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When Fallout: New Vegas came out I thought the Caesar's Legion was cartoonishly evil, but fast forward 7 years and there are literally misogynist reactionaries cosplaying in lorica segmentata in the streets.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:When Fallout: New Vegas came out I thought the Caesar's Legion was cartoonishly evil, but fast forward 7 years and there are literally misogynist reactionaries cosplaying in lorica segmentata in the streets. Yeah I was upset about the writing making a "moral choice" between a bloated bureaucracy that the game couldn't really find a reason to suggest you support them other than "you should" and unhinged group of marauders that didn't understand the history they were cosplaying as but here we are. Turns out we're gonna elect someone in 2024 who is secretly my son.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:24
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Darkman Fanpage posted:the purring dunmer is this a spinoff of the lusty argonian maid
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Aug 9, 2017 16:32
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Bushiz posted:Yeah I was upset about the writing making a "moral choice" between a bloated bureaucracy that the game couldn't really find a reason to suggest you support them other than "you should" and unhinged group of marauders that didn't understand the history they were cosplaying as but here we are. Well the great thing about New Vegas's writing is that you could always reject those choices in favor of two (technically three) other paths for the world, and that a revolutionary upheaval against all extant powers is still possible. It's also worth noting that Caesar himself doesn't even believe in the professed ideology of his own faction, and is only using it as a means first to realize his own personal aggrandizement, and to attempt to found a civilization that can last the test of time in a culturally fractured wasteland. That's obviously a kind of cynicism we see over and over again in all of the alt-right's "thought leaders."
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Aug 9, 2017 16:52
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zegermans posted:is this a spinoff of the lusty argonian maid no it's a post found on the village message board written by an altright nord about how cats are making nord women infertile
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Aug 9, 2017 17:02
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Well the great thing about New Vegas's writing is that you could always reject those choices in favor of two (technically three) other paths for the world, and that a revolutionary upheaval against all extant powers is still possible. i mean christ it's the same reason donald trump ran as a republican because even if he's not a pious evangelical or hold dear a lot of their ideals he realized it'd be easy to bully and yell his way to the top.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:08
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POWER IS POWER
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Aug 9, 2017 17:09
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just realized that's a got quote... 
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Aug 9, 2017 17:10
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Darkman Fanpage posted:no it's a post found on the village message board written by an altright nord about how cats are making nord women infertile Khajiit is innocent of this crime.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:12
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but not of getting slammed on skooma and pissing all over the tavern rug...
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Aug 9, 2017 17:14
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zegermans posted:Khajiit is innocent of this crime.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:18
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:How? The rebels are literally Nord supremacists who want to kick out all the other races from Skyrim, and they're treated like a legitimate choice. The rebels are presented as playing into the Thalmor's hands, and their leader is an impulsive hypocrite who murdered his king by abusing the Voice. They're only legitimate if you hang out with them and never think about anything for a few seconds. Also the ultimate power in the game is shouting really loud.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:20
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all i know is that dragons are retards
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Aug 9, 2017 17:27
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Hodgepodge posted:The rebels are presented as playing into the Thalmor's hands, and their leader is an impulsive hypocrite who murdered his king by abusing the Voice. They're only legitimate if you hang out with them and never think about anything for a few seconds. They're legitimate because siding with the rebels and overthrowing the Empire has no appreciable consequence on the world, and the Thalmor are ultimately irrelevant to the course of the game's events. By the time the next Elder Scrolls comes out, the Thalmor probably won't exist. Even taking the two geopolitical sides at face value, the Aldmeri Dominion and Empire merely represent two aristocracies rooted in different forms of supremacism. The former being an empire ruled by elves, and the latter being an empire ruled by men. Whoever wins the geopolitical struggle for Tamriel ultimately doesn't matter, unless you really care about the race of the ruling class.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They're legitimate because siding with the rebels and overthrowing the Empire has no appreciable consequence on the world, and the Thalmor are ultimately irrelevant to the course of the game's events. By the time the next Elder Scrolls comes out, the Thalmor probably won't exist. Except the Thalmor want to kill all non-Elves and ultimately destroy the world and cackle about how cartoonishly evil they are while they persecute anyone who worships a god they dislike for being a human, while the Empire is a cosmopolitan empire which used to have literal divine approval. Which side you pick has no tangible effect on the world of the game because it's an Elder Scrolls game.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:41
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They're legitimate because siding with the rebels and overthrowing the Empire has no appreciable consequence on the world, and the Thalmor are ultimately irrelevant to the course of the game's events. By the time the next Elder Scrolls comes out, the Thalmor probably won't exist. I'm an orc, so there'd be racism against me whether the empire is one of men or mer.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:42
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Hodgepodge posted:Except the Thalmor want to kill all non-Elves and ultimately destroy the world and cackle about how cartoonishly evil they are while they persecute anyone who worships a god they dislike for being a human, while the Empire is a cosmopolitan empire which used to have literal divine approval. Killing the emperor doesn't have any tangible effect either
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Killing the emperor doesn't have any tangible effect either He seems really resigned about being assassinated, iirc.
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Hodgepodge posted:Except the Thalmor want to kill all non-Elves and ultimately destroy the world and cackle about how cartoonishly evil they are But they don't? All I remember from the main quest of the game was that the Thalmor were trying to weaken the Empire by surreptitiously supporting the stormcloaks. The main quest even confirms the fact that the Thalmor have nothing to do with Alduin coming back to devour the world. I skimmed the Elder Scrolls wiki entry on the Thalmor, and there's no hint of any kind of genocidal agenda.
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i'm an atheist in a world where the gods literally interefere in the realm of men and mer
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:But they don't? All I remember from the main quest of the game was that the Thalmor were trying to weaken the Empire by surreptitiously supporting the stormcloaks. The main quest even confirms the fact that the Thalmor have nothing to do with Alduin coming back to devour the world. I skimmed the Elder Scrolls wiki entry on the Thalmor, and there's no hint of any kind of genocidal agenda. Their plan isn't related to Alduin, but an esoteric thing where erasing the effect of men existing lets them go back to the age of legends, which is why they're so intent on a man not being able to be a god. There's a lot of stuff in books and so forth about the non-crazy Aldmer being freaked about about what they're doing back on the Summerset Isles and their ultimate agenda.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:But they don't? All I remember from the main quest of the game was that the Thalmor were trying to weaken the Empire by surreptitiously supporting the stormcloaks. The main quest even confirms the fact that the Thalmor have nothing to do with Alduin coming back to devour the world. I skimmed the Elder Scrolls wiki entry on the Thalmor, and there's no hint of any kind of genocidal agenda. Nah, they ain't got poo poo to do with Alduin, but the Thalmor are extremists that consider the creation of the world, and the deception of the gods by Shor, to be a bad move. They want to destroy the physical realm so they can go back to being awesome spirit things instead of fleshy weaklings that also happen to use magic. Their goal is to destroy the seven, iirc, anchors that keep the physical plane from being torn apart in the turbulent planes of oblivion. This isn't ever stated in the game, but it's scattered around in the books you find.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:They're legitimate because siding with the rebels and overthrowing the Empire has no appreciable consequence on the world, and the Thalmor are ultimately irrelevant to the course of the game's events. By the time the next Elder Scrolls comes out, the Thalmor probably won't exist. lol@this guy thinking Nords count as human
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Their main genocidal agenda in the game is enforcing the treaty they forced the Empire into which allows them to go into other people's territory to murder anyone who worships Talos. Which is also the main point of contention in the civil war.
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Also, the detail on the Thalmor wrecking the Kalpic cycle is Kirkbride lore. CODA goes into depth on this, the actual games not so much.
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I didn't know kurt eichenwald posted in /pol/
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Coolness Averted posted:I didn't know kurt eichenwald posted in /pol/ only for "research"
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Aug 9, 2017 19:12
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actually, if you call them racist or white they explode in indignant rage, hth
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Kjoery posted:actually, if you call them racist or white they explode in indignant rage, hth Honestly, it doesn't take much to make them explode in indignant rage, really.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm an orc, so there'd be racism against me whether the empire is one of men or mer. This but unironically.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APrBdP0bBJM
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Aug 9, 2017 20:45
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Is that racism sniffing dog account still active on reddit? That's pretty much the best account ever based on the huge rage replies they can get for just posting "woof" basically anywhere.
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Aug 9, 2017 21:09
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Elephant Ambush posted:Is that racism sniffing dog account still active on reddit? That's pretty much the best account ever based on the huge rage replies they can get for just posting "woof" basically anywhere. lol please show this to me
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Aug 9, 2017 21:12
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Darkman Fanpage posted:lol please show this to me It was big back around 2012, and would just reply to racist posts with barking which drove them all nuts. There was a misogyny equivalent gimmick as well, but I don't remember what it was called. Both got a fair amount of play here during the run up to the Pedocaust of that year as I recall. I have no idea if any of them still exist because lol gently caress reddit.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Is that racism sniffing dog account still active on reddit? That's pretty much the best account ever based on the huge rage replies they can get for just posting "woof" basically anywhere. the most recent good gimmick account was this guy but he hasn't posted in a month https://www.reddit.com/user/explainsracistjokes e: see below
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 https://www.reddit.com/user/nazi_sniffing_dog 4 years ago https://www.reddit.com/user/racism_sniffing_dog 6 months ago
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i probably saw it and dont remember it because i was around for the pedocaust on reddit if that's what you're referring to. i do remember during that time goons were running a subreddit called r/shittedditsays that was a depository for all the horrible/creepy poo poo people would post. they really did not like that.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i probably saw it and dont remember it because i was around for the pedocaust on reddit if that's what you're referring to. i do remember during that time goons were running a subreddit called r/shittedditsays that was a depository for all the horrible/creepy poo poo people would post. they really did not like that. they're still mad at SRS even though it hasn't been active in like 5 years or whenever the reddit.txt thread in DnD got headshotted
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