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Pleads posted:He lost at least 3 pieces, including a bishop, to the opponent's king. That's mega bad at chess!!! Huh, you're right. I was so caught up in the metaphor I wasn't paying attention to the actual game. To be fair to Merle though the world is ending and his kids and all his friends could die at any second so he probably was having trouble concentrating.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I'm sure Griffin and Justin McElroy, Maximum Fun podcast personalities, feel a lot of pressure to say something. Griffin and Justin McElroy, Polygon employees, have Vox Media lawyers forbidding them from saying a single thing. drat I keep forgetting Vox owns Polygon. Talk about uneven quality of your output, yeesh.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:27
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Who What Now posted:Because I didn't follow it very closely because I generally don't give a poo poo about Twitter drama. I guess I must have misinterpreted your 18 posts about this since last night, half of which were dismissing the entire situation, as "following it closely" and "giving a poo poo". Maybe just take this as a lesson to not defend people if you're not following a situation. Lots of opportunity for personal growth here  .
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oofa doofa. cool games inc is a joy, and i hope nick figures out his poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:28
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inferis posted:I mean I was sort of half joking but like, if you agree that misogyny exists on the internet it's not super far fetched to make the jump here Yeah I mean "Young internet gamer that yells at developers on twitter and unironically posts about how much he wants to gently caress Krystal also kind of a creeper" isn't exactly a large leap. Just like when we learn about Griffin's secret weird DA commissions I'll just nod and say "Yeah that follows."
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absolutely anything posted:well huh sorry man
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Farg posted:well at least lets go to hell hasn't been that hot I know it's still early, but I just don't see LGTH having the same legs as Car Boys even if Nick stays on. At least with Car Boys, it had a thriving mod community, so when things got stale, you could introduce a new car, object, or level and see where it takes you. LGTH is just a lot of doing the same thing to different games, and trying to wring comedy out of it, as opposed to Boundary Break, which is about showing off cool things, just isn't gonna work.
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Somberbrero posted:oofa doofa. This is the vibe I was getting from most people on Twitter who were posting about knowing what actually happened. Not that whatever it was was in a league of awfulness that they want Nick ruined or whatever, but that they hope he takes this as a chance to stop being a weird fucker to women he knows and chill.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:33
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Aug 4, 2017 18:34
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I hope the underage poo poo isn't true because IMHO you can't really come back from that, that's peak skeeze. But it wouldn't totally shock me given how anime-immersed Nick is.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:35
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yeah even some of the OG posts were more 'get it together' than 'get fired'
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Aug 4, 2017 18:35
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DoctorWhat posted:I hope the underage poo poo isn't true because IMHO you can't really come back from that, that's peak skeeze. nah feel like we'd be seeing a vastly different tone if it was underage stuff
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Aug 4, 2017 18:36
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Aug 4, 2017 18:38
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just look at that nick guy..... he has the hair of a pervertte
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ekeog posted:The people who have written a shockingly large amount of actual Griffin/Nick erotica must have really red faces right now Yea it's a rough day for me. Blockhouse posted:nah feel like we'd be seeing a vastly different tone if it was underage stuff well why not posted:yeah even some of the OG posts were more 'get it together' than 'get fired' Yea if this was Seriously Bad poo poo it feels like there'd be a lot more overt vitriol than subtweeting and snark. That said there's unfortunately a lot of ground between 'creepy and uncomfortable to be around but harmless' and 'Seriously Bad poo poo'.
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Pinterest Mom posted:I guess I must have misinterpreted your 18 posts about this since last night, half of which were dismissing the entire situation, as "following it closely" and "giving a poo poo". Meanwhile the people also tweeting about women being afraid to speak up could have also been interpreted as "what's going on now is similar to an experience I had" rather than "Nick specifically did something that I know about". because it was all subtweets and vagueness and innuendo. combined with the shitposts. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 18:40
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Is it time to name this controversy? I vote for LandonGate
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Poque posted:gonna replace CGI with Polygon Show and I'm already excited to get some weekly Simone game for this solution tbh
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Aug 4, 2017 18:42
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Pinterest Mom posted:I guess I must have misinterpreted your 18 posts about this since last night, half of which were dismissing the entire situation, as "following it closely" and "giving a poo poo". Yeah, definitely. I mean, being perfectly honest I will probably continue to make jokes about things without digging deeply into them, but I shouldn't have. I hosed up. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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Aug 4, 2017 18:42
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the problem is that in any case where people are going to want water-tight details just removing the victim's name is not going to stop people from trying to use the context of the story to figure out who it is so even people who know a lot more than they're letting on are hesitant to gently caress over someone by saying too much
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Yea I also apologize for being probably more dismissive than I would normally be just because I like the dude involved. That's something I make fun of all the time and I should do better than that.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:45
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Pinterest Mom posted:Everything one needs to know was pretty clearly laid out in this thread, and you still kept mocking and dismissing it, so, maybe, try introspection and asking yourself why you were really holding on to reasons to not believe that this was happening instead of being snarky? Saying anything's been clearly laid out in this thread is a bit of a stretch, since everything is still super vague, and the twitter drama coverage was interspersed with people hand-wringing about whether or not Griffin enabled Nick's actions (reminder: we still don't know what those are) or declaring that liking selfies is definitive proof of sex crime. Can't really blame anybody for not taking this seriously right away.
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Blockhouse posted:the problem is that in any case where people are going to want water-tight details just removing the victim's name is not going to stop people from trying to use the context of the story to figure out who it is I take that stuff way more seriously than a sudden DUNK ON EM driveby shitpost with no clarification. like i said when this first broke "this'll be a bummer if it's true" but I also couldn't tell if this was a real thing or if it was one of those 'not your shield' things because twitter is a blighted wasteland of bad actors A close personal friend of his breaking away is real real stuff. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Aug 4, 2017 |
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New Butt Order posted:Saying anything's been clearly laid out in this thread is a bit of a stretch, since everything is still super vague, and the twitter drama coverage was interspersed with people hand-wringing about whether or not Griffin enabled Nick's actions (reminder: we still don't know what those are) or declaring that liking selfies is definitive proof of sex crime. Can't really blame anybody for not taking this seriously right away. No one's blaming anyone for not taking this seriously right away, they're blaming people from going "this is bullshit" right away
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Had no idea what the Krystal thing y'all were talking about was. Turns out it's pretty  https://twitter.com/Babylonian/status/846175364418158593
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I understand the impulse to ask what the specific allegations are, because that's usually my own impulse. But here's the thing with this particular situation: clearly a lot of people have been treating Nick like a missing stair for a while. If circles of people I consider trustworthy are all passing around the message "be careful around this guy", that's a ringing alarm bell even if they're not publicly sharing the specifics of what he did. No, it's not evidence in itself, but it sure seems like there's a lot of smoke.
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DoctorWhat posted:possible silver lining: griffin-and-Pat content God I hope so. I adore Pat. If he goes all milkshake duck as well I might have to kill myself. Nick has been silent on Twitter for 15 hours which is unlike him. He's obviously dealing with this in some capacity.
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I'd like to know if I need to start calling him a rapist like Faraci, or if this is something less severe.
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Supercar Gautier posted:treating Nick like a missing stair Is this a McElroyism or what
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Quest For Glory II posted:This wasnt directed at me but I wanna say that I still think how this popped off was in bad faith with bloodyhoney's attempt at a "dunk on 'em!!" sick burn for high fives, instead of collecting stories, vetting them, and reporting them while protecting the anonymity of the sources, and that immediately put me off. Because optically "heres my issue with overcooked" "DUNK ON EM" looks like essentially a driveby shitpost. Yeah, the guy stepping up and calling Nick out on his bullshit and triggering a general venting about it is definitely acting in bad faith because he didn't prepare a full legal case to present to you beforehand. When things like this spill out of private channels like this, it's going to be messy. This is hosed up real life, not content. It's not there for you.
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Who What Now posted:Yeah, definitely. I mean, being perfectly honest I will probably continue to make jokes about things without digging deeply into them, but I shouldn't have. I hosed up. I was 80% more snarky with you than I needed to be, and I'm sorry about that - I wasn't really treating you like you were engaging in good faith. I appreciate this. Quest For Glory II posted:This wasnt directed at me but I wanna say that I still think how this popped off was in bad faith with bloodyhoney's attempt at a "dunk on 'em!!" sick burn for high fives, instead of collecting stories, vetting them, and reporting them while protecting the anonymity of the sources, and that immediately put me off. Because optically "heres my issue with overcooked" "DUNK ON EM" looks like essentially a driveby shitpost. And then you had people bringing up Nick's "wife" and the fuckin Internet Telephone game began. so like, it started in a bad place and then got worse, because no one would pass along an actual story with the victim's name removed, so it was like a shitpost katamari damacy rolling up and up and up. Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that I don't think skepticism is a healthy first response to this kind of stuff - we've seen a lot of internet whisper and smear campaigns that were entirely manufactured over the years, and they look a lot like how this situation developed. Given how much the games media is balkanised right now, and how different personalities communicate with different audiences, using different codes, and have credibility built up with different audiences, it's really not surprising that "if Gita Jackson and Austin Walker are subtweeting about this, it's definitely a real thing" carries more weight for some people than it did others. But, yeah, basically this: SoupyTwist posted:No one's blaming anyone for not taking this seriously right away, they're blaming people from going "this is bullshit" right away
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Colonel Whitey posted:Is this a McElroyism or what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair quote:Missing stair is a term used to describe a sexual predator who many people know cannot be trusted, but who, rather than shunning, they work around by trying to quietly warn others. The analogy is to a structural fault in a house, such as a missing stair, that everyone who lives in the house has gotten used to and warns newcomers about, rather than fixing.
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