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Do you like DoomRL? Do you want to play DoomRL in your browser, watch recorded games, and find new, exciting bugs in my software? If so, you're in luck, because the ancilla DoomRL server is back up and running. For the most part it should behave the same as it did before I shut it down for some "quick" upgrades nearly a year ago; the main user-visible changes are that the browser client should automatically size itself to fit your browser window (when first opened; it doesn't cope with resizes well) and that there are some improvements to the spectator/replay viewer (including the ability to press '?' at any time to get a help screen).
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Kanos posted:I picked up Dungeonmans and I'm super mixed on it. I like the writing and the meta-progression feels insanely strong(it took roughly 5 minutes for my second character to overpower my first one at his time of death), but the skill trees feel really weird and disjointed and I'm not really sure how I should be building a character. It also makes me feel a little bit like a newbie playing ToME for the first time because I lost my first character in an area where I was trivially one shotting all of the trash with no effort and then the area champion did 125% of my life with his first attack. Every skill point is consequential in Dungeonmans. Many of the skills are about positioning, buffing, etc. which just takes a little bit of practice to see the uses of. If you want my advice, start out as a Dungeonmans, and get Applied Wizardry, The Terrible Basics of Necromancy, and Raise a Mostly. On first level up, grab Volatile Liquidity. This is a very straightforward starting build: foom bolt down basic enemies, against champions or unusually tough things, raise a mostly and infect the strong thing with Volatile Liquidity, and any of its buddies too. This basically mulches 95% of the early game without much further investment, so you can feel free to grab other stuff or continue down the trees you started with. Southern Gentlemans skills and Bannermans skills both go well with a necromancer lifestyle (or any, really), so you can branch into those too. Make sure you grab an armor skill (any is fine, mages can wear Real Armor just fine and I usually do).
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Aug 5, 2017 20:36
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I find Light "Armor" to be the most reliable for casters, a) as it basically gives you extra HP on top of your normal pool, and b) since you typically don't use stamina powers often, you'll always be ready to recast it when it runs out. Real Armor does give you much better defenses though. The wizardmans spells are almost all useful, so long as your mana holds out. They have great escape spells (decoy is basically a "get out of fight free" spell for the early/mid-game, and they have a targeted teleport), a variety of elements to hurt things with, some cool buffs and niche attack spells, and some pretty great burst/AoE damage with Foom From The Skies. The big gotcha with wizardmans is that mana doesn't regenerate over time (without specific equipment), so for every enemy you unleash your full pyrotechnic fury on, there's gonna be one or two or three that you have to take down with ordinary foombolts. But Bolt of Foom is basically a bow in staff form, so that's no big deal either.
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Aug 5, 2017 23:09
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ExiledTinkerer posted:MidBoss is back in action after some time spent recharging from the launch chaos with Part 1 of at least 2 rounds of far reaching QoL improvements and myriad miscellaneous bits: Probably my favorite thing about Roguelikes is how you can have two games within the same genre with extremely similar core mechanics, and yet they still look and feel way different Possession looks cool
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Aug 6, 2017 02:31
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Cryptark trip report: The starting suit, the gunhead, might be the best on account of starting with a silent lethal melee weapon, allowing you to prevent cascades of skeleton robots dropping by to see what all the fuss is about.
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Aug 6, 2017 03:48
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vorebane posted:Cryptark trip report: The starting suit, the gunhead, might be the best on account of starting with a silent lethal melee weapon, allowing you to prevent cascades of skeleton robots dropping by to see what all the fuss is about. The Intruder, Rook, and PDX-40 all have strong claims to the title as well: - Rook has at-will invulnerability; you can't move or shoot but you can keep it running as long as you like. This massively increases surviveability with careful use (although it may also train bad habits like never dodging). - Intruder can teleport and starts with a ranged, high-accuracy, high-damage silent weapon (the Hush Puppy) - PDX-40 has bullet time and starts with a thermal javelin launcher, which is a ranged, high accuracy, high damage, infinite ammo silent weapon and one of my favourite weapons full stop.
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Aug 6, 2017 04:11
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Hm I may be a fool for taking the weevil, then, though it's been fun and tough. Don't you have to go and get the javelins you shoot back though? At least that's how it worked when my friend and I doing coop tried the javelin out. And only the first player could pick the thing up too.
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Aug 6, 2017 04:22
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vorebane posted:Cryptark trip report: The starting suit, the gunhead, might be the best on account of starting with a silent lethal melee weapon, allowing you to prevent cascades of skeleton robots dropping by to see what all the fuss is about. If anyone actually gets stealth to work on the cryptark itself, let me know. It's usually a guns-blazing affair for me
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Aug 6, 2017 04:50
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Yah so far hoping for a laser has not availed me when I get to the cryptark. Next time it's a high explosives affair I think. e: ok dumb thing I am about to find out - if the no grenades objective means I can't use rockets either. confirmed! rocket propelled grenades: not grenades. vorebane fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 05:43
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Oh, while I'm on the topic of DoomRL -- I don't remember if I posted this when I first wrote it, but anyone who wished Juggler actually worked for all weapons (and/or that you could hotkey weapon categories) should check out controls.lua and quickkeys.lua from the doomrl-server configs. You don't need the server to use these; they should work with any DoomRL install. With QuickKeysUseCategories = true, quickkeys.lua will bind each hotkey to an entire category of weapons and pressing it repeatedly will cycle through them (instantly, if you have Juggler).
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Aug 6, 2017 13:22
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In Dungeonmans does skill add damage to fool bolts?
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Aug 6, 2017 13:33
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I'm probably a big stupid baby for missing it, but how do I hotkey abilities in Tangledeep ? I'm pressing the number keys and the F row but that doesn't work.
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Aug 6, 2017 13:36
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Wildtortilla posted:In Dungeonmans does skill add damage to fool bolts? Nope. Get a better staff if you want more damage.
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Aug 6, 2017 13:52
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Serephina posted:If anyone actually gets stealth to work on the cryptark itself, let me know. It's usually a guns-blazing affair for me The way I play "stealth" ships, especially on the cryptark, is not "slow and silent", but "light and fast". Get in, quickly destroy as many systems as possible, and get out before poo poo hits the fan (with invisibility/teleport/slow time) then do the same thing elsewhere.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:23
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Dungeonmans has consumed my entire day, holy poo poo. I'm having a blast using Wizardmans and Necromanser skills. I'm wondering about the skill Battlemage, that lets me use a staff and a 1H sword in my offhand. Do I need to pickup the 1H weapon skill, Fundamentals of Monster Crushing in the Adventurw 101 skill tab, to take advantage of Battlemage? I imagine having two weapons with enchantments could get really wicked.
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Aug 6, 2017 18:57
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Pretty sure it lets you equip one handed weapons when you pick up battlemage. Also iirc the two weapon skill tree also works with staff+sword, which can let you do silly melee wizard builds.
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Aug 6, 2017 19:04
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I haven't played this game in over a year and on a whim fired it up this morning and six hours later here we are. I feel like a alot has changed since I last touched the game. This is a solid game. Only down side to it is getting in my way of finishing Baldurs Gate today!
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Aug 6, 2017 19:10
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Bug Squash posted:I'm probably a big stupid baby for missing it, but how do I hotkey abilities in Tangledeep ? I'm pressing the number keys and the F row but that doesn't work. Hover over the ability in the skill screen and press a number 1-8, that should work. You can also drag and drop the skills into the hotbar.
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Aug 7, 2017 01:12
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I'm on my first successful character ever after playing for 8 hours today. It's a level 10 wizard using light armor, fire magics, and necromancy. Basically I use magic armors, summons Mostlies, and burn things with fire. I'm looking at the skill that lets me use a 1H weapon with a staff and I have two questions. One, if I put a point into it I don't also needs a point in 1H weapons do i? Two, if a sword in my offhand has, for example, 1d4 fire damage, is that applied to my foombolts I'm firing out of my staff? If offhand weapon skills are applied to the main weapon attack I'm probably going to invest a point in that skill. At the end of my bender today I cleared a Mountain fort that ended with me bearing a real big, 4,000 HP, Viking guy. I had no idea I was in for a boss like that! Now I need to shop around for more combat blink scrolls and other consumables. I think I used at least 10 potions between hp, mp, armor, and damage, and all four of my blink scrolls. I can't wait to have time again to dig deeper and hopefully put off death for as long as possible.
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Aug 7, 2017 01:53
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Wildtortilla posted:I'm looking at the skill that lets me use a 1H weapon with a staff and I have two questions. One, if I put a point into it I don't also needs a point in 1H weapons do i? Two, if a sword in my offhand has, for example, 1d4 fire damage, is that applied to my foombolts I'm firing out of my staff? If offhand weapon skills are applied to the main weapon attack I'm probably going to invest a point in that skill. The swordstaff skill grants you equip-swords and dual-wielding so long as what you're wielding are a staff and a sword. So no, you don't need anything else. You might consider the dervish skills once you have that skill; the combat dash ability can come in handy. I'm pretty sure that the only thing that affects Bolt of Foom (and other attack spell) damage is your spellpower, which in turn is determined by your staff and (possibly) gloves.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The swordstaff skill grants you equip-swords and dual-wielding so long as what you're wielding are a staff and a sword. So no, you don't need anything else. You might consider the dervish skills once you have that skill; the combat dash ability can come in handy. Hey, thanks for the advice! I thought I posted this in the Dungeonmans thread and was very confused this morning when I didn't see my post. This game has its hooks in me hard, I laid in bed for an hour unable to fall asleep last night because I was thinking about playing Dmans. Fuuuck.
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Aug 7, 2017 11:19
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Well, now I get to find out if I can clear the bottom ~80 levels of Angel of 100 Max Carnage with a suit of gothic armour permanently bonded to my skin.
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Aug 7, 2017 12:46
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Is that just because you found it and want to use it on a lark? Surely Cerberus is ideal on max carnage if you can wrangle it
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Serephina posted:Is that just because you found it and want to use it on a lark? Surely Cerberus is ideal on max carnage if you can wrangle it It's one of the last two assemblies I haven't discovered, and I had all the parts for it and no other armour. I figure this way I'm one step closer to the diamond assembly badge even if this ultimately gets me killed. Since building it I've invested heavily in Hellrunner and agi packs and I'm now back down below 1 second/move. My biggest concern is that 25% resistance + 6 DR doesn't go very far against Arachnotrons and Barons. I've also got Cerberus +A boots, so I can get a lot more casual about setting off lava barrels now. On the minus side, a Hyperblaster +P turns out to be a really bad idea, because that extra point of damage (plus two points of Son of a Bitch for Cateye) means it now knocks back, which means it tends to knock enemies out of vision range and then the rest of the shots miss. ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Aug 7, 2017 14:56
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vorebane posted:Yah so far hoping for a laser has not availed me when I get to the cryptark. Next time it's a high explosives affair I think. Don't bother bringing energy weapons to the Cryptark, there will be enough ammo pods around, bring as much dakka as you can possibly afford to and don't hesitate to refill on ammo and health during the mission, it's the time to spend all your savings. Also, if it's your last chance, don't hesitate to go into the negatives, you can still use the refill pods from there. My idea of stealth for the Cryptark is throwing explosives inside every room with a component and running away. If I lucked into nuclear grenades, then all the merrier.
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Aug 7, 2017 16:32
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zirconmusic posted:Hover over the ability in the skill screen and press a number 1-8, that should work. You can also drag and drop the skills into the hotbar. I was pressing the keys when the abilities were on cooldown 
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Aug 7, 2017 20:05
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Dead on level 60 to a giant swarm of Archviles, Mancubi, Nightmare Arachnotrons, and Bruiser Brothers that I spawned in the middle of. 60 levels and not a single goddamn BFG.  E: New version of doomrl-server released and live. Changes:
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Aug 7, 2017 21:50
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Wildtortilla posted:I laid in bed for an hour unable to fall asleep last night because I was thinking about playing Dmans. Fuuuck. Sometimes I can't sleep because I'm thinking about how not enough people are playing Dmans. I've ruined both our lives!
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Aug 8, 2017 02:28
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madjackmcmad posted:Sometimes I can't sleep because I'm thinking about how not enough people are playing Dmans. I've ruined both our lives! Curse you, madjackmcmad, for making a fun game!
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Aug 8, 2017 02:32
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Since the Steam launch I have played over 60 hours of Tangledeep. I think this might be an issue... Buy Tangledeep.
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Aug 8, 2017 16:58
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Not gonna lie, if you haven't bought Tangledeep you are a horrible person
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Aug 8, 2017 17:53
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but is there anywhere that has a good roguelike coding tutorial that is a bit simpler than the python + libtcod one on roguebasin? Because I get a few steps into that and get completely lost.
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Aug 9, 2017 06:23
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V for Vegas posted:Not sure if this is the right thread, but is there anywhere that has a good roguelike coding tutorial that is a bit simpler than the python + libtcod one on roguebasin? Because I get a few steps into that and get completely lost. You might want to look in here as it's an active community of people who want to help you make a roguelike. I mean this is also the right thread, but I heard that reddit did a summer of making roguelikes and they have a bunch of threads on that, so!
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Aug 9, 2017 08:07
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Converted another bunch of sprites for Dungeonmans, this time from Elminage. Genders assigned at random.  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7FVrpffUN40RlJKaHRraDJOQ0E     
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Aug 9, 2017 11:29
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Oh my. I was wondering yesterday if custom sprites for Dmans were a thing. How does one install custom sprites? Is there a website that collected/organizes them?
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Aug 9, 2017 12:35
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Extract the file I linked to C:\Users\YOUR NAME HERE\AppData\Roaming\Dungeonmans\modcontent AND GO!
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V for Vegas posted:Not sure if this is the right thread, but is there anywhere that has a good roguelike coding tutorial that is a bit simpler than the python + libtcod one on roguebasin? Because I get a few steps into that and get completely lost. StrixNebulosa posted:You might want to look in here as it's an active community of people who want to help you make a roguelike. Last winter there was an event right here in this thread where some folks went off to learn how to roguelike. Some of them are still at it, and we have a discord for talkin' 'bout roguelike making: https://discord.gg/ny4mdw It's not hyper super active but it is totally live. Also, yesterday on Twitch I used the first 90 minutes or so to help someone in there understand step 4 of the Unity roguelike tutorial. https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/projects/2d-roguelike-tutorial
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Aug 9, 2017 16:54
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Is the unity roguelike tutorial a good starting point? I've read some criticisms of it.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:56
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madjackmcmad posted:Last winter there was an event right here in this thread where some folks went off to learn how to roguelike. Some of them are still at it, and we have a discord for talkin' 'bout roguelike making: I'm that someone, and madjack is an awesome dude. I've also gotten some help from Unormal on other stuff. Goondevs best devs.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Is the unity roguelike tutorial a good starting point? I've read some criticisms of it. It does seem to totally ignore/bypass one of the most important rules of proc-gen: ensuring there's always a possible path to the exit. It gets around this by literally not bothering to generate walls around a large radius outside of the level, so if you get stuck with a bad draw you can always walk around the drat level. :P it's quite possibly the laziest solution I've ever seen. Other than that, it's pretty good at teaching the basics of turn based roguelike mechanics.
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