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People won't care unless it's a village full of white American dead bodies.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 21:08 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 06:48 |
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enraged_camel posted:People won't care unless it's a village full of white American dead bodies. Air conditioning during the height of these events will stop it so good luck on seeing a first world village heat massacre.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 21:36 |
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Climate misanthropy is a weird cult.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 21:50 |
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TildeATH posted:Air conditioning during the height of these events will stop it so good luck on seeing a first world village heat massacre.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 22:08 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Just count on the American electrical grid to get overloaded due to everyone running their AC, causing a massive blackout that leaves millions without any way to cool down. Powerwall x2 with inverters built-in $30,000 of solar panels and insulation (including installation) you too can enjoy grid independence and ride out the storm in comfort, shame about those poors
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 22:13 |
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Thug Lessons posted:Climate misanthropy is a weird cult. its a weird sloping curve where no one seems to be able to find their balance at the "our children and grandchildren are hosed and tens to hundreds of millions will die, but realistically all of human history is littered with suffering and death so the species and even civilization will go on" point
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 22:29 |
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How do I long the ice market for when blackouts make commodity prices for it shoot thru the roof?
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 22:39 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Just count on the American electrical grid to get overloaded due to everyone running their AC, causing a massive blackout that leaves millions without any way to cool down. Luckily solar and a/c usage track well.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 23:21 |
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TildeATH posted:Air conditioning during the height of these events will stop it so good luck on seeing a first world village heat massacre. Last time I checked, air conditioning doesn't prevent massive forest fires.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 23:40 |
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enraged_camel posted:Last time I checked, air conditioning doesn't prevent massive forest fires. You need trees to live for there to be forests, duh.
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# ? Aug 4, 2017 23:56 |
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we won't see hundreds of thousands dead from heat waves in the first world because, yes, air conditioning. however, as the price of energy skyrockets, sooner or later people just won't be able to turn their air conditioning on - the rich will be safe as always, but there will absolutely be white die-offs in areas with high humidity, especially as the baby boomers flock to the tropics for their retirement. what will kill people in the first world is floods, fires, civil unrest over food and water shortages, and what is currently the great unknown - disease. i don't want to sound like i'm rubbing my hands with delight here because i'm not, i'm terrified, but while i always thought accelerationists were hosed up and gross the current situation has kind of left me with no choice except to hope things get really bad really quickly because there is absolutely nothing else that will force the change that we need
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 00:11 |
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CNN has had climate change articles as their front page twice now this week.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 02:56 |
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Richard Engel on Assignment on msnbc tonight covered energy and climate policy all episode. It was pretty good. Didn't realize India's e-car industry was ramping up so much.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 03:08 |
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Pander posted:Richard Engel on Assignment on msnbc tonight covered energy and climate policy all episode. It was pretty good. Didn't realize India's e-car industry was ramping up so much. Seems that many countries across the pond are taking real steps to reduce their carbon footprint. Unless some more practical technology comes into existence that can remove the existing CO2 from the atmosphere, we are still hosed for centuries, but it still gives me hope to see action at the national level in these countries.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 03:15 |
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StabbinHobo posted:its a weird sloping curve where no one seems to be able to find their balance at the "our children and grandchildren are hosed and tens to hundreds of millions will die, but realistically all of human history is littered with suffering and death so the species and even civilization will go on" point It shouldn't be on a curve, though. Writing off suffering as a "well, it happens /shrug" is no comfort to the dying (outside practitioners of stoicism) and is a very American Christian / 20th Century Conservative way of approaching morality. You shouldn't make decisions on a "well we can sac X population, that's life" basis. That's kinda hosed.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 03:51 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Luckily solar and a/c usage track well.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 05:45 |
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the old ceremony posted:we won't see hundreds of thousands dead from heat waves in the first world because, yes, air conditioning. however, as the price of energy skyrockets, sooner or later people just won't be able to turn their air conditioning on - the rich will be safe as always, but there will absolutely be white die-offs in areas with high humidity, especially as the baby boomers flock to the tropics for their retirement. what will kill people in the first world is floods, fires, civil unrest over food and water shortages, and what is currently the great unknown - disease. yea, like accelerationism is morally bankrupt as gently caress, but a few good acute outlier events earlier rather than later are realistically the only thing that will provoke an appropriately scaled reaction
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 06:20 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I don't think it's necessarily a matter of production not meeting demand, but demand not being able to be fulfilled due to bottlenecks in the grid It can be on or the other or both. AC puts huge strain on electricity grids during heat waves. In aus the last one saw the electrity price meet the legislated maximum of $14/kwh. There just wasn't enough supply. And thousands have already died due to heat waves in the first world. Old and frail people mostly, well the poor ones. Expect this to increase.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 13:10 |
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Potato Salad posted:Powerwall x2 with inverters built-in What you could do is make places for the poors to have refuge during the heat waves. Something with built in AC. Like a mall. Maybe the filthy fuckers will unfuck money for some lovely overpriced items in the stores when they are forced to flock there. Also we could put ads on the walls for some useless garbage so the poors are forced to see them. edit: sad truth is, nobody will do anything until there's profit in being carbon neutral or better. And even though the renewable market is growing, there's still no real buck to be made. dex_sda fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 5, 2017 |
# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:08 |
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dex_sda posted:What you could do is make places for the poors to have refuge during the heat waves. Something with built in AC. Like a mall. Maybe the filthy fuckers will unfuck money for some lovely overpriced items in the stores when they are forced to flock there. Also we could put ads on the walls for some useless garbage so the poors are forced to see them.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:09 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Just make new homes for the poor be underground. Are we trying to make Deus Ex happen for real
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:11 |
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dex_sda posted:Are we trying to make Deus Ex happen for real Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:20 |
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dex_sda posted:What you could do is make places for the poors to have refuge during the heat waves. Something with built in AC. Like a mall. Maybe the filthy fuckers will unfuck money for some lovely overpriced items in the stores when they are forced to flock there. Also we could put ads on the walls for some useless garbage so the poors are forced to see them. Heat Refuges are a thing resilience minded communities are already doing. Last heat wave it was the libraries, senior center and city hall near where I live. http://coolme.today
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:23 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Heat Refuges are a thing resilience minded communities are already doing. Last heat wave it was the libraries, senior center and city hall near where I live. Wow. I didn't know this.
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:30 |
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dex_sda posted:Are we trying to make Deus Ex happen for real
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 17:34 |
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Potato Salad posted:Powerwall x2 with inverters built-in Couldn't your solar panels be stolen very easily?
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 19:26 |
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nah that's what gun ownership is for I see zero potential problems with expecting that I'll be able to keep the do you have a moment, by the way, to hear about voting Libertarian?
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# ? Aug 5, 2017 20:04 |
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Not unless those corpses are white people from a first world nation. And even then I'd put it at like 50/50 odds. I would put the odds at 0. 2003 Euro heat wave quote:Peer-reviewed analysis places the European death toll at more than 70,000
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 04:14 |
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Human civilization has never faced a threat like climate change before, it's pretty weird to bring up trivial poo poo that humanity has shrugged off before in comparison
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 04:39 |
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call to action posted:Human civilization has never faced a threat like climate change before, it's pretty weird to bring up trivial poo poo that humanity has shrugged off before in comparison The Toba supervolcano Which I guess counts as PAST climate change
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 05:14 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:The Toba supervolcano
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 06:13 |
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Apparently Tampa Bay's hurricane preparation plan relies almost totally on hope and prayers; everything else is inadequate or nonexistent: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.eb303e46e74equote:Tampa Bay is mesmerizing, with 700 miles of shoreline and some of the finest white sand beaches in the nation. But analysts say the metropolitan area is the most vulnerable in the United States to flooding and damage if a major hurricane ever scores a direct hit.
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 12:20 |
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Sherman didnt go far enough
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 16:32 |
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got any sevens posted:Sherman didnt go far enough It wouldn't have mattered, he burnt Atlanta to the ground and they were still loving idiots when they rebuilt. Five million one way roads all called Peachtree
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 16:44 |
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Climate change destroying Florida is one of several reasons I'm okay with all of this
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 17:10 |
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Evil_Greven posted:I would put the odds at 0. again you're still not getting the point thats over the course of a continent over the course of months and required retroactive peer reviewed studies to get to that number i'm talking about a vice episode where some shithead with a gopro tours a pakistani village where whole extended families bodies are piled up near the bus stop what provokes fear and reactions in people is things happening faster than they can re-act. nobody is afraid of a heat wave that kills a marginally greater number of old people per month. whereas a villiage full of corpses that all died at once because they couldn't flee fast enough would provoke a *completely* different reaction. anyway this is a dumb disaster porn tangent that really just serves as a good example of why forums threads are such a pointless waste of time
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# ? Aug 6, 2017 17:22 |
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Thalantos posted:It wouldn't have mattered, he burnt Atlanta to the ground and they were still loving idiots when they rebuilt. Gonna confound the northern aggressors the next time around. Defeat the Yanks through the accumulated cost of "wrong way" tickets accrued by the drone tanks.
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# ? Aug 7, 2017 05:05 |
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This has now become the military history thread. Is this the future?
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# ? Aug 7, 2017 05:20 |
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FourLeaf posted:Apparently Tampa Bay's hurricane preparation plan relies almost totally on hope and prayers; everything else is inadequate or nonexistent: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.eb303e46e74e Is Tampa Bay a conservative hell hole part of Florida?
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# ? Aug 7, 2017 07:51 |
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BattleMoose posted:This has now become the military history thread. Is this the future? If you came here from the beginning of the Arab Spring then yes!
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