd think losing 900+ seats since 2008 would maybe force a change in strategy for the DNC but nope FULL STEAM AHEAD ON CENTRISM.

yeah, see, you are the precise sort of idiot i'm talking about

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Sloober posted:

marzipan sucks so i am against poison candy

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
So many pages skipped over thanks to fat chat

1https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/893326275502387201
2https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/893210081252306944
3https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/893292560541773825
4https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/893460097254469633
5https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/893272055394820096
6https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/893298290783117314
7https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/893201432270311424
8https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/893442207214170112
9https://twitter.com/paulwsj/status/893469049795088384
10https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/893469762835140608
11https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/893469076688957441
12https://twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/893462307321372676
13https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/893472199859986432
14https://twitter.com/politiCOHEN_/status/893472188992552960
15https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/893471728092971010
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17https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/893471604944064514
18https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/893434551208423424
19https://twitter.com/Morehouse/status/893466716117848064
20https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/892810493152374784
21https://twitter.com/jnsanchez/status/893464297397006337
22https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/893430777995776002
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25https://twitter.com/ChristFinnegan/status/892883421252530176
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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







regarding that WaPo real estate deal, the absolute funniest ending would be some court throwing the book at trump for boring rear end white person tax fraud.

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