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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah so the only reason that the Night King is able to get through the wall is because he, through sheer dumb luck, had a dragon fall into his lap and he burned it down. What the gently caress was he planning to do if Dany never showed up? Did he read the script too? Jon was reborn to doom the entire world. 
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i81icu812 posted:detailed episode summaries are out Holy poo poo that formatting/grammar  It's a shame after how much of a threat he was built up as in the first 3-4 seasons that Littlefinger fizzles out in such anticlimactic fashion. Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah so the only reason that the Night King is able to get through the wall is because he, through sheer dumb luck, had a dragon fall into his lap and he burned it down. What the gently caress was he planning to do if Dany never showed up? Yeah that's super dumb. Without the dragon he pretty much had nothing to do but march his big fuckoff zombie army up the the wall and make faces at the Nights Watch.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah so the only reason that the Night King is able to get through the wall is because he, through sheer dumb luck, had a dragon fall into his lap and he burned it down. What the gently caress was he planning to do if Dany never showed up? Did he read the script too? I mean, obviously we'll never know, but the NK might have had a way to get through, and Viserion's death and rising made him go "gently caress it this will be easier"
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Aug 6, 2017 03:17
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aBagorn posted:I mean, obviously we'll never know, but the NK might have had a way to get through, and Viserion's death and rising made him go "gently caress it this will be easier" Replace "NK" with "the show writers"
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Aug 6, 2017 03:24
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The only excuse I could think of that would work is that it's ~destiny~ and that, like Bran, the NK has the same powers of past/future sight and knew a dragon was going to fall into his lap. It still comes off as pretty lazy writing, but at least it's a somewhat justified explanation.
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Aug 6, 2017 03:27
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drunken officeparty posted:Replace "NK" with "the show writers" The way I'd see it is that the Night King was content waiting there forever until an opportunity arose to knock down the wall somehow. Just kept building an army and walking along over time. We never knew if there was ever any plan to actually cross the wall for him at this moment. It's just assumed because they're attacking people now.
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Aug 6, 2017 03:30
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Wasn't Bran being diddled by the NK and "marked" or whatever supposed to break the wall when he went back over it. What was the whole mark thing for if not.
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i81icu812 posted:detailed episode summaries are out Nice! Sydin posted:The only excuse I could think of that would work is that it's ~destiny~ and that, like Bran, the NK has the same powers of past/future sight and knew a dragon was going to fall into his lap. It still comes off as pretty lazy writing, but at least it's a somewhat justified explanation. Between Bran's mark and their hundreds of thousand of wights, they could just climb the wall. It's 300 miles long. With 200,000 wights, at each mile, you could have a group of ~700. With 800,000 wights, at each mile, you could have a group of ~2,500. If the NK has at least 300 White Walkers, which it looks like he does, he could secure the wall and make it his.
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Aug 6, 2017 03:45
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Sydin posted:It's a shame after how much of a threat he was built up as in the first 3-4 seasons that Littlefinger fizzles out in such anticlimactic fashion. I still think that Littlefinger getting offed by Sansa/on Sansa's orders makes sense to conclude his character arc but holy poo poo if this isn't as lame an ending as it gets. Him tooling around and being utterly ineffectual for a season and a half and then getting killed as a result of some low-stakes plotting in the middle of nowhere is pretty pathetic.
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HannibalBarca posted:I still think that Littlefinger getting offed by Sansa/on Sansa's orders makes sense to conclude his character arc but holy poo poo if this isn't as lame an ending as it gets. Him tooling around and being utterly ineffectual for a season and a half and then getting killed as a result of some low-stakes plotting in the middle of nowhere is pretty pathetic. gotta tie up loose ends as we hurtle along toward the conclusion
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HannibalBarca posted:I still think that Littlefinger getting offed by Sansa/on Sansa's orders makes sense to conclude his character arc but holy poo poo if this isn't as lame an ending as it gets. Him tooling around and being utterly ineffectual for a season and a half and then getting killed as a result of some low-stakes plotting in the middle of nowhere is pretty pathetic. He should really have blackmail and Dead Man's Switches, too. It'd be much better if Sansa roped some LF-allies into this, too, with shocking poo poo (and proof) that she couldn't possibly know of or have without Yuri on her side. LF dies looking like he could've had a career at the FSB if it weren't the meddling psychic It implies he was staying busy and in the North for a reason other than his creepy stalker poo poo
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aBagorn posted:I mean, obviously we'll never know, but the NK might have had a way to get through, and Viserion's death and rising made him go "gently caress it this will be easier" This is shimra don't even bother. Just let him hate the show e: he's also a Patriots fan iirc so just let him go Barreft fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 04:26
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Barreft posted:This is shimra don't even bother. Just let him hate the show The plot is stupid and nonsensical just deal with it. Also the leaks point out all the plot teleporting with Jon going from Kings Landing to beyond the wall in one episode. And somehow Jon gets a message to Dany to come rescue them from across a continent. But who knows, maybe these specific leaks are wrong. This seems to be coming from one dude so maybe he's full of poo poo.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Why do they need to capture a wight? Just go like 10 feet past the wall and kill some random dude and have him rez in a cage. Or gently caress it kill an animal since its already established they rez too. Why is every plan on this show so loving dumb It's also hilarious because sans the 2 Night Watch dudes that were carried to the other side of the Wall and the Three Eyed Raven's Tree House campers, the zombies have always been travelling in a huge gtfo pack. Hell, Jon and co. don't even know about the last group so they have effectively never seen a lost zombie. Like really, what was Jon's plan? Find a zombie who separated from the group to take a poo poo? Wait for the army of the immortal to doze off and chloroform one away? He calls it "ranging" but the correct term is "low level solo boss rush the final dungeon" Shimrra Jamaane posted:The plot is stupid and nonsensical just deal with it. The leaks are not wrong. Follow your own advise and accept that the plot will be stupid and nonsensical, but the fights look pretty so rate 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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As a book reader originally I don't even care anymore if it's just checking off plot points. It looks pretty and we'll actually get a conclusion. More than I can say for whatever the gently caress GRRM is doing
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man I was really hoping Cersei would die this season and they'd wrap up whatever King's Landing bullshit is left.
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also Hound and the Mountain in KL and we don't even get Cleganebowl? come on.
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nooneofconsequence posted:man I was really hoping Cersei would die this season and they'd wrap up whatever King's Landing bullshit is left. There's still two conflicts left to wrap up: lannisters v starks and zombies v dragons. These two conflicts define the show/books and are set up from the very first chapter/episode so they can't wrap up till the very end. That's why Danny conveniently managed to lose two armies and a fleet despite having three dragons. And even with the transparent attempts to make the Lannister threat more credible they're still running out of armies. So expect cercei to magic up a new army next season just like how she summoned a fleet this season.
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nooneofconsequence posted:man I was really hoping Cersei would die this season and they'd wrap up whatever King's Landing bullshit is left. Me too, but the show just isn't capable enough to have a full season dedicated to the living vs dead war. Cersei and Euron survive to offer a sidequest for the first 4 episodes, and then after 7 seasons of build up the war against the Night's King gets resolved in 2 episodes: 1 were the good guys are getting their asses handed and the last one where yadda yadda yadda east dawn 5th morning and good guys turn the tide around. Or even worse. Night's King war is the first 2 episodes and THEN the Cersei is revealed as the final boss of the show for the last 4 episodes. Please I hope it's this 
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Aug 6, 2017 05:02
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The wall was always going to fall at the end of the second-to-last season. It's kinda dumb that they had to put in a literal Yugi-Oh joke as a plot point.
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i81icu812 posted:There's still two conflicts left to wrap up: lannisters v starks and zombies v dragons. I wish they could have at least had Tyrion or Jamie take over the Lannister side by this point to make it a little more interesting. I'm so bored of Cersei.
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nooneofconsequence posted:I wish they could have at least had Tyrion or Jamie take over the Lannister side by this point to make it a little more interesting. I'm so bored of Cersei. Good King Tommen would have made a much better foil for Daenerys.
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Sydin posted:It's a shame after how much of a threat he was built up as in the first 3-4 seasons that Littlefinger fizzles out in such anticlimactic fashion. That's actually my biggest problem with the leaked plot. Littlefinger just doesn't seem dumb enough to try to drive a wedge between members of the Stark family, who are among the few noble families that are not completely dysfunctional. Is it supposed to be arrogance because he has been able to achieve so much that now he is trying to do something that is beyond his abilities? It just doesn't seem right to me, especially after the clear gently caress-up he made regarding Sansa and the Boltons. After a shitshow like that, LF should be treading very carefully and not trying to continue loving around with Sansa who is clearly onto his game. LF has turned into an idiot. But... show's wrapping up, so poo poo needs to get cleaned up. Bleh.
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I just lost my poo poo when they callbacked the "Chaos is a laddah" line Like do the show-runners really think that was actually a good line?
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That Indian censor company leaked a whole episode and all those spoilers this season. I wonder if HBO is going to sue them.
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Aug 6, 2017 06:05
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And gently caress with a one and a half billion potential viewer market
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Littlefinger gets the Stannis treatment. The writers got bored of him or stuck in a time crunch so the character does nonsensical things and meets an ignoble, unjustified end.
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lezard_valeth posted:I just lost my poo poo when they callbacked the "Chaos is a laddah" line Who cares. Bran blowing up Littlefinger's spot was loving dope though
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Chances are the wall is going to get taken down by the horn of Joramun in the books and they had to think of some other way to do it in the show.
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Adun posted:Who cares. Bran blowing up Littlefinger's spot was loving dope though Oh I agree. A lot of people are against autistic Bran but I'm all on board of someone in-universe carrying The Script around. It fits the show perfectly.
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TOOT BOOT posted:Chances are the wall is going to get taken down by the horn of Joramun in the books and they had to think of some other way to do it in the show. I'm sure we'll find out in 2027.
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Fun observation: Both Littlefinger and Dany were right when they said it would be smarter to focus on the southern conflict first, given that we now know that the NK needed someone to bring him a loving dragon to cross the wall.
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drunken officeparty posted:And gently caress with a one and a half billion potential viewer market You don't have to sue for billions. Just a few million to ensure a few lower heads will roll to prevent anybody from getting ideas in the future.
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i81icu812 posted:detailed episode summaries are out quote:Davos being the smuggler he is tells them they are traders to which the gold cloaks ask them what they trade to which Davos says they trade aphrodisiac crabs (aphrodisiac is a food that stimulates sexual desire.. westerosi Viagra?)
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Night King has a shitzillion skellymans and zombies. He'll just stack em on top of each other and mount the wall that way. Easy!
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Tenzarin posted:Think the three eye raven can masterbate in his flashback visions without being seen? He can even time travel and have an effect on stuff. If he went to some super magical person like magi the frog or quaithe, assuming they aren't charlatans, I think they could probably bang.
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Varam posted:Good King Tommen would have made a much better foil for Daenerys. Yeah that could actually have been really good. Cersei could still be basically in charge but Tommen as a Peoples Champion But Not Really as like a populist theocracy against Still A Feudalist Ignore That Smashing The Wheel Stuff Dany would be an improvement over what we're getting. It would set up a 'but seriously though things have to change' that GRRM keeps making clear too. Adun posted:As a book reader originally I don't even care anymore if it's just checking off plot points. It looks pretty and we'll actually get a conclusion. More than I can say for whatever the gently caress GRRM is doing Not only are the last books going to come out, they are going to be good.
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Adun posted:I'm sure we'll find out in 2027. Are you a time traveler from 2012?
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