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enraged_camel posted:Fun fact about Hiroshima and Nagasaki: the US was actually planning to drop 12 atomic bombs on Japan. Like, if they had not surrendered after Nagasaki, there would be a third, then a fourth, etc. The US only had three deployable nukes at the time.
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we have to bomb the unicorn lair
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enraged_camel posted:Fun fact about Hiroshima and Nagasaki: the US was actually planning to drop 12 atomic bombs on Japan. Like, if they had not surrendered after Nagasaki, there would be a third, then a fourth, etc. How is that? I seem to recall that the US only had those two bombs (other than the third which had been tested at los Alamos) at that time, and wouldn't be able to make any additional bombs for months b/c of the difficulty of making fissile material?
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Data Graham posted:Sure is gonna be great that 60 years of North Korean militarization and propaganda about the evil crazy imperialist Americans coming to nuke them any day now will all turn out to have been completely justified It's less some sort of crazy irony and more "North Korea realized America wanted regime change since the korean war and would kill them at any chance like they always do"
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/us-planned-to-drop-12-atomic-bombs-on-japan
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Mustached Demon posted:If you didn't see Patty's joke the first go around you should remove that giant stick from your butt holy poo poo. Patty Murray's key legislative accomplishment so far was the budget she negotiated with Paul Ryan in 2013. Not exactly a left-wing firebrand.
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Aug 10, 2017 02:24
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I wish Guy Fieri was president instead of Donald Trump
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Data Graham posted:Sure is gonna be great that 60 years of North Korean militarization and propaganda about the evil crazy imperialist Americans coming to nuke them any day now will all turn out to have been completely justified I'm not sure a self-fulfilling prophecy is considered 'justified' but sure. I wonder if an actual launch towards Guam will result in a BMD response, it doesn't not take long to determine where it's headed.
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Data Graham posted:Sure is gonna be great that 60 years of North Korean militarization and propaganda about the evil crazy imperialist Americans coming to nuke them any day now will all turn out to have been completely justified Are you still a Cassandra if you work really hard for 60 years to get that unbelievable thing you keep saying to happen?
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prom candy posted:I wish Guy Fieri was president instead of Donald Trump Donald Trump is to politics what Guy Fieri is to food, so...congratulations?
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WampaLord posted:Maybe people should have actual beliefs and not behave according to popularity polls This is funny because it's true 
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That's missing a lot of key context, namely that Truman ordered the Army to hold off from dropping the next bomb, it wouldn't have been able to have been dropped within the next week anyway due to weather conditions, and the next bomb after that wouldn't have been ready for weeks, if not months.
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If you're interested in reading an actual in-depth history of the US nuclear program though, Command and Control is an excellent and horrifying read.
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BlueberryCanary posted:How is that? I seem to recall that the US only had those two bombs (other than the third which had been tested at los Alamos) at that time, and wouldn't be able to make any additional bombs for months b/c of the difficulty of making fissile material? Yeah, the US was hardcore planning to invade so they probably wouldn't have been planning nukes at the same time. I was reading some info about the B-24 bomber and the US canceled an order for 5000 in 1945 because the war finally ended. So they were planning on really bombing Japan with conventional bombs.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, the US was hardcore planning to invade so they probably wouldn't have been planning nukes at the same time. Which they had already been doing for months.
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prom candy posted:I wish Guy Fieri was president instead of Donald Trump I think it's really not cool to wish for a war against France stemming from pure culinary principle.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, the US was hardcore planning to invade so they probably wouldn't have been planning nukes at the same time. Oh, the invasion wouldn't have stopped the nukes. IIRC the initial plans for Operation Downfall involved the use of nuclear weapons to clear the invasion beaches, because things like "Fallout" weren't exactly well-understood at the time.
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Enigma89 posted:This is funny because it's true I HATE it when politicians govern according to the will of their constituencies
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Acebuckeye13 posted:If you're interested in reading an actual in-depth history of the US nuclear program though, Command and Control is an excellent and horrifying read. Seconding this recommendation. It's an easy read, but yeah, pretty grim. And the U.S.' nuclear security & surety framework is still in tatters, so...yaaaaaay.
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Nut Better posted:Chicken still there It was designed by Casey Latiolais. https://www.behance.net/gallery/46772365/Year-of-the-Rooster
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Majorian posted:Patty Murray's key legislative accomplishment so far was the budget she negotiated with Paul Ryan in 2013. Not exactly a left-wing firebrand. How dare she do her job.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I HATE it when politicians govern according to the will of their constituencies Wooooooooosh
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I HATE it when politicians govern according to the will of their constituencies Part of the reason why we have a representative system is because sometimes the majority opinion is wrong. Mustached Demon posted:How dare she do her job. All right buddy, keep on supportin' that totally not racist, totally necessary border wall.
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Guy Fieri would make this joint great again
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, the US was hardcore planning to invade so they probably wouldn't have been planning nukes at the same time. Units in Iraq and Afghanistan got Purple Hearts from the lot made for the invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall). I think we've only finally used them up in the last couple of years.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I HATE it when politicians govern according to the will of their constituencies Their constituencies or the ones that vote and donate? Come on now.
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Majorian posted:Seconding this recommendation. It's an easy read, but yeah, pretty grim. And the U.S.' nuclear security & surety framework is still in tatters, so...yaaaaaay. At least it's better than it was, though (Not that it could've been much worse). Christ, just imagine Curtis LeMay's SAC under Trump's White House, we would've all been dead before the end of the first hundred days.
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https://twitter.com/guwop/status/895354751298220033
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Giggy posted:Which they had already been doing for months. Yeah, but they were planning on building a lot of smaller bombers with 5k lb loads instead of big B-29's with 20k lb loads. My guess is they didn't expect big enough targets left to drop 20k lbs on.
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Aug 10, 2017 02:33
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Enigma89 posted:Their constituencies or the ones that vote and donate? Come on now. Well that's true. Mandatory voting would be interesting.
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If it weren't for the Confederate flag I could respect this.
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Lol book a trip to NK dumbass and go after him yourself
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Pretty sure this guy doesn't remember what happened the last time that flag picked a fight with the north.
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Aug 10, 2017 02:35
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That replica cavalry saber looks like it could do some damage. To, you know. Bugs.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, the US was hardcore planning to invade so they probably wouldn't have been planning nukes at the same time. Topical: We dropped more bombs on North Korea than we did the entire pacific theater during WW2.
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Jaxyon posted:Topical: We dropped more bombs on North Korea than we did the entire pacific theater during WW2. I believe Macarthur wanted to use nukes there too.
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I don't know man, Grant and Sherman sure did a number on you guys... Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, but they were planning on building a lot of smaller bombers with 5k lb loads instead of big B-29's with 20k lb loads. Actually, they found standard bomb loads were largely ineffective in Japan. Then they tried firebombing, and that did the trick. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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Mustached Demon posted:Pretty sure this guy doesn't remember what happened the last time that flag picked a fight with the north. 
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Jaxyon posted:Topical: We dropped more bombs on North Korea than we did the entire pacific theater during WW2. I don't know how accurate it is, but Wikipedia says Germany dropped 18,291 tons of bombs on London in 71 raids during the Blitz. Which sounds positively quaint considering what got dropped on Axis cities. The advantage of strategic bombing over tactical. EDIT: and I think we dropped more on Vietnam than the Pacific and European theaters combined. Now I kind of want to chart out a line graph on bomb loads since WWI. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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