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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Hemingway To Go! posted:

This is what I mean when I say that I'm worried the next gen is going to go alt right when their first exposure to leftist are these online dipshits taking over places for talking about kids hobbies.

yeah pretty much. nerds can be/are toxic shitheads but they will live and let live if you leave their dumb hobbies alone or at least get another real nerd to make the hobbies better. you dont use a bunch of wanna be hipsters/"critics" and headcases that can't even make a good game/movies/comics as your landing party and expect a good meeting. and i'll say yeah there are fucktards who would have gotten mad any attempt to add progressive values to nerd media, but they are fuckhead losers who want to jerk it to hentai.

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Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
Mark Fisher (RIP) got it right back in 2013.

quote:

The first configuration is what I came to call the Vampires’ Castle. The Vampires’ Castle specialises in propagating guilt. It is driven by a priest’s desire to excommunicate and condemn, an academic-pedant’s desire to be the first to be seen to spot a mistake, and a hipster’s desire to be one of the in-crowd. The danger in attacking the Vampires’ Castle is that it can look as if – and it will do everything it can to reinforce this thought – that one is also attacking the struggles against racism, sexism, heterosexism. But, far from being the only legitimate expression of such struggles, the Vampires’ Castle is best understood as a bourgeois-liberal perversion and appropriation of the energy of these movements.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

FuzzySkinner posted:

He was really good prior to the election. Hell I even liked Bee's take downs of Ted Cruz and the evangelical right.

But the primary and the election of Trump broke that entire genre really.

also, pro click. holy hell.

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/894626202761273349

Young adult fantasy is a cesspool of the insane

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Young adult fantasy is a cesspool of the insane

http://b00kstorebabe.blogspot.com/2017/03/review-black-witch-by-laurie-forest.html

https://twitter.com/Bookishwithtea/status/844422595797831681

https://twitter.com/annelisemonte/status/845672552382918656

the only good untouched YAF is redwall i guess.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Is it all middle class white women ^^^

quote:

“It would be like me watching The Simpsons and saying, ‘It’s harmful to me, take it off the air.’ It’s baffling. People pretend as if there is no off switch. [The idea] that it shouldn’t be in the public atmosphere — I find it extremely funny that people don’t think that’s censorship.”

I know censorship is only when the government does it but when people join an angry mob and want something destroyed and attack anyone who read it or is even associated with it something doesn't seem right.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Martin the Warrior celebrates toxic masculinity.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
You don't ave to be a crazy Tumblr SJW to see that Redwall is super racist

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Guy Goodbody posted:

You don't ave to be a crazy Tumblr SJW to see that Redwall is super racist

probaly lol. my gf LOVES the series, they are ok in my opinion but they get the same after awhile.


Uncle Wemus posted:

Is it all middle class white women ^^^


I know censorship is only when the government does it but when people join an angry mob and want something destroyed and attack anyone who read it or is even associated with it something doesn't seem right.

its almost always that. its a white lady or dude who is mad on the behalf of others or some poo poo.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dapper_Swindler posted:

probaly lol. my gf LOVES the series, they are ok in my opinion but they get the same after awhile.

They're fun children's books about cute animals, but every member of a given species has specific personality traits that are never deviated from, and there's even a book about a weasel or a ferret or one of the other evil races who gets raised by nice mice but still ends up evil because nothing trumps blood.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Guy Goodbody posted:

They're fun children's books about cute animals, but every member of a given species has specific personality traits that are never deviated from, and there's even a book about a weasel or a ferret or one of the other evil races who gets raised by nice mice but still ends up evil because nothing trumps blood.

yeah pretty much. i got bored with them because of that, they never deviate from formula and it always ends up being the same story over and over again but with some gender/pallet swaps. that being said, most fantasy/scifi stuff sufferes from that issue. my gf gets more annoyed that "they dont fill in that ditch across from the abby because its always used as trench" or something like that.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Uncle Wemus posted:

Is it all middle class white women ^^^


I know censorship is only when the government does it but when people join an angry mob and want something destroyed and attack anyone who read it or is even associated with it something doesn't seem right.

I've noticed that.

Every-loving-time.

And if they're not white or a woman? They come from an upper class well to do background.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/historyinflicks/status/894625453633400832

I uh....what?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

jesus gently caress. i guess his "new american majority" sure bit him in the rear end.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Well that was a good, totally insane story. I think it might suit authors these days to become anonymous. Don't know how well the publishing industry will take that though.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

jesus gently caress. i guess his "new american majority" sure bit him in the rear end.

I wonder how actual minorities feel about these people.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

FuzzySkinner posted:

https://twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/894384283229364224

I agree Chelsea. That's why I think it's time you stop using a hispanic-american actor with dwarfism as comic relief.

hypocritical piece of poo poo.

I disagree, because we're the land of the free and not an authoritarian heap like Germany.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

FuzzySkinner posted:

I wonder how actual minorities feel about these people.

who knows. BLM is still mostly minority "led" at least but they sadly burned away alot of support, partly because shithead bigots and partly because stupid people in there ranks, which sucks.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

FuzzySkinner posted:

I wonder how actual minorities feel about these people.

Most of them have probably never heard of them.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Jeb! Repetition posted:

I disagree, because we're the land of the free and not an authoritarian heap like Germany.

Are you serious

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Crane Fist posted:

Are you serious

Yeah. We have better-protected speech than Germany does. The tweet even gave an example of it.

Chieves
Sep 20, 2010

FuzzySkinner posted:

He was really good prior to the election. Hell I even liked Bee's take downs of Ted Cruz and the evangelical right.

But the primary and the election of Trump broke that entire genre really.

also, pro click. holy hell.

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/894626202761273349

Yeah, and Uncle Tom's Cabin used the n word! Who would publish this dreck?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Crane Fist posted:

Are you serious

In america you are allowed to be racist. I know it's hard to understand, but it's true, cool and good.

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

the trump tutelage posted:

Twitter can't go away fast enough.
it's really hard to see how it will be replaced by something worse but we're nowhere near hitting the edge of a Moore's Law of social media shittiness so if we go long enough before the nukes fly we'll all get to see and it'll really suck

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

Guy Goodbody posted:

They're fun children's books about cute animals, but every member of a given species has specific personality traits that are never deviated from, and there's even a book about a weasel or a ferret or one of the other evil races who gets raised by nice mice but still ends up evil because nothing trumps blood.
brian jacques: the first altfurry

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/894732097893675008

This is the funniest tweet I've read all week.

https://twitter.com/liberalism_txt/status/894631424854077440

"You and I...we're not so different after all" - Neoliberals and Neoconservatives.

FuzzySkinner has issued a correction as of 03:49 on Aug 8, 2017

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

papa_november posted:

brian jacques: the first altfurry

"deus vault" screamed Mathias as he decapitated another big lipped weasel in hoodie. "WE WUZ KANGs" shouted cluny his giant nose and yamaka showing under his SJW commie marxist muslim garb. "for trump" Mathias shouted as he dug the mighty warrior's sword into the guts of cluny, "ahhhh" screamed cluny, jewishly.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

true. but i like out of all the dipshits, i still like Oliver. he makes some good points on real issues and its not just "look how many jokes i can steal" or "look at me make lovely hot takes" like bee or handler.
j/o is the least bad of the late night talk show hosts because he's actually informative instead of just spewing hot air, but his sense of humor has taken one hell of a back seat since mid-2015. he's capable of being funny, he just chooses not to be

on a related note: i wish critics would stop loving doing this. i watch Difficult People because it's funny and has a great cast, not because it has "correct" politics. you're far more likely to hear an esoteric reference to a D-list celebrity on this show than one to contemporary politics

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Aug 8, 2017

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Yeah. We have better-protected speech than Germany does. The tweet even gave an example of it.

It seemed like you were referring to America as the land of the free without a heavy layer of irony and I was concerned for your mental health

HMS Beagle
Feb 13, 2009



The biggest difference for me between Stewart at his height during the Bush years and Bee/Noah et al now is that it felt that Stewart was targeting the political culture that had created the situation. Stewart's primary target back then was milquetoast centrist "discourse" media, like Crossfire, and it seemed he regularly brought up how worthless the Democratic Party was. Bee and Noah feel like they're very in step with the liberal political machine, pushing centrist democrat narratives and backing Clinton and Obama whenever possible.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
Exactly, Stewart's show in the Bush era had an anti-establishment feel. Bee and Noah are anti-Trump but very comfortable with the establishment Dems, comedy works a lot better when you're anti-establishment and making fun of both parties when they do dumb poo poo.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

jon stewart got less funny and more angry by the end, but he was always cynical. the only "comedy" pundit who's like that now is john oliver, and Last Week Tonight is late-era stewart daily show in terms of quality. it's informative, but you expect more laughs because he's capable of it

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Gonna use this article as a jumping off point, so bare with me, but again, I think this is the reason why :911: types are susceptible to the "GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX" talking point.

I present to you this article

http://lifehacker.com/measure-and-offset-your-carbon-footprint-with-a-new-onl-1797648355

quote:

Fast Company reports that the nonprofit Conservation International has put out a new online tool for figuring out your carbon footprint. Spend a few minutes answering questions—home size, how often you drive, how many flights you take per year—and you can measure, in tons, the carbon produced yearly by your daily activities or by an event or trip. This isn’t the first online carbon calculator, but this one incorporates new research about diet, as well as advances like hybrid and electric vehicles to give you an accurate figure—and, crucially, options for what to do.

Jesus loving christ. I mean good for you if you have a job where you don't need to drive, but for many, many, many Americans? That's not exactly a viable option.

quote:

Climate information without an action plan can end up just being fearmongering. Knowledge is only power if you act on it. When the Conservation International calculator tells you your carbon footprint, you’re also given a dollar amount for offsetting it. Carbon offsets allow you to neutralize your carbon emissions with a donation to a project that reduces emissions somewhere else in the world (often in a developing nation).

Why does this person have to give money to this charity? Why can't we be calling for a higher taxes on corporations that pollute or for higher regulations?

Who the gently caress has money to spare for this poo poo right now?

quote:

While systemic change—at the level of governments and big corporations—is crucial to fighting climate change, individual action can have an important impact, and it’s something you can do right now. Last week, The Atlantic wrote about a study that found that if all Americans replaced the beef in their diets with beans—not even all meat, just beef!—we’d be 46 to 74 percent of the way to meeting the U.S.’s 2020 emission goals.

I'm not giving up my steak, rear end in a top hat. I'm not against eating Vegan for a few meals or anything of that note (Hell I've made a few meals cuz they can be tasty/healthy), but the argument that suddenly it's people with no money/no power causing this is infuriating.

I hate these loving types of people.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
The anti-car people are funny because it's never gonna fuckin happen and it's such a waste of effort because getting people to buy electric cars and switching power generation to renewables would be so much easier. Do you want to get to zero carbon emissions or do you just want to get people really angry for no reason?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Decent, fast, comfortable and renewable public transportation could also work.

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Feb 19, 2017

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Plutonis posted:

Decent, fast, comfortable and renewable public transportation could also work.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Decent, fast, comfortable and renewable public transportation could also work.

I'd jump for joy if it mean't I could take light rail on trips rather than dealing with the interstate or going through the hell that is air travel.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Plutonis posted:

Decent, fast, comfortable and renewable public transportation could also work.

No. It won't ever work in most places. Public transportation works in a very narrow set of requirements that 97% of the country doesn't meet. Where it makes sense, it should happen, where it doesn't, the best solution is electric cars. Only people that are out of touch or vindictive think that a single solution works for the entire nation.

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FuzzySkinner posted:

He was really good prior to the election. Hell I even liked Bee's take downs of Ted Cruz and the evangelical right.

But the primary and the election of Trump broke that entire genre really.

also, pro click. holy hell.

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/894626202761273349

Just read this article and I'm absolutely seething mad about how some people in the journalist's replies think that using someone's name that they used in a public review is somehow unethical or putting her in danger

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Plutonis posted:

Decent, fast, comfortable and renewable public transportation could also work.

I definitely support that too but people still aren't gonna give up their cars in most cases.

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FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

MaxxBot posted:

I definitely support that too but people still aren't gonna give up their cars in most cases.

Which is fine.

I think like any sort of battle you attack it from multiple fronts. Electric Cars, Increased funding for things like light rail/public transpiration when feasible. Go all in. The "shame" culture needs to stop though.

also.

https://twitter.com/anyaparampil/status/894943189261406209

oh. my. god.

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