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zegermans posted:verify dishtansh to waifu. one ping only. ftfy
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Regarding opiate addiction, I'm of the opinion that liberal attitudes towards it are often the height of hypocrisy. For as much as liberals like to talk about scientific consensus on issues like global warming, they're comfortable willing to ignore the fact that current science heavily suggests that both 1. many people are predisposed to addiction to opiates (as well as other substances) and 2. it's a disease and not something most people can just will themselves to stop. And that's not even getting into how downright abhorrent and cruel it is to treat people in such a lovely situation so poorly in the first place.
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anime was right posted:im creating the "anime was right" foundation to combat the inaccurate accusations itt goons are on top of the important issues of the day
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Ytlaya posted:Regarding opiate addiction, I'm of the opinion that liberal attitudes towards it are often the height of hypocrisy. For as much as liberals like to talk about scientific consensus on issues like global warming, they're comfortable willing to ignore the fact that current science heavily suggests that both 1. many people are predisposed to addiction to opiates (as well as other substances) and 2. it's a disease and not something most people can just will themselves to stop.  Most people are generally really bad about addiction and the culture of shame and policing around it helps no one even when it's legal things.
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Ytlaya posted:Regarding opiate addiction, I'm of the opinion that liberal attitudes towards it are often the height of hypocrisy. For as much as liberals like to talk about scientific consensus on issues like global warming, they're comfortable willing to ignore the fact that current science heavily suggests that both 1. many people are predisposed to addiction to opiates (as well as other substances) and 2. it's a disease and not something most people can just will themselves to stop. also the little thing about how pharma created this mess by pushing some of the most addictive substances known to science on people
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Also, use of opioids makes everything more painful after the dose wears off.
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zegermans posted:also what do think tanks do I actually never figured that out come up with Obamacare.
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google: automation forcing you out of employment? slowing down on that won't solve racsexism 
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Nonsense posted:the shits is another thing apparently Oh yeah, opiates slow everything down. People used to take Opium FOR poo poo problems. It's why it's harder to get Immodium now, the active ingredient in that can, if taken in massive fuckin' doses, approximate the numbing effect.
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Agnosticnixie posted:
people only respect the human costs of the addictions they share, and even then, only as long as it's convenient to them
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Ytlaya posted:Regarding opiate addiction, I'm of the opinion that liberal attitudes towards it are often the height of hypocrisy. For as much as liberals like to talk about scientific consensus on issues like global warming, they're comfortable willing to ignore the fact that current science heavily suggests that both 1. many people are predisposed to addiction to opiates (as well as other substances) and 2. it's a disease and not something most people can just will themselves to stop. Thank you. I don't blame a single person who's community/family/personal health has been ravaged by opiates and seeing the two candidates and thinking one represented the same old same old and the other represented any kind of change. Of course, they voted for a guy who was flat out lying to them. That part needs to be worked on, not wishing loving death on them. Are there racist shitbag bad apples in that bunch? Absolutely. but it doesn't represent the entire block. It's just personal to me because I have a brother in law who got really far into opiates in PA, he ends dup in jail and now I see him struggling to get his life back together with a felony on his record. He's extremely lucky he has a family around willing to help out. I helped take care of his kid one holiday weekend because he was dealing with not having suboxone (which he has since kicked cold turkey). I realize that a shitload of people in similar situations don't have that and desperately need help.
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Grondoth posted:Oh yeah, opiates slow everything down. People used to take Opium FOR poo poo problems. It's why it's harder to get Immodium now, the active ingredient in that can, if taken in massive fuckin' doses, approximate the numbing effect. A goon in TCC figured out a way to potentiate immodium and then OD'd and died from it while at the movies with his husband. Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 02:18 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A goon in TCC figured out a way to potentiate immodium and then OD'd and died from it while at the movies with his wife. or the goon who got lit up in his parked car, passed out, and baked to death
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A goon in TCC figured out a way to potentiate immodium and then OD'd and died from it while at the movies with his wife. HARM REDUCTION
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A goon in TCC figured out a way to potentiate immodium and then OD'd and died from it while at the movies with his wife. The rules thread in TCC really ought to be named something like "If you post in this forum, you'll probably be dead in five years."
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A goon in TCC figured out a way to potentiate immodium and then OD'd and died from it while at the movies with his wife. like died from being full of poo poo, or died literally from ODing from immodium
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Agean90 posted:or the goon who got lit up in his parked car, passed out, and baked to death That was a different goon, who OD'd on prescription benzos he took while already tripping on (I think) oxy.
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zegermans posted:like died from being full of poo poo, or died literally from ODing from immodium the latter
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Zoran posted:The rules thread in TCC really ought to be named something like "If you post in this forum, you'll probably be dead in five years." I don't know why it's allowed to exist when they banned lowcarb circlejerking after that 20 year old was dying of clogged arteries
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Matt Zerella posted:the latter I just don't see how that's possible like how do you go DOA to the hospital, and have a doctor write "OD'd from imodium" I wonder if the doctor laughed
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zegermans posted:like died from being full of poo poo, or died literally from ODing from immodium How he specifically did it remains unclear, but diligent TCC researchers determined the best way is to mix immodium with an olive oil/black pepper solution and administer it rectally. So, the latter, though the former was probably a concern since his wife reported he'd been at it a while and also routinely drank quantities of cough syrup. zegermans posted:I just don't see how that's possible His wife told the paramedics responding of his habits. I don't remember the story well enough to tell you if they believed her.
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I feel really stopped up and gross if I go 24 hours between poops how do addicts go weeks
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zegermans posted:I feel really stopped up and gross if I go 24 hours between poops how do addicts go weeks i would guess that opiates like many drugs also ruin your appetite so there isnt nearly as much poop to poop anyway
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the bitcoin of weed posted:i would guess that opiates like many drugs also ruin your appetite so there isnt nearly as much poop to poop anyway Drug addictions are the only weight-loss method guaranteed to work  Naturally the only exceptions are alcohol and weed aka the ones everyone uses, and that's why the West is so fat
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the bitcoin of weed posted:i would guess that opiates like many drugs also ruin your appetite so there isnt nearly as much poop to poop anyway Having been around to witness "heroin chic" in the 90s, I'd say that's a pretty safe bet.
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If we could legalize weed and then cultivate a strain that makes you get full really fast instead of turning you into a bottomless lovely food pit, we'd solve heart disease in a year
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Ytlaya posted:Regarding opiate addiction, I'm of the opinion that liberal attitudes towards it are often the height of hypocrisy. For as much as liberals like to talk about scientific consensus on issues like global warming, they're comfortable willing to ignore the fact that current science heavily suggests that both 1. many people are predisposed to addiction to opiates (as well as other substances) and 2. it's a disease and not something most people can just will themselves to stop. It's almost like people feel less sympathetic toward people they see as an outgroup, no matter what the political affiliations they claim to hold.
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loquacius posted:If we could legalize weed and then cultivate a strain that makes you get full really fast instead of turning you into a bottomless lovely food pit, we'd solve heart disease in a year One of the active ingredients in weed is an appetite suppressant, actually.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:how is she so awful She's kind of right though, Maduro is a piece of poo poo and nobody should be backing someone making their country into a authoritarian hellhole regardless of their views on capital. Going "well both sides...  " is bad since there is no way the Tories won't pin him to the wall over it.
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punk rebel ecks posted:It's almost like people feel less sympathetic toward people they see as an outgroup, no matter what the political affiliations they claim to hold. opiate addictions were hilarious when intentionally inflicted on china and then american communities of color but now that white people are affected by it too it's a Serious Crisis That Needs Addressing an addictive product is one of the most perfect commodities for capital because if people stop buying from you they'll die, but it's getting trickier to grow that customer base now that it's affecting everyone and not just minorities or foreigners
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zegermans posted:like died from being full of poo poo, or died literally from ODing from immodium The mechanism by which immodium works is the same as other opiates; immodium just doesn't (in reasonable doses, at least) pass the blood brain barrier. Taking Vicodin or something (as someone with no tolerance) is probably roughly comparable to taking a large dose of immodium as far as your bowels go. punk rebel ecks posted:It's almost like people feel less sympathetic toward people they see as an outgroup, no matter what the political affiliations they claim to hold. Basically, yes. I feel like most liberals are probably only more correct than conservatives because they happened to identify (usually due to the people/community they grew up around) with the side that happens to also be more correct. If you threw some dumb poo poo into the general liberal orthodoxy (that wasn't already associated with conservatives) I guarantee most would believe it.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:One of the active ingredients in weed is an appetite suppressant, actually. i never understood how people got the munchies from weed; it's always made me forget about being hungry. if i smoke all day i can get by on a few pieces of bread
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Feldegast42 posted:She's kind of right though, Maduro is a piece of poo poo and nobody should be backing someone making their country into a authoritarian hellhole regardless of their views on capital. Going "well both sides... Maybe violent reactionary politics and foreign policy is bad? 
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the bitcoin of weed posted:opiate addictions were hilarious when intentionally inflicted on china and then american communities of color but now that white people are affected by it too it's a Serious Crisis That Needs Addressing It's probably not wrong that many people are caring more now that it's affecting more white people, but the problem here isn't that people are caring more now, but that people didn't care enough in the past. Also just as a random thing, opiate withdrawal generally can't kill you (as opposed to benzodiazepine or alcohol withdrawal, which can). The vast majority of overdoses occur due to one of the following: 1. people who buy illegal opiates having something more potent mixed in, 2. people mixing opiates with alcohol or benzos, or 3. people becoming clean and then using the same amount they used to when they were physically dependent.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:i never understood how people got the munchies from weed; it's always made me forget about being hungry. if i smoke all day i can get by on a few pieces of bread For me it was just that it made everything taste so good, but it never really made me hungry per se.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:i never understood how people got the munchies from weed; it's always made me forget about being hungry. if i smoke all day i can get by on a few pieces of bread you dont necessarily get hungry but if you start eating you can't tell when you're full, plus the gag reflex is suppressed
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:i never understood how people got the munchies from weed; it's always made me forget about being hungry. if i smoke all day i can get by on a few pieces of bread well it depends on the weed, mostly. one of the active ingredients is an appetite suppressant but another one is an appetite stimulant. weed is crazy 
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:i never understood how people got the munchies from weed; it's always made me forget about being hungry. if i smoke all day i can get by on a few pieces of bread maybe the indica/sativa split? i get the munchies and mostly smoke sativas
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Ytlaya posted:Basically, yes. I feel like most liberals are probably only more correct than conservatives because they happened to identify (usually due to the people/community they grew up around) with the side that happens to also be more correct. If you threw some dumb poo poo into the general liberal orthodoxy (that wasn't already associated with conservatives) I guarantee most would believe it. Imagine of blacks voted Republican.
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