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Also the thing about companies being restrictive to top universities is mostly just for interns/new grad recruiting. Once you have a few years' experience people care a lot more about where you worked at and what you've done, which makes it easier to move up the prestige ladder. Being at BYU with a lovely previous academic record (I failed pretty much everything my freshman year), for example, Google wouldn't talk to me. But once I was at Amazon they would.
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WampaLord posted:Jesus loving Christ, why the gently caress should I care that some white tech bro was "unfulfilled" and spent all his massive money on a way to manic pixie dream app his own life. This has always been NPR's thing
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Aug 7, 2017 21:50
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Wow I just went over to Reddit to see their opinions on this guys  and boy were their comments spicy
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Aug 7, 2017 21:59
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Significant Ant posted:Wow I just went over to Reddit to see their opinions on this guys I'm confused. Which guy? Got a link?
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Aug 7, 2017 22:04
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LinYutang posted:The representation of Asians is pretty huge; I wish their report broke down race+gender, as I'm guessing Asian women are overrepresented as a group themselves. Their EEO report has some of those breakdowns.
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Aug 7, 2017 22:10
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we've only had the one thing to talk about in tech land for this past few days
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Aug 7, 2017 23:05
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curufinor posted:we've only had the one thing to talk about in tech Oh Yeah, the hero at Google standing up for the rights of the computer nerd. I was hoping for a link to the reddit thread so I wouldn't have to go digging myself.
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Dongsturm posted:Oh Yeah, the hero at Google standing up for the rights of the computer nerd. helpful link http://bit.ly/1Mcpghf
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aware of dog posted:He's an incel, probably I was actually surprised when I searched his name and "incel" and didn't find anything. I have found it most heartening that all the nice non-shithead Googlers I know are loving LIVID OVER THIS BULLSHIT and are making this publicly known.
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If you just want to see the manifesto (it originally had citations, or so I've heard), it's here: http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320 If you want to see Yonatan Zunger's closely-reasoned, insightful, and furious response, just follow the blue underlined road.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you want to see Yonatan Zunger's closely-reasoned, insightful, and furious response, just follow the blue underlined road.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:23
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Being a lefty in techbro circles, it's odd to see model minorities like the Chinese and Indians in tech internalize white racial politics and start not just accepting the anti-diversity views but actively promulgating them. If anything, they can be even more racist against african-americans and sexist against women than random white dudes
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Aug 8, 2017 02:04
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There's also the element of the originating cultures being pretty racist and sexist as well. In my experience if you grew up in the US as an Asian American you're far morely likely to be liberal than people who immigrated as adults, but that may just be my social bubble.
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Aug 8, 2017 02:06
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curufinor posted:we've only had the one thing to talk about in tech *whipcrack* Welcome to a world known as Google.
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Aug 8, 2017 02:10
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yeah i guess compounding techbro misogyny with foreign culture sexism is a heady brew
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Aug 8, 2017 02:12
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Tarezax posted:There's also the element of the originating cultures being pretty racist and sexist as well. it's wild how a lot of well-off chinese immigrants feel threatened around anyone who isn't either chinese or the white people they try so drat hard to suck up to lol tl;dr wechat is cancer (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 8, 2017 02:20
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The "diversity memo" guy has been fired. Will this be the end of it or do reactionary assholes everywhere have a new martyr?
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Aug 8, 2017 03:11
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Just wait for his patreon
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patreon folks are generic liberal but not too leftist silicon valley folks #3453 so the altright folks hate them i think they have a nazi-specific begging site
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nah, the highest money grubber on patreon was a gamergater white dude for a while
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The nazi-patreon is literally called hatreon
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fishmech posted:Again, you don't actually have to live int he richest parts of town, and doing so doesn't make you less rich, it makes you someone who's bad with money. No one doesn't and I never claimed one did, but you're minimizing how preposterously unaffordable Manhattan is. I don't make 130k and I can't afford anywhere close to those rents, so I can't live in a good portion of Manhattan unless I want to save nothing.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:The "diversity memo" guy has been fired. He's going to be a speaker at the next RNC.
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Kim Jong Il posted:No one doesn't and I never claimed one did, but you're minimizing how preposterously unaffordable Manhattan is. I don't make 130k and I can't afford anywhere close to those rents, so I can't live in a good portion of Manhattan unless I want to save nothing. Luckily living in the trendy parts of Manhattan isn't required to live. So, just don't do it? What's so hard about this? There's even a pretty good public transit system in place so you can live in Not Manhattan and work in Manhattan. You know, like over 1.6 million people do, every workday of the year.
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Kim Jong Il posted:No one doesn't and I never claimed one did, but you're minimizing how preposterously unaffordable Manhattan is. I don't make 130k and I can't afford anywhere close to those rents, so I can't live in a good portion of Manhattan unless I want to save nothing. Look at these 1 bedrooms less than $2k. SROs (basically a small hotel room, some even with a community bathroom) in the worst part of SF are about that price. gently caress SF, is what I'm basically saying.
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Aug 8, 2017 03:56
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 there's something magical about CS/ECE that makes it impossible for women to do well in it :hmm:
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Kobayashi posted:Booster, an App For Rich People Who Don't Want to Pump Their Own Goddamn Gas, Raises $20 Million This is the plot of an Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia Episode.
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shrike82 posted:
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shrike82 posted:
"Women don't have the mathematical acuity to write code!" (250% more women in pure mathematics than CS) "Women lack the intuition and creativity to solve real world problems when theory fails!" (300% more women in biology than CS) "Women just won't work as hard or put in long hours the way men do!" (500% more women in health professions than CS)
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Aug 8, 2017 04:20
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It's gonna be fun pointing out to tech reactionaries that the memo guy would likely still be working for Google if only they had unionized!
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uh is that a point for unionization tho lotta racist fucks in unions back in the day, that doesn't mean that they aren't good, it just means we should do, like, german-style unions or some poo poo
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Aug 8, 2017 04:40
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That guy with his has a biology PhD from Harvard. I'm not sure what Harvard needs a biology department for, they've already got an office of equity, diversity, and inclusion.
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curufinor posted:uh is that a point for unionization tho Tech workers absolutely should unionize, along with everyone else (the Tech Workers Coalition is doing some pretty great things if you're interested in that sort of thing) but, yeah, this is not really the case for it
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Aug 8, 2017 04:57
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Would love to see white supremacist techbros try to set up their own racist union though
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shrike82 posted:Would love to see white supremacist techbros try to set up their own racist union though i'm pretty gently caress sure they were segregating unions back in the day KoL good AFL less good
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shrike82 posted:Being a lefty in techbro circles, it's odd to see model minorities like the Chinese and Indians in tech internalize white racial politics and start not just accepting the anti-diversity views but actively promulgating them. The real hot button issue that I've observed from first-generation Asian immigrants in CA is around Affirmative Action in colleges. Most of the 'good' UCs are around 40-50% Asian today, and this would change dramatically if they adopted an admissions approach similar to that of other top schools.
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shrike82 posted:
The weird thing is that CS was on track to hit, if not parity, at least above 40%, like social sciences or math. Then it started dropping in the 80s, which is doubly weird because that's when women started earning more than 50% of bachelor's degrees. Right now women earn 62% of degrees, so communications/art/biology that are being conferred at a non-biased ratio.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It's gonna be fun pointing out to tech reactionaries that the memo guy would likely still be working for Google if only they had unionized! I am a unionized professional (lawyer) and if I'd written something like this on company time and distributed it during company hours, I'd be poo poo canned so fast. California has a lot of worker protections in general for employee speech, but when you use your employer resources to write and promote it, it is different. If he'd written this as an op-ed in the Mercury News or something, he's have a better case. I love that this guy looks exactly like I imagined he would: 
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blah_blah posted:The real hot button issue that I've observed from first-generation Asian immigrants in CA is around Affirmative Action in colleges. Most of the 'good' UCs are around 40-50% Asian today, and this would change dramatically if they adopted an admissions approach similar to that of other top schools. The only thing worst than Asian techbros whining about African-Americans stealing AA places is hearing them rank races for dating.
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