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I wish more bookstores stocked Vann By more I mean any, at all
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come to spain, vann was the new fad here late last year
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Aug 5, 2017 19:19
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Burning Rain posted:come to spain, vann was the new fad here late last year He's actually pretty popular in Europe, has won more awards from the European industry than domestic
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Aug 5, 2017 19:20
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lol @bookstores
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Aug 5, 2017 20:18
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Not aquarium? Why do you keep recommending people read a fairly mediocre book?
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Aug 5, 2017 20:52
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Your mediocre pal
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Aug 5, 2017 22:43
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Your mediocre pal Don't sign your posts
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Aug 5, 2017 22:45
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gently caress
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Aug 5, 2017 22:46
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Your mediocre pal is that a new neapolitan trilogy spinoff
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Aug 5, 2017 22:52
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Cloks posted:Don't sign your posts
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Aug 5, 2017 22:53
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Cloks posted:Don't sign your posts rekt
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Aug 5, 2017 22:54
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Cloks posted:Don't sign your posts nice
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Aug 5, 2017 22:58
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Im not owned ok
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Aug 5, 2017 23:09
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Aug 5, 2017 23:10
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Just started Larry Kramer's [bThe American People[/b]. First 20 pages are extremely my poo poo. Good/bad opinion? I'll hang up and take my answer offline.
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Aug 6, 2017 03:35
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Department of Speculation by Jenny Offil is p good.
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Aug 6, 2017 14:34
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Im not owned ok https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561
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Aug 6, 2017 15:24
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reading the red-haired woman by orhan pamuk rn and it's aight, fam
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Reading Sabbath's Theatre by Philip Roth at the moment. Highly recommend, though it's very different from American Pastoral or The Human Stain (just assuming most people would be familiar with these as they're the most popular). Both of those are about essentially noble characters laid low by forces they can't control or understand. Pastoral is almost humorous in a King of the Hill kind of way, seeing this straight-laced Mr. America be subjected to the most ridiculous, vile treatment possible. There's a scene where he discovers his daughter living in absolute squalour after years of separation and proceeds to vomit in her face after getting a whiff of how bad she smells. But you ultimately feel a strong sympathy for them, there's a real sense that something good has been broken by the end. Sabbath's Theatre is about the sexual exploits of an old, fat, arthritic, goatish pupeteer who has devoted his entire life to sex. He's a complete predatory degenerate with basically no redeeming qualities. He is genuinely disgusting to read about, to spend time in his mind is to feel tainted afterwards. And it's just amazing that Roth was able to pivot away from the essential nobility of the characters in Stain and Pastoral and inhabit this guy who has complete disdain for the idea of nobility or good or morality. I suppose it's not that surprising if you consider that there's a strong theme of trangressiveness and the brutal stupidity of human nature in Stain and Pastoral but it's so fully deployed here. He takes this character of Mickey Sabbath and just delights in his depravity, never shies away from it to morally condemn him. Representative quote: “Yes, yes, yes, he felt uncontrollable tenderness for his own poo poo-filled life. And a laughable hunger for more. More defeat! More disappointment! More deceit! More loneliness! More arthritis! More missionaries! God willing, more oval office! More disastrous entanglement in everything. For a pure sense of being tumultuously alive, you can't beat the nasty side of existence.”
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Aug 6, 2017 22:49
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That sounds bad
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SoCoRoBo posted:Sabbath's Theatre is about the sexual exploits of an old, fat, arthritic, goatish pupeteer who has devoted his entire life to sex. nah im good thanks
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Aug 6, 2017 23:41
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I'm reading the Canterbury Tales for the first time since I was ine school at like 12. It's much better than I thought it was then, through a combination of being stupid, reading some kind of terrible translation and the fact we didn't do the tales where students revenge gently caress people's wives
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SoCoRoBo posted:Sabbath's Theatre is about the sexual exploits of an old, fat, arthritic, goatish pupeteer who has devoted his entire life to sex. He's a complete predatory degenerate with basically no redeeming qualities. think we should file this one under self help, too 
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Aug 7, 2017 00:34
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People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied.
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CestMoi posted:People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied. this pedagogical puritanism is the only reason i can think of why schoolchildren still read robert frost, who is my enemy.
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Aug 7, 2017 00:58
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SoCoRoBo posted:Sabbath's Theatre is about the sexual exploits of an old, fat, arthritic, goatish pupeteer who has devoted his entire life to sex. He's a complete predatory degenerate with basically no redeeming qualities. So it's his autobiography CestMoi posted:People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied. Imagine if more people were introduced to classic literature with Chaucer and Boccaccio
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Philip Roth ambiguates me thoroughly. Some of his work is very good, some of it is very bad, and some of it is distinctly uninteresting. Even within the same novel. I hesitate to read anything more from him because it feels a lot like shooting craps and a novel's worth of crapshooting usually means I have lost my money and am drunk.
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Philip Roth and Ian McEwan are where the stereotype that Real Big Boy Lit is about horny English professors trying to gently caress their students comes from IMO
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CestMoi posted:People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied. He'll yea
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CestMoi posted:People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied. I honestly don't understand why I initially hated you because now I see the light; you are a god of tbb
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CestMoi posted:People would enjoy poetry a lot more if they were taught the poems where people are explicitly very horny, rather than leading with the ones where their extreme horniness is implied. I'm all for teaching Rimbaud in school
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mdemone posted:Philip Roth ambiguates me thoroughly. Nice sentence
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actually; he' s good
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mdemone posted:Philip Roth ambiguates me thoroughly. Some of his work is very good, some of it is very bad, and some of it is distinctly uninteresting. Even within the same novel. I'd definitely recommend American Pastoral if you get the chance. It's nominally about the possibility of American sincerity/rationalism/exceptionalism and how flimsy those ideals really are. Obviously not the most novel theme in the world but what I think elevates it is that that's extended to a more abstract level, about the conflict between reason and unreason, the idea that your life can be organised along rational, predictable principles. If you want to relate it to the dominant conflict of the internet age: sincerity versus irony. Burning Rain posted:actually; he' s good He is! Lightning Lord posted:Philip Roth and Ian McEwan are where the stereotype that Real Big Boy Lit is about horny English professors trying to gently caress their students comes from IMO That doesn't describe any of his best work tbf. He definitely has his preoccupations but when he's on form he's genuinely great.
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For whom the bell tolls is pretty meh so far is Hemmingway one of those writers everyone loves because he's so mediocre and everyman, or what?
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I don't know why people may or may not like Hemingway derp. What I do know is that the Hemingway bits in recognitions, which I am reading right now, are very good.
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A friend told me that Kenzaburo Oe was the anti-Murakami. Can anyone familiar with his work tell me which of his books to read first?
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Aug 7, 2017 17:44
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derp posted:For whom the bell tolls is pretty meh so far I generally enjoy him, but I found For Whom the Bell Tolls way overlong for his style.
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anyone know if there's a translation of the Avellaneda sequel to don Quixote? e: nevermind VileLL fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Cloks posted:A friend told me that Kenzaburo Oe was the anti-Murakami. Can anyone familiar with his work tell me which of his books to read first? Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids or A Personal Matter A Personal Matter is his masterpiece but I hate the ending. Don't read Somersault
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