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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Skippy McPants posted:

Kinda answered your own question there. Dude was clearly well versed in managing risk factors!

He did win a safety award from the American Chemical Society...

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Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Arms_Akimbo posted:

Baseball is a summer sport, it should be played outdoors. But with all the money that could stand to be lost in rain outs, corporate giveaways, etc, it makes economic sense to have a retractable roof so you can keep playing on lovely days.

In Arizona for example they use their roof so they can turn the air conditioning on during summer day games. Otherwise, nobody would sit there for 3 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUs70OZnqpc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuMKJURaeHI

the arizona cardinals play on real grass and its considered to be the best field in the NFL. THey had a unique solution. They can move the entire field out to grow in the sun. It's really really cool. It also has a retractable roof

Guineapig
Sep 8, 2005

Louder is not Better

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I don't think any actual stadiums use real grass anymore.

Safeco Field is real grass.

http://mlb.mlb.com/sea/ballpark/information/index.jsp?content=facts

"Safeco Field's playing surface is a custom designed state-of-the-art field. It features a specially designed drainage system and a custom blend of four kinds of Kentucky bluegrass and two kinds of perennial rye grass to provide the optimal playing surface for the athletes, the retractable roof, and the Northwest climate. The drainage system includes layers of drainage pipe, pea gravel, sand, and grass. A spider web of one-inch plastic hose circulates hot water under the grass to bring it out of dormancy in time for Opening Day, and also compensate for shade and low levels of direct sunlight."

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
The skydomes been working fine for like 30 years now.

Moist von Lipwig fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Aug 7, 2017

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Moist von Lipwig posted:

Nothing because self driving cars and trucks are at least 25 years away.

I don't think it's 25 years away.

It's not going to be a flick of a switch and suddenly everything's autonomous.

It'll start with a portion of trucks having portions of driving time on autopilot with a trained driver, then a little more time on autopilot and a few more trucks and a little more time and a few more trucks until some routes are autonomous, some 50/50, a lot still completely manual.

Once it starts we'll see monthly milestones. First coast to coast without driver intervention, first delivery without intervention, first completely driverless route, first completely driverless company.

It will be thousands of small steps, and if you're not paying attention it will come so gradually you won't even notice, apart from the occasional sensationalist "driverless truck kills orphan, disposes of body" story in the news.

e: 25 years is a long loving time. 25 years ago is 1992. Think of your computer, cell phone, and internet in 1992.

Powershift fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Aug 7, 2017

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

Coor's Field is real grass, too. Lots of baseball and football stadiums still use real grass.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Powershift posted:

I don't think it's 25 years away.

It's not going to be a flick of a switch and suddenly everything's autonomous.

It'll start with a portion of trucks having portions of driving time on autopilot with a trained driver, then a little more time on autopilot and a few more trucks and a little more time and a few more trucks until some routes are autonomous, some 50/50, a lot still completely manual.

Once it starts we'll see monthly milestones. First coast to coast without driver intervention, first delivery without intervention, first completely driverless route, first completely driverless company.

It will be thousands of small steps, and if you're not paying attention it will come so gradually you won't even notice, apart from the occasional sensationalist "driverless truck kills orphan, disposes of body" story in the news.

e: 25 years is a long loving time. 25 years ago is 1992. Think of your computer, cell phone, and internet in 1992.

Computers, had those. Cell phones, had those. Internet, had that.

In 2017, our best artificial intelligences are housed in warehouse-sized locations and excel at playing Chess and Go, and possibly putting diagnostic doctors out of business. Also, Intel has improved their chips ~10% over the past 7 years, and lithium ion batteries have improved even less over the same time span. Both of those things are way, way more useful than self-driving cars.

I'd say, lucky to have level 5 AI for cars before I die in ~60 years.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

our best AIs spend their time trying to figure out every little detail about you so they can sell you febreeze.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
1992 was a big year for personal technology. The first SMS text message was sent (it said "Merry Christmas"), the Atari 2600 ended production, compact discs outsold audiocassettes for the first time in the US, Microsoft released Windows 3.1, ViolaWWW for Unix (the first popular web browser) was released, JPEG images had their first public release, IBM debuted the Angler (first prototype smartphone) ...

The Nintendo Gameboy had only been released 3 years previously, SNES and Sonic the Hedgehog had only been out for a year, CERN had only made the World Wide Web available to the public a few months previously, the first Doom game was still a year away ...

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012
Comedy option: 'autonomous' cars that are actually remote controlled from an uber-owned sweatshop in India.

Cichlidae
Aug 12, 2005

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Dr. Infant, MD
Around 2070, the US government will finally ban non-autonomous driving. It's a presbyocracy, and at that point driving will be seen as a luxury, but one that all the rich old folks still see as a fundamental right. Look how long it took to transition to digital television, and now imagine the government has to buy everyone self-driving cars if they can't afford it on their own. Now imagine how bitterly conservatives would fight against free (or subsidized) cars for the poor.

Also, not-so-controversial prediction: Uber will go out of business within three years.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Cichlidae posted:

Around 2070, the US government will finally ban non-autonomous driving. It's a presbyocracy, and at that point driving will be seen as a luxury, but one that all the rich old folks still see as a fundamental right. Look how long it took to transition to digital television, and now imagine the government has to buy everyone self-driving cars if they can't afford it on their own. Now imagine how bitterly conservatives would fight against free (or subsidized) cars for the poor.

The best part of this incredibly likely prediction is self-driving cars probably STILL won't be very good at navigating unmarked gravel roads, leaving the largely-Republican-voting rural poor DOUBLE hosed.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


hailthefish posted:

The best part of this incredibly likely prediction is self-driving cars probably STILL won't be very good at navigating unmarked gravel roads, leaving the largely-Republican-voting rural poor DOUBLE hosed.

I would think by 2070 the driving done on gravel roads would be done based on the collective memory of millions of miles driven on those roads by semi-autonomous vehicles defining the limits rather than cameras or radar trying to read the road. with human intervention through control of the driving software as opposed to a steering wheel, similar to ford back-up assist. you turn the knob to move a target on the screen with the vehicle handling actual inputs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tby3A29osDg&t=82s

An autonomous vehicle doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be better than a human which is a pretty loving low bar. It's not like it's entirely useless until it can flawlessly handle 100% of situations without intervention.

bobfather posted:

Computers, had those. Cell phones, had those. Internet, had that.

In 2017, our best artificial intelligences are housed in warehouse-sized locations and excel at playing Chess and Go, and possibly putting diagnostic doctors out of business. Also, Intel has improved their chips ~10% over the past 7 years, and lithium ion batteries have improved even less over the same time span. Both of those things are way, way more useful than self-driving cars.

I'd say, lucky to have level 5 AI for cars before I die in ~60 years.

in the US in 1992, less than 23% of households had a computer, less than 1% of households had internet access, there were only 8.9 million cell phone subscribers. The computers were slow, the internet was poo poo, and the cell phones only worked in cities.

By the same token, there are people out there reading books while the cruise control in their Tesla does a lot of their driving. most new luxury cars have radar cruise control, lane keeping assist, parking assist, and all sorts of collision avoidance systems. It's just small little chunks of driving responsible being whittled away. bit by bit, car by car.

Intel's lack of progress is likely a matter of market conditions, but how about Nvidia, AMD, qualcomm, samsung? We'll see windows 10 on snapdragon 835 devices this year,

Batteries are constantly improving, and are probably 1/10th the cost they were 7 years ago.

There's evolution when you seem to expect revolution. You won't see the 2025 model at level 2 and the 2026 model at level 5. there are small tasks being taken away from the driver bit by bit right now, it won't stop, and it will reach a tipping point where giving the driver control is more dangerous than not.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

oh cool grass chat

To be fair watching baseball rain delay tarp failures is hilarious and thread appropriate.

https://youtu.be/w8XAoy-cXiU

https://youtu.be/pXAxWsNBabU

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Powershift posted:

in the US in 1992, less than 23% of households had a computer, less than 1% of households had internet access, there were only 8.9 million cell phone subscribers. The computers were slow, the internet was poo poo, and the cell phones only worked in cities.

I went to a service station last week to buy a snack and I noticed that the petrol bowsers had video screens that were showing random crap. One was showing internet cat videos. The internet is loving everywhere these days.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
Can someone give these self driving car guys a self driving car so they can die in a car crash and then shut up

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Pander posted:

To be fair watching baseball rain delay tarp failures is hilarious and thread appropriate.

https://youtu.be/w8XAoy-cXiU

https://youtu.be/pXAxWsNBabU

lol yes that's good poo poo.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I went to a service station last week to buy a snack and I noticed that the petrol bowsers had video screens that were showing random crap. One was showing internet cat videos. The internet is loving everywhere these days.

I found that pressing one of the buttons next to the screen (on the right side, IIRC) mercifully lets you mute these.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Powershift posted:

in the US in 1992, less than 23% of households had a computer, less than 1% of households had internet access, there were only 8.9 million cell phone subscribers. The computers were slow, the internet was poo poo, and the cell phones only worked in cities.

they also had self driving cars in 1990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQsVkYbpuw



Powershift posted:

By the same token, there are people out there reading books while the cruise control in their Tesla does a lot of their driving.

this is what's going to hold back early adoption of self driving cars - idiots treating driver assist as self driving, watching porn instead of the road, and getting themselves and others killed. the only fatality in a self driving car so far was some jackass who was watching a movie when his car drove under a truck. if this happens enough times the government can and will put restrictions on self driving cars because it's much easier to control manufacturer standards than it is to control human behavior, and the federal government has clear authority over traffic safety standards in vehicles

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Aug 7, 2017

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I don't think any actual stadiums use real grass anymore.

They do because astroturf turned out to be a terrible idea that caused a whole bunch of career-ending injuries. In the NFL, more than half of the stadiums use natural grass. Only two MLB ballparks use turf, and I think the Blue Jays are switching to grass for next year.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Maybe they should just upgrade astroturf so it doesn't cause injuries. Astronerf.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Facebook Aunt posted:

Maybe they should just upgrade astroturf so it doesn't cause injuries. Astronerf.

They pretty much did. Everyone switched over to FieldTurf

http://www.fieldturf.com/en/

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Silicon computers are running up to real hard limits. The nodes that a transistor is made of is now 14 nm or 7 atoms wide. I am not going to blame companies inability to squeeze blood from stone.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

boner confessor posted:

the only fatality in a self driving car so far was some jackass who was watching a movie when his car drove under a truck.

Fake news!

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
The Red Bull Flugtag took place last weekend in Pittsburgh, with mixed results. A strong tail-wind on the flight deck made it just about impossible for anyone to actually fly (including my team), but it was entertaining as hell anyway. I don't have any good footage of me and my team, and besides, our entry was pretty safe--our pilot was only hospitalized for a couple hours!

The Back to the Future team, on the other hand, was definitely not safe... (note: can I embed gifv?)
http://imgur.com/GncTVs7

He was unconscious on the board for a few minutes while the recovery guys on jet skis poked at him. Eventually he came to and was brought onto a rescue boat, and from there taken to the hospital. I think he's out of the hospital now and doing okay.

I assume the plan was for him to jump clear, but that never really happened. A few other pilots landed on their crafts, but none were as solidly built so they mostly just crashed through them.

fake edit: i did find a photo of me and my team

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
Oh cool, that fall was featured in the news today

The story behind that scary Flugtag fall posted:

Marty didn’t McFly far enough.

That’s one thing Walt Czekaj took away from his scary 22-foot fall off a giant skateboard Saturday during the EQT Three Rivers Regatta’s Flugtag event. Sure, he knew there was a chance he’d get hurt being pushed into the Allegheny River atop a 200-pound board. But 18 stitches, bruised ribs and road rash on his face? Great Scott!

The 33-year-old South Side resident was back at work Monday morning at an elevator company, where he works as a sales manager. Mr. Czekaj said that two days after being released from the hospital, he is feeling good — no dizziness and no headaches. But with a black eye, a banged-up face and a left hand “swollen like a grapefruit,” he worries about the customers who will have to see him.

“I am customer-facing, so I’m not going to be the prettiest looking salesperson around for the next week or so,” he said.

At Pittsburgh’s first-ever Flugtag, 37 teams competed by building homemade flying machines to take off from a platform on the Allegheny River. They were judged on flight distance, creativity and showmanship. By those measures, Mr. Czekaj’s crew succeeded: The skateboard they built out of 1-by-4s, plywood and shingles actually flew farther than they expected. But the ride for its pilot was tougher than expected too.



“My plan was to ride it for half a second after it cleared the platform, and then at that point, jump off on one side,” Mr. Czekaj recalled. “As soon as it cleared the platform, there was nothing for me to push off of. Very quickly I saw that we were both going down separately.”


His teammate, Adam Kunes, said even the Red Bull event organizers thought their craft would dive straight down. But it didn’t, and Mr. Czekaj, dressed as Marty McFly from the movie “Back to the Future,” fell straight onto the skateboard. The impact knocked him out.

“I remember being about five feet above [the skateboard], just knowing that I was going to crash and thinking, ‘oh crap,’” he remembered. “I don’t remember anything until I was on the boat from River Rescue. They said I was out for about a minute.”

He had done cliff-diving before, but nothing prepared him for a dive onto a giant board. His cuts were substantial, and doctors had to be sure they weren’t infected by river water. He was released a few hours later, but felt badly that his team didn’t get to watch the rest of the Flugtag. (”I’d love it if Red Bull invited us to Nashville” for the next Flugtag, he said.)

But next for Mr. Czekaj? A bachelor’s party in Austin in two weeks.

“I’ll have some good scars and good stories.”

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Dig the Mr. Rogers reference. It is Pittsburgh after all.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

oohhboy posted:

Silicon computers are running up to real hard limits. The nodes that a transistor is made of is now 14 nm or 7 atoms wide. I am not going to blame companies inability to squeeze blood from stone.

14 nm is ~70 atoms. Semiconductor companies have products planned down to 4nm so there's a way to go before they hit that wall.

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Xaintrailles posted:

14 nm is ~70 atoms. Semiconductor companies have products planned down to 4nm so there's a way to go before they hit that wall.

then we panic?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

then we panic?

Are you panicking right now?

Progress has already greatly slowed. A plateau isn’t all that different from what we’ve had for the last few years.

Computers will still work fine, they just won’t get faster, smaller, or more efficient from one year to the next.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Platystemon posted:

Are you panicking right now?

Progress has already greatly slowed. A plateau isn’t all that different from what we’ve had for the last few years.

Computers will still work fine, they just won’t get faster, smaller, or more efficient from one year to the next.

small, fast and efficient ones will get cheaper though, so there is still light at the end of the tunnel.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
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Slanderer posted:

The Back to the Future team, on the other hand, was definitely not safe... (note: can I embed gifv?)

http://i.imgur.com/GncTVs7.mp4

oof

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

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notice the lightning deployment of rescue teams

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Deteriorata posted:

It's not a coincidence that the first domed stadium was built in Houston. They have to have some Little League games at 5 AM to get them in before it gets hot.

Houston, like Phoenix, is one of those cities that was built by the hubris of man to defy to laws of nature.

Houston will prepare you Sous Vide style while Phoenix will just turn you into jerky.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Platystemon posted:

Are you panicking right now?

Progress has already greatly slowed. A plateau isn’t all that different from what we’ve had for the last few years.

Computers will still work fine, they just won’t get faster, smaller, or more efficient from one year to the next.

If you can't make it smaller, stack it.

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Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Lime Tonics posted:

Decommissioning the reactors will cost 8 trillion yen ($72 billion), according to an estimate in December from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.

And how much would it have cost if they'd done it and built a new one on schedule, rather than delaying it forever because ~SKARRY ATOMZ~.

Ruflux posted:

I mean, the first bit is true (I read it on a study once, and those never lie obviously) but I sincerely doubt the effect of added carelessness on both the bicyclist's and car drivers' part is enough to come even close to offsetting the massive gains in safety you get from wearing a helmet while bicycling.

I will gladly trade more scrapes and bruises for not dying. Anyone who wouldn't is an idiot.

Of course I'm probably only here today because I wore my helmet in high school when some assholes decided to harass me and try to grab my bike and that lead to me going face first into concrete, so I might be slightly biased.

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