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Sill hope for lady stoneheart season 8!!!
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Re: Dany is barren Maybe the evil witch doctor lady was lying to her out of spite. It's not like we have the scene of Dany going into her local feminine health clinic or anything. has anybody considered this
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Aug 9, 2017 12:48
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Stannis the Nitpicker would be pretty proud of GoT reinforcing the importance of the comma. In one episode they went from "Well done, Lannisters!" to "Well done Lannisters!"
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Aug 9, 2017 12:54
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Propaganda Machine posted:Re: Dany is barren Didn't we get a book scene where she has a menstruation again? It has a long time now that I read it, but I seem to remember that being something of a point for her before she flew off on her dragon to diarrhea-land.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:00
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BreakAtmo posted:Stannis the Nitpicker would be pretty proud of GoT reinforcing the importance of the comma. In one episode they went from "Well done, Lannisters!" to "Well done Lannisters!" I liked the callback to less/fewer this ep.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:01
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Decius posted:Didn't we get a book scene where she has a menstruation again? It has a long time now that I read it, but I seem to remember that being something of a point for her before she flew off on her dragon to diarrhea-land. Her internal monologue in that sequence indicates that she never stopped menstruating as she's wondering whether the vaginal bleeding could be her period of if its too early for that. However, this doesn't confirm or deny whether she's barren or not either way.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:05
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I liked the callback to less/fewer this ep. Yes, that was a touching little wink. Davos is the best, in new ways every episode.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:06
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Propaganda Machine posted:Re: Dany is barren She had enough sexual intercourse without protection after that event without getting pregnant that it's empirically proven that either she is barren or Daario has really lovely sperm.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:38
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RE: Sci-fi ending. I hope that season 8 ends with a reveal that GoT is just an attraction like Westworld.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:40
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GaussianCopula posted:She had enough sexual intercourse without protection after that event without getting pregnant that it's empirically proven that either she is barren or Daario has really lovely sperm. Counterpoint: in the book she and Daario do anal. Does she gently caress anyone else before him, other than Drogo? I thought she only got freaky with Daario because she was about to go into a sham marriage and wanted some before it was too late. And yes this is dumb, but so is the show and most of this thread.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:57
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emanresu tnuocca posted:7 seasons and not a single mention of the queen of the rabbits and her floppy ears. Sad. also no Genna Lannister. Smh
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Aug 9, 2017 14:05
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Isn't there some poo poo about how MMD's prophecy about Dany being barren until some impossible poo poo happens will obliquely come true or some poo poo, like how certain things she says refers to Quentin Martell dying in Mereen, or the eventual collapse of the Wall
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Aug 9, 2017 14:06
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Isn't there some poo poo about how MMD's prophecy about Dany being barren until some impossible poo poo happens will obliquely come true or some poo poo, like how certain things she says refers to Quentin Martell dying in Mereen, or the eventual collapse of the Wall Yeah only Quentin doesn't exist in the show so not sure how that will work out.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:08
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Propaganda Machine posted:Counterpoint: in the book she and Daario do anal. Does she gently caress anyone else before him, other than Drogo? I thought she only got freaky with Daario because she was about to go into a sham marriage and wanted some before it was too late. No "he takes her every way a man can take a woman", not just anal.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:21
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Isn't there some poo poo about how MMD's prophecy about Dany being barren until some impossible poo poo happens will obliquely come true or some poo poo, like how certain things she says refers to Quentin Martell dying in Mereen, or the eventual collapse of the Wall That's actually not how the prophecy is worded. quote:"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before." Basically, if Jon get's her preggo he will have to deal with a very angry Khal Drogo, who will probably not take to kindly to some moody teen loving his wife and getting her pregnant. Not kindly at all.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:37
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As soon as Johnny boy cums in his aunt, the sperm will grow muscles and a beard and stab his dick.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:38
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I'm pretty sure Jon isn't meant to be a teen at this point in the show. In the books he's like 19 or something at the moment, but in the show he started at 17 and it has to have been at least four or five years since then even with the story's vague timeline.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:43
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skasion posted:I'm pretty sure Jon isn't meant to be a teen at this point in the show. In the books he's like 19 or something at the moment, but in the show he started at 17 and it has to have been at least four or five years since then even with the story's vague timeline. Yeah, I believe the gap in time between Robert's Rebellion and the start of the series is a few years longer in the show, so everyone is older, including the adult characters. Sometimes they even go beyond that in aging them up - Ned and Cat are in their thirties and the Hound is a twenty-something, I believe.
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Aug 9, 2017 14:58
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Yep, Ned's actually specifically 35 at the start of Game of Thrones, it's one of the first things we're told about him.
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Aug 9, 2017 15:17
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I'm pretty sure GRRM said at one point that the ending would be a fantasy, not sci-fi, and that people should just give up on calculating orbits or talking about nanobots in Targ blood or whatever. Did this Preston guy never get that memo?
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Aug 9, 2017 16:27
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Drunk in Space posted:I'm pretty sure GRRM said at one point that the ending would be a fantasy, not sci-fi, and that people should just give up on calculating orbits or talking about nanobots in Targ blood or whatever. Did this Preston guy never get that memo? He's got a whole video on that topic. Shows the interviews where he 'denies' it and points out how wushu washy and non-denial they are. Not that I think that's where it's going, but GRRM isn't doing a good job quashing it if it matters to him.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:33
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It's a trick, Jon and Dany isn't the endgame, it's Jon and Arya!
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Aug 9, 2017 16:34
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GRRM did say iirc that the seasons weirdness is attributable to magic and not some kind of sci-fi reason like multiple suns or space anomaly or whatever. On the other hand, he would kind of have to say that, like how Lost's writers claimed the show wasn't all a dream in purgatory or whatever. I don't think he has ever outright denied that the story could have sci-fi elements (and he is a a big fan of Dying Earth which is like the OG fantasy setting that is secretly a sci-fi setting) but I seriously doubt he is planning to go there.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:34
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I think the groundwork has been laid pretty well for Jon/Dany to implement democratic reforms. - Dany is barren, so the Targ line is dead as far as she knows, so why is she so dead-set on winning back the Iron Throne? - Jon has seen how the free folk elect their leaders, and he has implemented free folk ideas since he got back from beyond the Wall. - All the great houses are decimated, so opposition would be hampered. That said, it seems like such an ending would be pandering to modern audiences.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:42
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It would be incredibly stupid for the books to end in a sci-fi explanation for everything.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:44
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Codependent Poster posted:It's a trick, Jon and Dany isn't the endgame, it's Jon and Arya! The final scene is Arya pulling the Dany mask off, to Jon's surprise. "You thought you were loving your Aunt, but I am actually your sister!" "Hot", says Jon, as they kiss.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:45
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The last shot is just going to be a huge aerial zoomout à la Simpsons ending with Macumber's face.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:46
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skasion posted:I'm pretty sure Jon isn't meant to be a teen at this point in the show. In the books he's like 19 or something at the moment, but in the show he started at 17 and it has to have been at least four or five years since then even with the story's vague timeline. How old is Gilly's baby?
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Aug 9, 2017 16:46
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They can't implement any meaningful democratic reforms precisely because they can't have kids. If they die the realm will collapse without a unifying figure, they are not just going to follow a government consisting of Tyrion and Davos and a bunch of foreign weirdoes because a dead guy trusted them. Whoever can control the dragons will rule by force. If the dragons don't survive then the Seven Kingdoms will revert to being Seven Kingdoms because there is no military force to compel them to unite. The shattering of pre-war noble power bases isn't a good thing necessarily, it just means that nobody can really claim any legitimacy to their rule and whoever can hold power can keep it for only so long as they can hold it. I think we are more likely to head for a Fall of Rome type situation where part of Westeros remains under KL's control as a rump state ruled by pretenders, but the North and peripheral regions like Iron Islands and Dorne spin off independently.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:50
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skasion posted:They can't implement any meaningful democratic reforms precisely because they can't have kids. If they die the realm will collapse without a unifying figure, they are not just going to follow a government consisting of Tyrion and Davos and a bunch of foreign weirdoes because a dead guy trusted them. Whoever can control the dragons will rule by force. If the dragons don't survive then the Seven Kingdoms will revert to being Seven Kingdoms because there is no military force to compel them to unite. The shattering of pre-war noble power bases isn't a good thing necessarily, it just means that nobody can really claim any legitimacy to their rule and whoever can hold power can keep it for only so long as they can hold it. I think we are more likely to head for a Fall of Rome type situation where part of Westeros remains under KL's control as a rump state ruled by pretenders, but the North and peripheral regions like Iron Islands and Dorne spin off independently. If Dany dies, the Targ line can continue through Jon.
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PostNouveau posted:If Dany dies, the Targ line can continue through Jon. If anyone but Dany will accept him as a Targ, and if he survives her.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:57
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Maybe there will be that whole Jon must sacrifice himself to end the magic that keeps the zombies alive. It would give justification to how they try to shy away from talking about his revival.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:57
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The peasants achieve class consciousness, rise up and kill Jon, Dany, Cersei and all other undesirables. Communist Westeros is born. Edit: same thing happens to the night king, and undead workers and un-undead workers unite to create a communist utopia. Rated PG-34 fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 16:58
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Rated PG-34 posted:The peasants achieve class consciousness, rise up and kill Jon, Dany, Cersei and all other undesirables. Communist Westeros is born. Full communism now is the end goal of the undead army. Once they get past the Wall, they just fan out and start selling revolutionary newspapers all over Westeros.
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PostNouveau posted:Full communism now is the end goal of the undead army. Once they get past the Wall, they just fan out and start selling revolutionary newspapers all over Westeros. We haven't heard any of the wights speak yet, because when they start it's just the Communist Manifesto on loop forever.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:11
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PostNouveau posted:I think the groundwork has been laid pretty well for Jon/Dany to implement democratic reforms. Perfect set up for Tommen 2: Sweet Robin Tossing people out of the moon door is replaced by roasting them alive with dragonfire. Or still tossing them out of the moon door and seeing if the dragons can eat them before they hit the ground.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:29
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I had a dream that I was rendezvousing Arya in an old abandoned farmhouse in the woods, and I knew she got there before me because her truck was there. I looked around and couldn't find her anywhere, and the creepiness of the environment and the fact that she was missing kept making me more and more paranoid until I was in a full on panick jumping at shadows and looking for secret passages she could be hiding in, but eventually I threw some covers off a bed and she'd just been sleeping the whole time. I was embarrassed that I'd made so much noise and probably woke her up already, and asked her why she was asleep instead of being ready for our spy meeting, and she said a couple had paid her to pretend to be their baby and it had exhausted her.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:32
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Dany is probably genuinely barren in the show. The only ending that makes sense (figuring in that the main four families are our main characters and one of them has to end up on the throne) is that Sansa ends up on the throne. Here's who's left: Jon / Dany - no way. Too happy ending, too pat. They probably die together. Cersei - dies. Arya - no. Bran - ha. Jamie - no. probably dies killing Cersei. Tyrion - can't see that happening. Gendry - as a troll option, maybe. Sansa - went through poo poo, learned to live through torture, learned to scheme but stays on the side of the people, knows her politics enough to get it right. Also it's a light/dark mirror of Cersei, so it's got a nice symmetry to it. ashpanash fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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There's not going to be an Iron Throne. In a symbol of breaking the cycle, Dany will use her dragon to melt it down. You see, because a dragon forged it. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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