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MonsterEnvy posted:I see more as shepherding Cultists. Who benefit most form the buffs Dark Apostles give. That makes sense. It's still a cool, unique spin on a Chaos army, compared to the other ones that (at least ideally) are more Marine focused.
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Cross-Posting the Brownest Chapter ever: the appropriately named SA gently caress Rhinox Hide, such a bitch to highlight... Stealth Avengers (SA for short). SA was founded during the 69th AKA Goony Founding using Geneseed from both missing Primarch's. They were the first chapter to successfully create female Space Marines and they awoke the Emperor from his nap for a chat to let him know about the Stupid Newbie Primarch Bobby Girlyman's plans to take over the Imperium of (wo)man. The Emperor was glad of the news as Girlyman had already had a meeting with him in private and was informed of SA's Chapter Tactics of using Psyker's to shitpost through the Warp to the other chapters. For punishment the Emperor made the once proud Chapter go on a Penitent Crusade to the Reddit Sector in the Maelstrom. It was during their jaunt through the Reddit Sector, hence forth know as the Brown Sea that their once gleaming armour became covered in brown, maybe the Chaos gods were The Chapter was last seen griefing everybody they came across in the warp, one battle brother however was recently spotted by an Imperial Servitor drone (camera phone and LED bulb) and the captured image below has been sent to every Ordo.  (The Logo is SA with Goon fading out below it, because it's stealthy  )
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SRM posted:My buddy came up with the list on his own when reading through the Tau index and was excited to see all his Fire Warriors would be useful, the Wolves guy was just really salty. I expect at least part of it is that when you go and look at what people are doing with Tau it is either commander spam or infantry spam, and since most people never played Tau for inf they made the assumption that they were netlisting. 
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Hold up. I'm listening to the independent characters podcast, and they're talking about how Cawl has the genetic coding for 20 Space Marine Legions. Where is this from? The Dark Imperium book?
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Zuul the Cat posted:Hold up. I'm listening to the independent characters podcast, and they're talking about how Cawl has the genetic coding for 20 Space Marine Legions. I'm not sure where exactly but he has an artifact that contains the juice from all 20 original primarchs, including the traitors and the two lost ones. I think Gulliman gave it to him.
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General Olloth posted:So I'm looking at the Dark Eldar range online and why is half the plastic kits webstore exclusive? That's kinda stupid? They're repackaging a bunch of stuff for 8th, it's probably that
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Zuul the Cat posted:Hold up. I'm listening to the independent characters podcast, and they're talking about how Cawl has the genetic coding for 20 Space Marine Legions. It comes up in Dark Imperium. Cawl claims he's already started making Primaris based on the pure stocks of Traitor geneseed and Bobby goes off on a rant. They argue and Cawl makes it clear he's just gonna continue is private.
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Corrode posted:They're repackaging a bunch of stuff for 8th, it's probably that They did the same thing in fantasy: take the three elf factions, slap them together, and get rid of the redundant kits. Probably that more likely.
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Resin kits generally get taken from physical stores, due to resin being a pain to work with. Eldar aren't getting amalgamated any time soon.
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I really hope this means I'll be seeing Word Bearers running piles of cultists and just ripping greater daemons out of the warp.
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moths posted:I really hope this means I'll be seeing Word Bearers running piles of cultists and just ripping greater daemons out of the warp. Anyone better at math than me wanna run the numbers on how often 3d6 with partial rerolls will hit certain breakpoints?
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Aug 6, 2017 23:01
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More importantly, a primaris ultramarines upgrade sprue. 
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It'd be even better if they named it World Eaters Upgrade Box.
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Who wants an imgur gallery of pictures of warhams games! I was even playing some of them! http://imgur.com/a/dXbXw ElBrak fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Before this game, I said to Missus Optional, "I dunno about bringing a plane to a game on a 4 foot table. I think he's gonna fly it off the table by turn 3." Bottom of turn two, his Blitza-Bommer ends up an inch and a half away from the table edge. Now I feel like a drat fool for shooting at it.
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Had a short game today with a necron player that got called for time. Highlight was my contemptor wiping a wraith unit in one fight phase, he failed 3 of the 4 invuln saves for 3 damage a hit.  First game of the day was vs tyranids. 1000 points. I had a captain, a jump pack Lt, 5 vanguard, contemptor, 5 scouts, 2 5-man tac squads, predator, razorback. He had flyrant, broodlord,, hive crone or harpy I forget which (It had barbed stranglers), malaceptor, 3 warriors, 2 10-model genestealer broods I won the game 9-8. He got some good luck early on when my contemptor completely failed to kill his malaceptor for 2 turns and then got smited to death, and my captain couldn't land a single wound on his flyrant with a relic blade and got killed despite armor indomitus. But I basically shot the poo poo out of him, overcharged plasma gunners in the razorback tore into his MCs, along with my predator's lascannons. Razorback's assault cannon scythed through genestealers, since they were small broods I was able to quickly neuter them with a few casualties. My jump pack guys failed their charges despite the konor stratagem for +1 charge range and got eaten by the genestealers, and so did my scouts, but the two tac squads and the two tanks ran the table. The malaceptor was hot garbage, he just had decent rolls with his invuln saves and managed to get hits on my contemptor even when degraded to WS 6+. I watched my friend Dan (The guy that uses armies of nothing but gaunts and genestealers) play that same guy after me, and Dan utterly annihilated him. Dan's 1000 point army was I think 56 genestealers and 2 broodlords. He got a turn 1 charge in and I think he tabled him by turn 3.
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This is a long shot, but does anyone have a spare razorback heavy bolter or Crusader assault cannon turret? I'm not a fan of the third party ones generally and I want to make my Land Raider as versatile as Uroboros' sweet one a few pages back.
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moths posted:I really hope this means I'll be seeing Word Bearers running piles of cultists and just ripping greater daemons out of the warp. God, I hope. Tactics in general seem to be differentiating troop makeup to a degree, but I'm feeling like World Bearers are getting it the most uniquely.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Anyone better at math than me wanna run the numbers on how often 3d6 with partial rerolls will hit certain breakpoints? The Keeper of Secrets only takes an 11, and you don't need to declare you're going for a Greater. So if 3.5 averages, you're already looking at 10.5 average on three dice, before the reroll. But what's really nice is that if you DON'T get it, you can still summon daemonettes, chariot, fiends, or any of the other crazy things in the Slaanesh stable. I didn't realize Khorne only has the Bloodthirsters of ____. Which are 17s, so good luck there.
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moths posted:I really hope this means I'll be seeing Word Bearers running piles of cultists and just ripping greater daemons out of the warp. I've been looking for a reason to use the cultists, DV Chosen, and plastic Greater Daemons. This sounds like a good way to do that.
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Played and lost hard this evening - I decided to tone it down and take a zany list, because I thought my friends were growing sick of slogging against my Imperial Guard army. So I took some zany inquisition stuff and one of each assassin type in a 1k game. This unfortunately coincided with my opponent deciding his Tyranid lists weren't working, so he arrived with 90 termagants and 2 Tervigons! Something of a mismatch. Nothing I could really do to his army, so I just got slowly swarmed to death. Tabled in turn 6. Obviously not their ideal targets, but even so I was struck by how pointless Inquisitors are now. The assassins and ministorum close combat squads (Crusaders and Death Cult Assassins) that I took, I can see where they would be useful. The Inquisitors are just overpriced Psykers, they have no real benefit over a Primaris Psyker and their buffs to other models are negligible.
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SRM posted:This is a long shot, but does anyone have a spare razorback heavy bolter or Crusader assault cannon turret? I'm not a fan of the third party ones generally and I want to make my Land Raider as versatile as Uroboros' sweet one a few pages back. I think I have some razorback heavy bolters sitting around somewhere. This is just the guns and not the turret assembly though. If you're interested I can double check when I get home and you can just have them.
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moths posted:The Keeper of Secrets only takes an 11, and you don't need to declare you're going for a Greater. So if 3.5 averages, you're already looking at 10.5 average on three dice, before the reroll. Yeah, if you want greater demons to be cheap, easy, and reliable, Slaanesh and Nurgle are your best bets. A lot of Nurgle's units are cheap and easy to summon, although that benefit is somewhat hindered by the Word Bearers making rerolls so easy, but even on a bad roll you could summon two Beasts of Nurgle to protect your troops via Heroic Interventions or drag Epidemius out to buff up the rest of your Nurgle demons. Meanwhile, a roll of 15 (a high target but not too uncommon, especially when you can pick and choose which dice to reroll) can give you a clump of 30 Plaguebearers, 6 Plague Drones, or let the Great Unclean One come rolling out. I'm sure the Death Guard Codex will add a Nurgle demon here or there to serve as good options too, including those multi-legged slug things.
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Holy gently caress, Fury of Khorne strategem letting heretic astartes immediately fight again at the end of the fight phase is going to obliterate poo poo off the table. Edit: especially Khorne Berzerkers Fight, pile in, fight, pile in, fight, pile in. Bye bye imperium gunline. 
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Genghis Cohen posted:Played and lost hard this evening - I decided to tone it down and take a zany list, because I thought my friends were growing sick of slogging against my Imperial Guard army. So I took some zany inquisition stuff and one of each assassin type in a 1k game. This unfortunately coincided with my opponent deciding his Tyranid lists weren't working, so he arrived with 90 termagants and 2 Tervigons! Something of a mismatch. Nothing I could really do to his army, so I just got slowly swarmed to death. Tabled in turn 6. Obviously not their ideal targets, but even so I was struck by how pointless Inquisitors are now. The assassins and ministorum close combat squads (Crusaders and Death Cult Assassins) that I took, I can see where they would be useful. The Inquisitors are just overpriced Psykers, they have no real benefit over a Primaris Psyker and their buffs to other models are negligible. I like Greyfax, but I can't see the use of a normal inquisitor.
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:Holy gently caress, Fury of Khorne strategem letting heretic astartes immediately fight again at the end of the fight phase is going to obliterate poo poo off the table. It's twice in the fight phase, rather than fight twice each time they're called to fight. So I think they'd only get three fights. That said, it's an insane combo, especially when you don't even need to be World Eaters to use that stratagem. Hell, I'd almost argue for Alpha Legion Berzerkers, since you can spend another command point to drop them right in your opponent's face and ensure you can get right to demolishing their gunline.
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:Holy gently caress, Fury of Khorne strategem letting heretic astartes immediately fight again at the end of the fight phase is going to obliterate poo poo off the table. Yeah but you've got to declare charges on all of that gunline, or else when you pile in you can't attack them.
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Screening units with flamers are becoming increasingly important against assault armies. I think most players would be hesitant to agressively multi-assault when they know this will mean eating overwatch from multiple auto-hitting weapons.
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So with land speeders getting a price reduction, thinking about using a storm as a scout bunker. Give it a heavy bolter and set it up somewhere in my deployment with a squad of sniper scouts, maybe give one a missile launcher. Gives them a T5 W7 bunker to hide in, and if it doesn't die it'll deliver obsec scouts somwhere late game. If it does die they just step out of it and keep shooting.
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After assembling almost all of Dark Imperium it would seem that I am missing a base for one of the Death Guard characters Is this a common occurrence with the Best Edition We've Been Waiting For
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goose willis posted:After assembling almost all of Dark Imperium it would seem that I am missing a base for one of the Death Guard characters Yes definitely missing one base is indicative of a terrible edition.
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If I contacted GW support are they gonna be like "haha gently caress off" or are they gonna mail me a base for the cool Nurgle dude with all the bells
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Texmo posted:Why not call them and find out? He could probably even email them to minimize any need of social interaction!
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Two games deep into the Konor campaign, and I gotta say, if I was a xenos player I'd be pretty unhappy with it. First week assigned a side to Imperium players (which means the majority of players IIRC) and that side had a pretty big advantage in terms of victory conditions. This week, basically every xenos race except Necrons that fights any flavor of Marines will get hosed out of victory points. Top all this off with the SM Codex giving SM players way more options for the first two weeks and it doesn't seem super balanced, and I say that as a Marines player.
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PantsOptional posted:Two games deep into the Konor campaign, and I gotta say, if I was a xenos player I'd be pretty unhappy with it. First week assigned a side to Imperium players (which means the majority of players IIRC) and that side had a pretty big advantage in terms of victory conditions. This week, basically every xenos race except Necrons that fights any flavor of Marines will get hosed out of victory points. Top all this off with the SM Codex giving SM players way more options for the first two weeks and it doesn't seem super balanced, and I say that as a Marines player. Yeah. Doubling victory points if you have a 2+ or 3+ save is laughable. The xenos players here responded with battlesuit tau, immortal/lychguard necrons, and nidzilla from what I saw.
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