Current Events August 2017: A Song of Tweets and Fire

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facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Trump addressed Russia kicking out our diplomats.

https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/895746093862006784

:psyduck:

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Aug 10, 2017

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:21

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sharknado slashfic: Jun 24, 2011

Reverand maynard posted:

Time to short the South Korean economy and pray for nuclear war

Between this and eth mining I'll never get a new graphics card

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:24

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

TBeats posted:

so how hosed is everyone in SK if pyongyang catches a nuke?

because it would be kind of weird to watch chest thumping, military boner republicans and republican supporters kill a bunch of american troops and be okay with it.

because i am 100% certain there's a larger than acceptable group of people that would cheer him on if he nuked NK and killed abunch of american troops in the process.

the same Republicans that are all aboard turbo-loving transgendered service members?

remember, they care about the idea of the military, not the actual people.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:33

Mike-o: Dec 25, 2004; Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed; Grimey Drawer

Proud Christian Mom posted:

remember, they care about the idea of the military, not the actual people.

Much like most of the military leadership.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:37

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Proud Christian Mom posted:

the same Republicans that are all aboard turbo-loving transgendered service members?

remember, they care about the idea of the military, not the actual people.

well actually!

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/895746447227977729

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:42

The Iron Rose: May 12, 2012; Cat Army

Casimir Radon posted:

I decided I was a libertarian towards the end of high school because it's a philosophy that appeals to dumb self-centered teenagers. I'd startes to turn against that in a pretty big way on my early 20s thanks to exposure to the real world, and being really mad about the knots people would tie themselves into for anti-Obama nonsense. Seriously, you're going to flip out about Michelle wearing shorts when they go on vacation?! gently caress you! I thoroughly loathed Republicans by this point. Scott Walker's bullshit after he got elected turned me from thinking libertarians were merely misguided, into outright hating them.

The guy is a loving sleezeball, ans Wisconsin's inability to get rid of him or Johnson makes me question why I ever thought it was an ok place. At a finer level you have shitbags like Ryan and Duffy that will probably never go away either.

To be fair, in 2014 the dems ran a woman whose only qualification was becoming the CEO of Daddy's corporation... and who had done next to nothing to improve or further develop the company. She was an idiot and an incompetent.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:43

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

I'm mad about transgenders!
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# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:48

Sexual Lorax: Mar 17, 2004; HERE'S TO FUCKING; Fun Shoe

The Iron Rose posted:

To be fair, in 2014 the dems ran a woman whose only qualification was becoming the CEO of Daddy's corporation... and who had done next to nothing to improve or further develop the company. She was an idiot and an incompetent.

Don't forget that she served all of one term on the Madison school board. gently caress Mike Tate with an ice auger, forever.

Edit: vvvv Uh...holy poo poo, am I reading this wrong, or did water desalination just get a whole lot easier, with a side of power generation to sweeten the deal?

Sexual Lorax fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Aug 10, 2017

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:51

Delizin: Nov 9, 2005; It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.

In good news: Army researchers made an aluminum nanomaterial to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen with no electricity or catalysts.

https://www.army.mil/article/191212/army_discovery_may_offer_new_energy_source

quote:

ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, Md. -- Army scientists and engineers recently made a groundbreaking discovery -- an aluminum nanomaterial of their design produces high amounts of energy when it comes in contact with water, or with any liquid containing water.

During routine materials experimentation at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory, a team of researchers observed a bubbling reaction when adding water to a nano-galvanic aluminum-based powder.

"We all as a team were very excited and ecstatic that something good had happened," said Dr. Anit Giri, a physicist with the lab's Weapons and Materials Research Directorate.

The team further investigated and found that water -- two molecules of hydrogen and one of oxygen -- splits apart when coming into contact with their unique aluminum nanomaterial.

The reaction surprised the researchers, but they soon considered its potential implications for future power and energy applications.

"The hydrogen that is given off can be used as a fuel in a fuel cell," said Scott Grendahl, a materials engineer and team leader. "What we discovered is a mechanism for a rapid and spontaneous hydrolysis of water."

Scientists have known for a long time that hydrogen can be produced by adding a catalyst (a substance that increases a chemical reaction rate) to aluminum. But these methods take time, elevated temperature, added electricity, and/or toxic chemicals such as sodium hydroxide, potassium hydroxide or acid.

"In our case, it does not need a catalyst," Giri said. "Also, it is very fast. For example, we have calculated that one kilogram of aluminum powder can produce 220 kilowatts of energy in just three minutes."

That metric doubles if you consider the amount of heat energy produced by the exothermic reaction, he said.

"That's a lot of power to run any electrical equipment," Giri said. "These rates are the fastest known without using catalysts such as an acid, base or elevated temperatures."

The team demonstrated with small radio-controlled tank powered by the powder and water reaction. Moments after mixing the powder with a small amount of water, a bubbling reaction produced a great deal of hydrogen, which was then used to power the model around the laboratory.

"We just take our material, put it in the water and the water splits down into hydrogen and oxygen," Grendahl said.

Grendahl said the discovery is dramatic in terms of its future potential.

"There are other researchers who have been searching their whole lives and their optimized product takes many hours to achieve, say 50 percent efficiency," Grendahl said. "Ours does it to nearly 100 percent efficiency in less than three minutes."

Additionally, since the nanomaterial powder has the potential to be 3-D printed, researchers envision future air and ground robots that can feed off of their very structures and self-destruct after mission completion.

Researchers said one possible application of the discovery that may help future Soldiers is the potential to recharge mobile devices for recon teams.

"These teams are out for a short number of days, three to five days, and a lot of that depends not only on their food supplies, but on how long their supplies last in terms of their equipment and right now that stems from lithium batteries," Grendahl said. "If we can recharge those batteries, they can stay out longer."

Giri said the work at the Army Research Laboratory is all about giving Soldiers the advantage.

"We work here to help our Soldiers," Giri said. "That is our sole aim. This material we have developed will do so."

The next steps are to document the discovery with scholarly papers and intellectual property protections, some of which are ongoing, and to coordinate further applications with scientists and engineers across the laboratory.

"We all feel pretty good that this can contribute to a new kind of research to generate power at ease and at will," Giri said. "I come to work every day excited and enthusiastic."

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The U.S. Army Research Laboratory, currently celebrating 25 years of excellence in Army science and technology,is part of the U.S. Army Research, Development and Engineering Command, which has the mission to provide innovative research, development and engineering to produce capabilities for decisive overmatch to the Army against the complexities of the current and future operating environments in support of the Joint Warfighter and the Nation. RDECOM is a major subordinate command of the U.S. Army Materiel Command.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:52

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

TBeats posted:

well actually!

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/895746447227977729

Full quote.

https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/895743494353977349

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:57

KirbyKhan: Mar 20, 2009; Soiled Meat

Delizin posted:

In good news: Army researchers made an aluminum nanomaterial to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen with no electricity or catalysts.

https://www.army.mil/article/191212/army_discovery_may_offer_new_energy_source

I cannot wait for my grandkids to burn a block on nanometal to get their TO holobricks to charge on their 11th hour out of. The flightless.

The future is dope sometimes.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 21:59

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

https://twitter.com/AaronMehta/status/895750141528768512

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:02

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Delizin posted:

In good news: Army researchers made an aluminum nanomaterial to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen with no electricity or catalysts.

https://www.army.mil/article/191212/army_discovery_may_offer_new_energy_source

220kw of energy not counting heat :stare:

like that's nowhere near fossil fuel levels but since it's acting as a cracker not a fuel that's not the point. I've been saying about hydrogen for years it's too expensive to create the hydrogen but jesus... this is good

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:03

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Handsome Ralph posted:

https://twitter.com/AaronMehta/status/895750141528768512

One time when I was in 9th grade I had to do a science presentation in class. It went about as well as this statement and I failed the assignment.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:05

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

TBeats posted:

One time when I was in 9th grade I had to do a science presentation in class. It went about as well as this statement and I failed the assignment.

His staff knows how stupid he sounds.

https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/895753330454142977

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:07

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

This is the president of the United States thinking that expelled diplomats are suddenly off the payroll

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/895747111865790465

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:10

brains: May 12, 2004

Delizin posted:

In good news: Army researchers made an aluminum nanomaterial to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen with no electricity or catalysts.

https://www.army.mil/article/191212/army_discovery_may_offer_new_energy_source

this reads like one of those "amazing breakthrough entropy-violating process just discovered in basement, works better than all other conventional designs, all it needs now is your money!!" unverified website claims.

except it's not :psyduck:

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:11

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Delizin posted:

In good news: Army researchers made an aluminum nanomaterial to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen with no electricity or catalysts.

https://www.army.mil/article/191212/army_discovery_may_offer_new_energy_source

I wouldn't trust a news article that uses kW as a unit of energy.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:11

crazyivan45: Apr 30, 2008

Can a president unilaterally order a nuclear strike or is there a two-man rule in place? IE: Trump gets mad at lil Kim, decides to cleanse Pyongyang, can he just ask for the football and launch? Or does he have to get someone else in his cabinet to agree as well? If so, whats to stop him from just going down the list until he gets a yes?

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:13

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

Two people on the NSC have to agree, I think.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:15

not caring here: Feb 22, 2012; blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Two Finger posted:

220kw of energy not counting heat like that's nowhere near fossil fuel levels but since it's acting as a cracker not a fuel that's not the point. I've been saying about hydrogen for years it's too expensive to create the hydrogen but jesus... this is good

What's the energy density of say gasoline or diesel?

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:15

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

If Mattis gets fired, I would bet it's because Trump is trying to get nukes launched.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:17

Genocide Tendency: Dec 24, 2009; I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.

crazyivan45 posted:

Can a president unilaterally order a nuclear strike or is there a two-man rule in place? IE: Trump gets mad at lil Kim, decides to cleanse Pyongyang, can he just ask for the football and launch? Or does he have to get someone else in his cabinet to agree as well? If so, whats to stop him from just going down the list until he gets a yes?

If I remember correctly, its technically his call. But lets get real, there are enough adults in the administration and DoD that he can scream all he wants, they aren't launching poo poo unless US personnel or property is hit first.

To be honest. I really don't think this is anything worth making GBS threads ourselves over. Kim Jong whatthefuckeveroneweareonnow is just doing the same saber rattling North Korea has been doing since the 50s and now we have an idiot who is yelling back. No one is going to do anything that causes actual war*.

_{* - Subject to change.}

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:19

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

crazyivan45 posted:

Can a president unilaterally order a nuclear strike or is there a two-man rule in place? IE: Trump gets mad at lil Kim, decides to cleanse Pyongyang, can he just ask for the football and launch? Or does he have to get someone else in his cabinet to agree as well? If so, whats to stop him from just going down the list until he gets a yes?

legally and funtionally its 100% the presidents call. People in the room have to not allow him to physically give the order for that to change. The people in the CoC could theoretically ignore the order but they drill such that they shouldn't ever really know the difference between a training order and a real order for that exact purpose.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:25

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2016/11/18/the-president-and-the-bomb/

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:26

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

tastefully arranged labia posted:

Two people on the NSC have to agree, I think.

Bannon and Kushner. Boom.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:29

Loving Africa Chaps: Dec 3, 2007; We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/nukes/

Radiolab did a good podcast on the nuke chain of command

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:30

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

M_Gargantua posted:

legally and funtionally its 100% the presidents call. People in the room have to not allow him to physically give the order for that to change. The people in the CoC could theoretically ignore the order but they drill such that they shouldn't ever really know the difference between a training order and a real order for that exact purpose.

Are nuke officers sequestered from the rest of the world while they're on duty so they never know if they're doing the real thing?

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:31

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

not caring here posted:

What's the energy density of say gasoline or diesel?

Been a while but I remember 47MJ/L for diesel. You need to remember though this is just the energy of the reaction, providing free hydrogen which is substantially energy denser than diesel.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:32

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

This tweet got deleted. Try to figure out why.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:34

Eugene V. Dubstep: Oct 4, 2013; Can't post for 8 years!

TBeats posted:

This tweet got deleted. Try to figure out why.

They misspelled "peek"?

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:44

orange juche: Mar 14, 2012

Two Finger posted:

Been a while but I remember 47MJ/L for diesel. You need to remember though this is just the energy of the reaction, providing free hydrogen which is substantially energy denser than diesel.

If you convert 220kW to MJ using E(J) = 1000 � P(kW) � t(s) you get E(J) = 1000*220*240 or 52,800,000 Joules of energy produced just from the hydrogen liberated from the reaction. That's 52.8 MJ/L for the aluminum reaction. It has a higher energy density than either gasoline or diesel, assuming no losses of energy.

BTW kW is a unit of energy just like a joule, a kW/h is a unit of power (which would be wrong). So the article wasn't wrong in using kW, but it would have been better to use Joule so we didn't have to convert it.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Aug 10, 2017

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:46

Hannibal Rex: Feb 13, 2010

Shoot, a fella� could have a pretty good weekend in Kabul with all that stuff.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:48

Professor Bling: Nov 12, 2008; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

at the date posted:

They misspelled "peek"?

No they didn't :gizz:

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:51

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

at the date posted:

They misspelled "peek"?

Look closer at the contents.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:53

Hunterhr: Jan 4, 2007; And The Beast, Satan said unto the LORD, "You Fucking Suck" and juked him out of his goddamn shoes

TBeats posted:

This is the president of the United States thinking that expelled diplomats are suddenly off the payroll

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/895747111865790465

What in the Jesus

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:54

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

https://twitter.com/wasim_dr/status/895347968429232133

Global warming. Nuclear war. End of days

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:55

not caring here: Feb 22, 2012; blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

orange juche posted:

If you convert 220kW to MJ using E(J) = 1000 � P(kW) � t(s) you get E(J) = 1000*220*240 or 52,800,000 Joules of energy produced just from the hydrogen liberated from the reaction. That's 52.8 MJ/L for the aluminum reaction. It has a higher energy density than either gasoline or diesel, assuming no losses of energy.

BTW kW is a unit of energy just like a joule, a kW/h is a unit of power (which would be wrong). So the article wasn't wrong in using kW, but it would have been better to use Joule so we didn't have to convert it.

Holy poo poo.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 22:59

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

Two Finger posted:

220kw of energy not counting heat like that's nowhere near fossil fuel levels but since it's acting as a cracker not a fuel that's not the point. I've been saying about hydrogen for years it's too expensive to create the hydrogen but jesus... this is good

The article doesn't seem to state at all what's acting as the fuel so something clearly got lost in translation there. Maybe the Al grabs the O from the water, I forgot how to determine whether or not that would fit the bill of what they describe, i.e. the reaction being exothermic.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 23:00

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 22:50

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

If anybody knows someone in the press pool, survey then to see if any of them would risk getting shot by the secret service if trump pulls out the football in the middle of a presser to act macho.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 23:02

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