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So if that single model is 750000 polys and 5ish gbs of RAM...how is that ever going to run in an actual videogame? You can't exactly "optimize" that to playability without just redoing it and making it like an actual game developer.
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xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:So if that single model is 750000 polys and 5ish gbs of RAM...how is that ever going to run in an actual videogame? You can't exactly "optimize" that to playability without just redoing it and making it like an actual game developer. Don't worry. Chris has learned from that time in 1991–92 when he thought it was incredibly risky to assume that computers would get more powerful and cheaper. Now he knows better, so obviously, new hardware will solve that pesky little problem soon enough.
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xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:So if that single model is 750000 polys and 5ish gbs of RAM...how is that ever going to run in an actual videogame? You can't exactly "optimize" that to playability without just redoing it and making it like an actual game developer. It only has to have the parts that you're looking at in memory, see? It will stream the ship model from disk the way other games stream terrain
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xXAdmiralBekHarXx posted:So if that single model is 750000 polys and 5ish gbs of RAM...how is that ever going to run in an actual videogame? You can't exactly "optimize" that to playability without just redoing it and making it like an actual game developer. Hasn't CIG partnered with simplygon to help automate the generation of LODs from their crazy high poly models?
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Foo Diddley posted:It only has to have the parts that you're looking at in memory, see? It will stream the ship model from disk the way other games stream terrain wasn't this a thing with the caterpillar, that when you pushed the door opening button the doors only opened if they were actually in your line of sight?
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Aug 9, 2017 13:04
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That "Erillion" guy is the major (and almost only) CIG cheer-leader on mmorpg for years now. Seems to be his main occupation.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:14
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Erenthal posted:wasn't this a thing with the caterpillar, that when you pushed the door opening button the doors only opened if they were actually in your line of sight? I don't know, but that certainly sounds like the level of quality that we've come to expect from CIG
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Aug 9, 2017 13:15
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Erenthal posted:wasn't this a thing with the caterpillar, that when you pushed the door opening button the doors only opened if they were actually in your line of sight? Yea lol. I'm not even sure if they ever fixed it. Maybe in doors 2.0.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:36
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It's true that Star Citizen doesn't have microtransactions, because they're not micro in any way. SC has macrotransactions.Colostomy Bag posted:Doors are tough.
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Erenthal posted:wasn't this a thing with the caterpillar, that when you pushed the door opening button the doors only opened if they were actually in your line of sight? Well, you don't want to miss the FIDELITY and IMMERSION of HANDCRAFTED ANIMATIONS doing CATCHY WORD while they TAGLINE and ACRONYM.
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It seems to be taking an awful long time for them to actually get angry that OSC isn't banned, what does the guy have to do.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:55
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I wonder what features he think E:D copied from Star Citizen… I wonder what expansion features he's thinking of that no-one asked for. I wonder if he understands the concept of nickle-and-diming.
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That clip from WTFO's stream yesterday was hilarious. CIG's been hyping the 3.0/2.7 thing for over a year with all these grandiose things and WTFO is talking about them all occurring soon. And then you have Sherman, cig employee, is there now going "chill out weirdo none of that poo poo is coming we are human and its just a game patch". Also the new hope with citizens is that the delta patcher will bring more content faster. And Sherman shut that poo poo down but WTFO was having none it.
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Bootcha posted:Hi guys I hope you are all okay. I am at summer camp having fun before I continue work on the biggest piece of media I have ever done. I look forward to reading your posts. Remember to call your parents. Where's our 24 pages of stuff, Bootcha!?!?!
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I name this video "WTFO has the dawning realisation that CIG's animations are dogshit". Hellblade's animation is, to be totally honest, utterly astonishing and often spine chilling. Little things like how Senua has a proper fighter's gait, putting her offhand forward at all time, because of that she sidesteps when you strafe left, cross leg walks when you go right. THOUGHT has gone into everything, and it's brutally proving that CIG is creatively bankrupt.
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Xaerael posted:I name this video "WTFO has the dawning realisation that CIG's animations are dogshit". But Star Citizen has mopping
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Mne nravitsya posted:Stop it  also indignant "I didn't spend 20k on a 60 dollar game, I spent 18k!!!!" guy is great
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Quavers posted:CIG doing orbital physics, what could possibly go wrong... Roche limit would like to have a word with your celestial body... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit
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Xaerael posted:I name this video "WTFO has the dawning realisation that CIG's animations are dogshit". Any thought of quality in all that mocap went out the window when we saw that guy doing the cargo loading animation with an empty box.
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"Steady on with the conspiracy theories chaps, it's obviously just Derek rather than all the dereks." aleksendr posted:Roche limit would like to have a word with your celestial body... Start with Newton and their poo poo just falls apart. Watch the planetary system livestream and they're painting circles on a flat map; of course the orbits are going to intersect and nary a eyelid was batted. Also Roche limits are kinda on the block for some of the really loving oddities we're observing. Meanwhile, Elite is a barren wasteland of accurate orbital mechanics. Sorry, a _playable_ barren wasteland of accurate orbital mechanics. Hav fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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aleksendr posted:Roche limit would like to have a word with your celestial body... Pff. I bet that silly limit doesn't apply to something that can create and destroy momentum, such as anything that Chris has imagined. Hav posted:Meanwhile, Elite is a barren wasteland of accurate orbital mechanics. Sorry, a _playable_ barren wasteland of accurate orbital mechanics. …except for Mitterand Hollwow, which is allowed to ignore the Roche limit because of its celebrity status. 
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how hard can this mmo thing be *starts making star citizen* oh
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Whew, glad to see Robert's word is gospel.
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14 days grace comes after delivery you moron. People like him are the reason scam artists exist.
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spacetoaster posted:Where's our 24 pages of stuff, Bootcha!?!?! Weeks, not months
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Xaerael posted:Hellblade's animation is, to be totally honest, utterly astonishing and often spine chilling. Little things like how Senua has a proper fighter's gait, putting her offhand forward at all time, because of that she sidesteps when you strafe left, cross leg walks when you go right. Oh wow. I didn't notice this. My favourite touch is the way that her gait plainly changes after you finish a big fight. She stands up straighter and walks with confidence, almost strutting. But then over time the voices and the doubts come back and she hunches down, alone and I terror. This is a wonderful, unsettling game. Also here's a Dev diary about the importance of picking a good default pose and what that implies for your whole animation scheme. e: taxxe 
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I didn't sign any ToS, and simply shrink-wrapping a EULA with a downloader is not ironclad. He seems to have forgotten precedence or the entire concept of 'bad faith', which is entirely at odds with 'arguing with christians on facebook'. The thing he's looking for is 'post hoc ergo propter hoc', and the argument he's emulating has been done over, again and again. The fun thing is that it exposes Dunning-Kruger quite well because he's assuming that his experience is the sum total of experience without then falsifying; debate from a position of being correct isn't a debate, it's an argument. (This post was produced by a team of no faith and a single WASP background)
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One wonders how Citizens will react when 3.0 is delayed again this Friday.
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Quavers posted:One wonders how Citizens will react when 3.0 is delayed again this Friday. "This is good for Star Citizen, since it gives the team more time for polish. Furthermore... " The sickening truth is, that's not a joke. Like the WORM
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What an interesting discussion that whole thread produced! Forgive my rambling, I found the whole thread incredibly interesting. Discussions were considerably more coherent than discussions about the chart on /dereksmart, who conspicuously chose to archive the ugly inverted chart, not the lovely original. (That's hardly good faith documenting, DS friends, I really did endeavor to make it a lovely to look at...) MMORPG forum discussions about Star Citizen fit the future-facing, past-revising positivity bias originally modeled at RSI forums. Permnanent embeds like Max Bacon and Erillion have 10,000+ posts between them yet I've never seen one demanding accountability from CIG, for 'tis Heresy. The "9 Voices of Star Citizen Debate" discussion produced lots of engagement and views yet is the only MMORPG forum post closed from the first page of threads. Why? ("Goons!"  )Self-appointed, totally non-biased forum mayor Erillion rushed straight to ad hominem. Only a few weeks ago, when the Alpha 3.0 Infographic hit his jurisdiction, he countered with sawed-off shotgun blasts stereotyping the source and defending Chris Roberts against the implications of the work: Erillion posted:Posts: 7,663 Erillion, a few posts later..." posted:If you mention "Goons" and "trustworthy" in the same sentence, you have understood nothing about the Goons. I can hardly vouch for my own trustworthiness, of course, but the irony isn't lost that Erillion is one of the most energetic, full-throated defenders of Chris Roberts, a person who has indisputably lied brazenly and repeatedly over a 5 year span. he has done it before live audiences numbering in the five digits and raised $156 million doing it, yet Erillion is not only untroubled by all of that, he's eager to stereotype criticism from SA because not a single participant here can be trusted. We are all uniformly evil, hellbent on chaos, lacking constructive motives, etcetera while Chris Roberts is cool and good and furthermore... So, in light of his take on the Alpha 3.0 chart, it's really rich that only a few weeks later, when the 9 Voices chart hit MMORPG and the OP asked people to identify where they fit on the chart, Erillion immediately identified himself as a "Believer." This is a guy who has written 7,600+ posts in that forum alone, hundreds of which include broadside attacks on critics ("goons!" ), yet he considers himself only mildly-positively biased, not engaged in Evangelism and certainly not attacking perceived threats on moralistic grounds. Are you sure we're the ones engaged in a propaganda war, Erillion? Flashback: MMORPG Thread about Star Marine - January 2016 - a tour de force thread starring Erillion as paladin defender of Chris Roberts, Derek Smart as the firebomb thrower, justagamemode, Sunny's Diner, Lando Santa and the special edition Porsche PLUS a very special guest appearance by Lethality as the "Jason Hutchins is not gone. I welcome proof that he is." guy. Flashback: MMORPG Thread about the Star Citizen tracker - April 2017 - Max Bacon and Erillion sing another stirring rendition of "Goons! " (Max Bacon wanting to host the tracker to make sure it's honest is  though.)
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Daztek posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/6slco7/so_does_render_to_texture_allow_us_to_have_the/ Much like Chris, these people don't seem to grasp that computer games aren't real. It's pretty shocking, really.
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Xaerael posted:I name this video "WTFO has the dawning realisation that CIG's animations are dogshit". Also, Hellblade was made by a team of only 15 people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL9X1Z0OAbs
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