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emanresu tnuocca posted:Dany is probably genuinely barren in the show. She's not and they won't
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They have implied as late as Season 6 that she's barren.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:29
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Dany dies along with Drogon (him being "Light Bringer") suicide bombing the Night King. Calling it now.
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Harton posted:I for one will be sad when we lose my new favorite character next week. I think he got burned worse by Bronn.
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if you think dany being barren and jon being undead are insurmountable obstacles to a relatively cliche happy ending for the show, you have a lot more faith in where this poo poo is going than I do like man, those leaked spoilers....
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wizard on a water slide posted:if you think dany being barren and jon being undead are insurmountable obstacles to a relatively cliche happy ending for the show, you have a lot more faith in where this poo poo is going than I do It's not like one of them dying and the survivor going "I'm too old for this poo poo" isn't also a cliche. I think that the show pretty much has to end with a "but was it all worth it?" note, it will be sappy but it won't be happily ever after.
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etalian posted:I think he got burned worse by Bronn. lol touché. Bronn is too good for this show.
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hitchensgoespop posted:Have any of Preston Jacobs theories actually been proven to be true or is too early in the books? Preston Jacobs Is Canon.
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wizard on a water slide posted:this show ordinarily only does poo poo like that when magic is explicitly involved Well, there is the dragon.
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JBP posted:He looks like he's put on one of the weird and hosed up armours from Dark Souls. that's why it was cool.
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Gendry is going to end up on the Iron Throne after warhammering everyone in the face
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I guess Bran knew he'd be fine because of his Shining, but I can't help that think Littlefinger's only good move when it became clear that Brandon knew things would have been to knife the cripple and try to spin the resulting chaos.
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wizard on a water slide posted:His ending theory, which is actually one of the least ridiculous and more interesting of his wild flights of fancy, is that ASOIAF is taking place in the twilight of an apocalyptic event ("The Long Night") that was caused by technology, ala nuclear war or alien invasion, rather than magic gone awry. The idea is that advanced technology explains a lot of the inexplicable elements of the series - like the architectural marvels of Storm's End and The Wall - and that things like the inexplicably backward, infinitely large Stark tombs were actually the fallout shelters that kept the "First Men" who survived nuclear winter alive. You can run with this idea to all sorts of weird places; all the bloodline-linked magic is actually the product of genetic mutation, the dragons that "hatched from an egg in the sky" were introduced alien lifeforms, etc. It also suggests that maybe Westeros's hosed up seasons are because the planet's climate or even orbit or something was deeply, apocalyptic hosed. I'm fully preparing myself for a sci fi ending as well That or the entire war is settled in Westeros and then the victor hears rumors of a Yellow King in the Far East or something
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I guess Bran knew he'd be fine because of his Shining, but I can't help that think Littlefinger's only good move when it became clear that Brandon knew things would have been to knife the cripple and try to spin the resulting chaos. "I have only ever loved one Stark. Only one. ... Your Sister." Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I guess Bran knew he'd be fine because of his Shining, but I can't help that think Littlefinger's only good move when it became clear that Brandon knew things would have been to knife the cripple and try to spin the resulting chaos. Chaos is a laters! *stands Bran and moonwalks out of scene
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Skinty McEdger posted:There's a line in the next episode apparently where Brienne admits she thinks Arya was playing with her and if she had wanted her dead she could have done so at any time. Which is gonna piss a lot of people who were already upset by them being an even match. That's dumb. I thought an even match was perfect.
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wizard on a water slide posted:His ending theory, which is actually one of the least ridiculous and more interesting of his wild flights of fancy, is that ASOIAF is taking place in the twilight of an apocalyptic event ("The Long Night") that was caused by technology, ala nuclear war or alien invasion, rather than magic gone awry. The idea is that advanced technology explains a lot of the inexplicable elements of the series - like the architectural marvels of Storm's End and The Wall - and that things like the inexplicably backward, infinitely large Stark tombs were actually the fallout shelters that kept the "First Men" who survived nuclear winter alive. You can run with this idea to all sorts of weird places; all the bloodline-linked magic is actually the product of genetic mutation, the dragons that "hatched from an egg in the sky" were introduced alien lifeforms, etc. It also suggests that maybe Westeros's hosed up seasons are because the planet's climate or even orbit or something was deeply, apocalyptic hosed. That would be awesome, I still like the fantasy-as-post-apocalyptic-sci-fi idea even though Adventure Time totally ruined and discredited it forever.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Chaos is a laters! "The fall breaks them." *Picks up Bran and throws him out of the tower, again*
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I guess Bran knew he'd be fine because of his Shining, but I can't help that think Littlefinger's only good move when it became clear that Brandon knew things would have been to knife the cripple and try to spin the resulting chaos. Well Bran didn't reveal exactly how much he knows, just enough to make Petyr shook and questioning.
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So if the gold got to KL why are they gonna be unable to pay the iron bank? Do they have to spend the gold on grain now?
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They are able to pay the Iron Bank.
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 As a historian somewhat familiar with ancient rock art, I got a chuckle out of the cave scene. The primitive sun symbols and whatever were ok I guess, and based on actual stuff that we have found in ancient sites (though you see they tried really hard to copy the swastika-like sun symbols and added a bunch of lines so it doesn't look like a swastika). Apparently the whitewalkers arrange corpses in these patterns earlier in the show, which is cool. The other poo poo with the people and children and white walkers is really terrible and don't resemble any actual cave art, or the other cave art seen earlier in the scene (the other poo poo is red and they are white and blue). One explanation is that they just dropped the ball on that scene. I like the theory that Jon Snow drew them himself, just to trick Daenerys into helping him. Those two panels are so bad and inconsistent with the other symbolic art that it seems it was intentional, and perhaps meant to imply to the audience that Jon drew it. Another clue is that the white walkers (which Jon actually saw himself) are super detailed, whereas the first men and the children of the forest (which he didn't see) are super vague stick figures which he drew vaguely on purpose to avoid including details that would contradict any knowledge of those groups that Daenerys might have which he is unaware of. Whereas, you would imagine that if those people had been drawing themselves, they might put in a bit more effort.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I guess Bran knew he'd be fine because of his Shining, but I can't help that think Littlefinger's only good move when it became clear that Brandon knew things would have been to knife the cripple and try to spin the resulting chaos. Pretty sure LF is aware of how distrusted he is by literally everybody in Winterfell and that he'd be the top suspect of any Bran related stabbings.
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The cave things were drawn by magical elves or martians or whatever though. I don't think they're fake news, sad.
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twoday posted:
What's that image in the upper right?
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Also, if the people who drew that poo poo were actually fighting white walkers and chose to draw it specifically in a cave full of dragon glass on the other end of the continent, you would think they would have included some picture of dragon glass defeating them, or there would have been some evidence of mining or something, but no, it just seems to be a random cave with rock art and dragon glass and then some doodles of humanoids
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Lycus posted:They are able to pay the Iron Bank. That's not what the episode 5 summary says. And narratively, the way things have been leading, it'd make a lot more sense for them to be unable to pay.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What's that image in the upper right? Dead wildlings from 1x01.
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The children of the forest should have left some IKEA looking poo poo in that cave.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What's that image in the upper right? I think it's from some earlier battle sequence north of the wall, no idea what the symbol is. A tree? Like that magic tree they have up there? Edit: Sorry I was looking at the spiral, the spiral is the tree:  I have no idea what the circle is twoday fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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twoday posted:
Anyway what you're describing is exactly how it would have been if it were written by GRRM, but it's not.
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You're probably right and I'm sure it will never be explained, but it makes sense different colors of dye were historically very hard to come by and the sudden use of a new color could indicate that someone with access to chalk came around at a later date. Whatever, it doesn't really affect the plot and I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just having fun playing fantasy-tv-show-archaeologist  Whether it's cannon or not I like to imagine Jon being frustrated with Daeny not believing his story just because she hasn't seen it, and then finding this cave and being awed by the artwork he found, and then hatching a plan to convince her by showing her visible evidence. And it's funny to imagine him standing there for hours drawing in detail the white walkers which haunt his nightmares, and then doing a real half-assed job of drawing the other stuff and running back to the castle feeling all clever twoday fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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was it a happy coincidence or intentional that the last episode aired on the 72nd anniversary of truman's decision to drop the bomb on hiroshima?
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GRRM did write something:quote:The passageway Arianne had chosen for herself turned steep and wet within a hundred feet. The footing grew uncertain. Once she slipped, and had to catch herself to keep from sliding. More than once she considered turning back, but she could see Ser Daemon’s torch ahead and hear him calling for Elia, so she pressed on. And all at once she found herself in another cavern, five times as big as the last one, surrounded by a forest of stone columns. Daemon Sand moved to her side and raised his torch. “Look how the stone’s been shaped,” he said. “Those columns, and the wall there. See them?”
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Jeb! Repetition posted:What's that image in the upper right? It's a Theta which is a recurrent theme in the show and also a sign of the Engineers who terraform planets and furthermore... -preston But seriously it's what the Nights Watch in the opening of the show find. Then they go back and it's gone and the bodies are wights and they get murked.
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