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FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

TeaJay posted:

It's funny that I've read detailed episode leak-spoilers but now I'm somewhat annoyed that people have already seen the episode in lovely quality when I wanted to shitpost about it with everybody on monday.

I feel the same way. High Definition Shitposting is the only way for me.

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disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


GaussianCopula posted:

Well, she could have just gotten beaten and raped like Sansa - I'm sure that was fun. Oh and stripped naked in front of the whole court in King's Landing. And almost freeze near Winterfell.

Sansa going through horrible poo poo doesn't render her incapable of sympathy for her sister.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
the stuff about the bridge was wrong, so that's something i guess

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

WampaLord posted:

Jamie really is a loving idiot.

What did he think would happen?

I thought it was pretty badass. He doesn't have a very good chance at success, but Dany is on the ground near him tending to her wounded dragon and he can end the war right then and there if he gets to her. He's trying to roll the hard six.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

mastershakeman posted:

the stuff about the bridge was wrong, so that's something i guess

There were a lot of minor details in the outline that weren't in the episode (multiple ballistae being revealed, Arya getting into a fight with Bran over not using his power to figure out his killer) but the broad strokes were accurate. I assume it really was some pre-production outline banged out in the writers room before they got to the actual script writing.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

PostNouveau posted:

I thought it was pretty badass. He doesn't have a very good chance at success, but Dany is on the ground near him tending to her wounded dragon and he can end the war right then and there if he gets to her. He's trying to roll the hard six.

He who lives to run away lives to fight another day.

- A lesson Theon correctly learned.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
can anyone gimme the spoilers of the episode in text form because I don't wanna watch a lovely quality leak

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Phi230 posted:

can anyone gimme the spoilers of the episode in text form because I don't wanna watch a lovely quality leak

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/heres-everything-that-happens-in-the-leaked-episode-of-1797544478

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
thank

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Theon's arc should end with him giving a badass speech to Euron's Iron Islanders, attempting to turn them, complete with a warcry at the end, as the heroic music soar... only for Euron to stab him through the throat and quipping "it was a good speech tho".

Also episode 4 was badass.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Lloyd Boner posted:

Nah they're definitely the good guys in the scene. The Dothraki making fun of the burning Lannister army to Tyrion while he watches definitely casts Tyrion's botched strategies in a much better light.

Yeah the Dothraki guy yucking it up was a dick. Danny’s army/horde didn’t seem to do too well against the units who didn’t have half their men melted.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Phi230 posted:

can anyone gimme the spoilers of the episode in text form because I don't wanna watch a lovely quality leak

Arya shows up at Winterfell and reunites with Sansa/Bran
Jon and Dany have a painfully awkward scene in the dragonglass mine that I think was supposed to be romantic but really wasn't. Dany says she believes Jon and will help him, but only if he bends the knee.
Theon shows up at Dragonstone asking for help to rescue Yara, Jon says mean things to him.
Jamie and Bronn are escorting the Tyrell loot back to KL when Dany shows up on Drogon with the Dothraki and wrecks their poo poo. Qyburn's ballista is effective in grounding Drogon but doesn't kill him. Jamie and Bronn (presumably) survive by throwing themselves in the water after a heroic charge against Dany.

I think that's most of it. The important bits, anyway.

Bates
Jun 15, 2006
Pod is my man. I can relate.

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
Taking a girl into a cave is the one trick Jon knows to get laid - it works every time.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

ultramiraculous posted:

Yeah the Dothraki guy yucking it up was a dick. Danny’s army/horde didn’t seem to do too well against the units who didn’t have half their men melted.

Makes sense. The Dothraki would get wrecked in a straight up fight against pike infantry or a armored cavalry formation.

They'd be unstoppable as a raiding force, recon, defeating enemy scouts / forage parties or pursuing a defeated enemy.

If they had kept the Unsullied around to engage and break enemy formations they wouldn't even need the dragons to defeat opponents.

Alternatively, the Dothraki can move at a strategic level much faster than Westeros heavy Calvary, and burning farms / town is right up their alley.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

TK-42-1 posted:

Have they ever brought 'The stallion that mounts the world' again after babby died?

It's Drogon you dunce.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Jeb! Repetition posted:

Yeah that was the best episode of the season so far. Maybe of the whole series post-season 1.

lol what.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Yeah, uh, no. Season 3 exists. It has The Rains of Castamere, it has And Now His Watch Is Ended, it has Kissed By Fire. There's three episodes that trump drat near everything else on this show. I would also put Watchers On The Wall up there, along with Hardhome and the two Sapochnik-directed S6 episodes. This was good for that loving amazing Field of Fire II scene and the Arya with Brienne scene. The scene with Bronn running through the chaos was definitely reminiscent of Jon doing so at the Battle of the Bastards.

Adun
Apr 15, 2001

Publicola
Fun Shoe

WampaLord posted:

Jamie really is a loving idiot.

What did he think would happen?

I mean they show him being aghast at all of the men dying during the battle. He saw a chance to end the war and avoid the bloodshed so he took it. Kinda selfless.

Also holy poo poo at 'chaos is a ladder'

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Sydin posted:

There were a lot of minor details in the outline that weren't in the episode (multiple ballistae being revealed, Arya getting into a fight with Bran over not using his power to figure out his killer) but the broad strokes were accurate. I assume it really was some pre-production outline banged out in the writers room before they got to the actual script writing.

yeah I'd seen stuff about the outline being a year
also I don't know if it was on purpose but they did a great job making Dany and rhe dothrakis look like villains

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Goddamn I'm a softbodied goon but not so unfamiliar with the idea of physically doing stuff that I'd credit a fairly simple windmill kip up to CGI instead of a stunt double.

I started doing heavy physical labor on a farm when I was twelve. Not unfamiliar. But it has her face at the end of the shot, so if it's a stunt double it would still need CGI to paste it on. Which was the main thing I was referring to because her face looks kind of blurry and weird. It might just be the video quality so I'm looking forward to the HD.

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.
my favorite part of the battle was the random shots of the Dothraki charging headlong into spear-and-shield walls, in classic Mongol fashion. Not really sure what was going on there, considering they're shown using horse archery in other shots, which seems much more prudent given the nature of the enemy army.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Only took 4 episodes for something to actually happen in the show.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

HannibalBarca posted:

my favorite part of the battle was the random shots of the Dothraki charging headlong into spear-and-shield walls, in classic Mongol fashion. Not really sure what was going on there, considering they're shown using horse archery in other shots, which seems much more prudent given the nature of the enemy army.

Reading this just makes me want to relisten to Dan Carlin talk about Genghis Khan.

Everyone should give it a listen if you have like, 8 hours to kill: http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-wrath-of-the-khans-series/

VVVVV Was the flayed man banner like their version of the Confederate flag then?

GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Aug 4, 2017

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

WampaLord posted:

They're literally a house known for flaying people. This is a non-secret about them, something they openly advertise. Littlefinger was a spymaster with access to insider, non-common information about the Boltons. I find it very hard to believe he didn't know about Ramsay.

The flaying was something that they at least reputedly hadn't done for generations, though. Roose and presumably his immediate forebears had made the house seem legit and mainstream, albeit spooky.

e: To be clear, you're probably right, it's probably just bad writing; I'm just saying, there are possible explanations within the storyline for this.

Majorian fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Aug 5, 2017

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

HannibalBarca posted:

my favorite part of the battle was the random shots of the Dothraki charging headlong into spear-and-shield walls, in classic Mongol fashion. Not really sure what was going on there, considering they're shown using horse archery in other shots, which seems much more prudent given the nature of the enemy army.

I've been playing alot of total war and its really amusing how horses charge into spear walls and live in this show.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I love how Dany's bloodriders are neither riding nor seeking blood.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Tenzarin posted:

I've been playing alot of total war and its really amusing how horses charge into spear walls and live in this show.

That part looked legit, though, right? There were so many horsemen and the line of Lannisters was only 2 or 3 deep. It seemed like, even if they stabbed the first horse, the sheer momentum of all of them was gonna break through the line anyway

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Horses try to avoid being stabbed irl. Even warhorses.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I mean, I know its a show so as many Dothraki are going to die as necessary for the next plot point, but the characters don't know that and would presumably like to preserve their forces. Running the first dragon fireblast parallel to the Lanister line would have 1) surprised the gently caress out the troops focused on the Dothraki, 2) opened up a massive hole in the line and 3)looked cooler.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


how come olenna didn't tell jaime littlefinger was part of the plot to kill joffrey. she told baelish she'd tell em if she was gonna die.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Just saw the episode. I can say it, it was drat good. Littlefinger was a waste of time and space but other than that it was really good. With some modifications it should have been the 2nd episode of the season but well, it is what it is.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Jeb! Repetition posted:

I started doing heavy physical labor on a farm when I was twelve. Not unfamiliar. But it has her face at the end of the shot, so if it's a stunt double it would still need CGI to paste it on. Which was the main thing I was referring to because her face looks kind of blurry and weird. It might just be the video quality so I'm looking forward to the HD.

Oh yeah then probably that kind of composting onto the stunt double. I thought you meant like "no person could do that. It must be a cgi model!!"

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Groovelord Neato posted:

how come olenna didn't tell jaime littlefinger was part of the plot to kill joffrey. she told baelish she'd tell em if she was gonna die.

She's a gloryhog

or maybe she wants Littlefinger to keep loving with the Lannisters

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Bad tactics but this is now big budget b-grade schlock so who cares

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Accretionist posted:

Bad tactics but this is now big budget b-grade schlock so who cares

It's always been, remember how thousands died at the battle of black water bay? Explosion so big they only had 50 guys left.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

HannibalBarca posted:

my favorite part of the battle was the random shots of the Dothraki charging headlong into spear-and-shield walls, in classic Mongol fashion. Not really sure what was going on there, considering they're shown using horse archery in other shots, which seems much more prudent given the nature of the enemy army.

It's pretty accurate to the source material.

There was a battle between Dothraki and Unsullied where the Dothraki outnumbered them 3-1 or more...and they lost.

Because their honour dictated that they do nothing but smash headlong into spears over and over again.


Edit: 8 to 1

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Captain Splendid posted:

It's pretty accurate to the source material.

There was a battle between Dothraki and Unsullied where the Dothraki outnumbered them 3-1 or more...and they lost.

Because their honour dictated that they do nothing but smash headlong into spears over and over again.


Edit: 8 to 1

wait:, what battle was that?

and yeah the dothraki are super mongols who have no leaders or tactics

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

mastershakeman posted:

wait:, what battle was that?

and yeah the dothraki are super mongols who have no leaders or tactics

https://youtu.be/nhc283pXcjQ

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

mastershakeman posted:

wait:, what battle was that?

and yeah the dothraki are super mongols who have no leaders or tactics

Mongols were actually smart enough to wear armor.....

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