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CapnAndy posted:Hal Jordan and before everyone gets out the whackin' sticks, come on now, Kyle's book had gotten extremely dire and Rebirth is why the Green Lanterns are a cornerstone of the DCU who can support multiple titles now that are actually good. Yeah but Hal Jordan himself became a worse character for it.
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CapnAndy posted:Hal Jordan and before everyone gets out the whackin' sticks, come on now, Kyle's book had gotten extremely dire and Rebirth is why the Green Lanterns are a cornerstone of the DCU who can support multiple titles now that are actually good. I was going to say Hal Jordan until Johns ran out of ideas
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CzarChasm posted:1) Superman Swamp Thing
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I'm sure at least one of Jean Grey's resurrections improved an X-book somewhere along the line.
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ecavalli posted:I'm sure at least one of Jean Grey's resurrections improved an X-book somewhere along the line. If we count it, then her first "resurrection" into Phoenix early on in Claremont's run.
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Roth posted:If we count it, then her first "resurrection" into Phoenix early on in Claremont's run. That's what I was leaning towards, but that resurrection didn't get notably good until she went from Phoenix to Dark Phoenix. On the other hand, any form of Phoenix beats the milquetoast reminder of 1960s-era sexuality that is Marvel Girl, so yeah, it's definitely a step up from the previous status quo.
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The Punisher died and then became an angel and then was redeemed by Garth Ennis. Does that count?
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I still think Angel Punisher wasn't a bad idea, just a badly-written one. Frankencastle was amazing, for example.
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Lurdiak posted:I still think Angel Punisher wasn't a bad idea, just a badly-written one. Frankencastle was amazing, for example. While agreeing with Lurdiak is painful, this is 100% true. Angel Punisher could have been amazing in the hands of the right creators.
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Wasn't Mary Jane dead at some point? Spider-Man comics are definitely better with her in them than without.DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Angel Punisher could have been amazing in the hands of the right creators. I'd say that's the case for most general ideas. I say that mostly because there are a bunch of stupid ideas that ended up working out against all odds.
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SonicRulez posted:Wasn't Mary Jane dead at some point? Spider-Man comics are definitely better with her in them than without. Norman Osborn died in 1973 and came back in 1996. Kraven killed himself in 1987 and came back a few years ago. Harry Osborn died in 1993 and came back in 2008. Doctor Octopus was killed by Kaine during the Clone Saga but got resurrected by the Hand a couple of years later. Aunt May died in 1995 and came back a couple of years later at the end of the Clone Saga. Mary Jane was "dead" for about a year and a half in 2000-2001, or I guess stalked by a mutant who teleported her off of an airplane right before it blew up and kept her kidnapped? Both Ben Reilly and Kaine were killed at the end of the Clone Saga but are back now. Probably most of his other villains/sidekicks were apparently killed at some point (Rhino, Electro, Silver Sable, Kingpin, Kingpin and Carnage several times apiece just in the past decade) I feel like those are more "they're gone.... OR ARE THEY" tropes than full on "we're going to tell stories about their deaths" though I guess Spider-Man got mega-mopey about Sable dying, until he forgot about it.
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Is the general consensus that Hellboy (possible spoiler for the end of the Hellboy series) left hell for heaven at the very end of "The Descent" when he walked upstairs into that rundown mansion into the top room with the floating gold geometric shapes, and then the sort of light beam out of the roof, in the last few scenes?
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SonicRulez posted:Wasn't Mary Jane dead at some point? Spider-Man comics are definitely better with her in them than without. No, she just fell into a portal created by a device invented by the Spot, but then modified by the Green Goblin. Meanwhile a sentient water clone that was created by Miles Warren out of Hydro Man took her place. Also Spider-Man couldn't disturb pigeons.
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Roth posted:No, she just fell into a portal created by a device invented by the Spot, but then modified by the Green Goblin. Meanwhile a sentient water clone that was created by Miles Warren out of Hydro Man took her place. Or hit anyone.
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Dennis McClaren posted:Is the general consensus that Hellboy (possible spoiler for the end of the Hellboy series) left hell for heaven at the very end of "The Descent" when he walked upstairs into that rundown mansion into the top room with the floating gold geometric shapes, and then the sort of light beam out of the roof, in the last few scenes? This whole comment is a spoiler so forgive me for tagging the whole thing: Seems likely, although the title of the current BPRD arc (The Devil You Know) might hint towards him coming back to life even briefly. BTW, the geometric shapes are from the short story Mignola did with his daughter, The Magician and the Snake. Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Aug 6, 2017 03:26
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They never did find Mary Jane in the cartoon either. She is still wondering around out there somewhere.
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They ended the cartoon with spider going "hey let's find her" which was such a weird endpoint.
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If I remember right the plan was to have her end up in victorian England, where Jack The Ripper was Carnage. No idea how they'd do that when Carnage wasn't allowed to kill or even actually injure anyone. Ah, 90s cartoons.
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"MARY JAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! YOOOOOOUUUU CAN'T ESCAPE MEEEEEE! I'LL FOLLOWYOUTOTHE ENDS OF THE EAAAAAAAAAARTH!" (But seriously, Christopher Daniel Barnes is the definitive voice of Spider-Man.)
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Brofessor Slayton posted:If I remember right the plan was to have her end up in victorian England, where Jack The Ripper was Carnage. I hope the plan was to have Carnage's voice actor attempt an English accent.
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Brofessor Slayton posted:If I remember right the plan was to have her end up in victorian England, where Jack The Ripper was Carnage. Were there plans for another season outside of the british time traveling plot
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Were there plans for another season outside of the british time traveling plot You know they could easily turn that into 8 episodes.
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Wheat Loaf posted:"MARY JAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! YOOOOOOUUUU CAN'T ESCAPE MEEEEEE! I'LL FOLLOWYOUTOTHE ENDS OF THE EAAAAAAAAAARTH!" It's weird because it doesn't even feel like he has competition even though I know I've heard a whole bunch of different guys voice Spider-Man.
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Josh Keaton is always who I hear in my head when reading Spider-Man.
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Wheat Loaf posted:(But seriously, Christopher Daniel Barnes is the definitive voice of Spider-Man.) It depends on the artist, but I still usually hear him when I read Spidey.
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Wheat Loaf posted:"MARY JAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! YOOOOOOUUUU CAN'T ESCAPE MEEEEEE! I'LL FOLLOWYOUTOTHE ENDS OF THE EAAAAAAAAAARTH!" Personally, it's Paul Soles. Of course I grew up watching reruns of the 60s Spidey. CDB's good too but I think he was kind of doing a tribute to Soles anyway
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I remember Spidey's voice from the Electric Company. 
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If you just imagine Spider-Man speaking instead of dramatically reading all of his dialogue out loud yourself, I'm not sure you really "get" the Everyman Hero.
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Lightning Lord posted:This whole comment is a spoiler so forgive me for tagging the whole thing: This is really cool. I forgot where those shapes came from, you're right! I think maybe my theory is true. Anyway.. I didn't know they had a new BPRD coming out! And so recently that I can go pick it up. That's kind of surprising to me because Basically the whole earth minus Liz was obliterated at the end of the Hell on Earth saga. I mean not entirely, but most of the whole B.P.R.D. cast has been lost. I would find it shocking they keep trying to force more throwback agents at us that we're not familiar with..
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prefect posted:I remember Spidey's voice from the Electric Company. 
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Is Battle Chasers actually a good comic?
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It might have been? I remember liking it when it was coming out, but I haven't read it since and that was like over ten years ago?
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The Fox cartoon had a lot of problems, but you can't fault its voice cast. It has the definitive voices for a lot of the characters, including Kingpin, Spider-man and Hobgoblin(discount Joker, hooray!). The definitive Green Goblin and Jonah Jameson voices are obviously from the Sam Raimi films. Lightning Lord posted:Personally, it's Paul Soles. Of course I grew up watching reruns of the 60s Spidey. CDB's good too but I think he was kind of doing a tribute to Soles anyway Paul Soles is good but he's a little too deep-voiced for Spider-man.
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Schneider Heim posted:Is Battle Chasers actually a good comic? It's very pretty but the story never goes anywhere and it ends abruptly with no closure.
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Lurdiak posted:The definitive Green Goblin and Jonah Jameson voices are obviously from the Sam Raimi films. I remember when I saw the first Raimi movie, I thought Simmons was basically doing Ed Asner from the cartoon.
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Rhyno posted:It's very pretty but the story never goes anywhere and it ends abruptly with no closure. Eh, I'll probably pass, then.
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The only thing I know about Battle Chasers besides the FF7 anecdote is that a lovely youtube guy was "relieved the creators aren't pandering to non-fans" by making the girls' costumes less revealing in he kickstarter for the video game.Wheat Loaf posted:I remember when I saw the first Raimi movie, I thought Simmons was basically doing Ed Asner from the cartoon. They're similar takes on the voice but I don't know how else a cigar-smoking grumpus could sound. Simmons is the best Jameson we've ever had or ever will have. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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Battlechasers is best left in the 90s Source: bought it a year or two ago on sale
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Is Jameson still mayor of NYC? I hope Marvel's big summer crossover event in 2020 is Jameson running for president.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is Jameson still mayor of NYC? I hope Marvel's big summer crossover event in 2020 is Jameson running for president. Nope he had to resign because of blackmail material Dr. Spider-octopus released of him. Or something. Like most of Slott's stories I barely remember it. But his political career is over.
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