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Yeah it sucks that the Greens support drop seems to have matched NZF's due to the Labour leadership change, yet it will all be put down to Metiria. That said, I don't think these polls capture the scope of the Greens' drop, since the polling period started before any of the poo poo hit the fan with them and ended before any of the resignations. I'd expect to see them around 6-7% in subsequent polls, barring any resurgence. voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Kennedy Graham is trying to rejoin the party. Talks are currently in progress.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:32
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His big achievement is being responsible for cross-party work on climate change, which like... hasn't amounted to poo poo lol
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Aug 9, 2017 23:54
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He is 71 years old, the only reason for him to come back would be to deliver a farewell address midway through the next parliamentary term.
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Aug 10, 2017 00:57
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Even Kennedy Graham's own party has always struggled not to call him "Graham Kennedy".
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Aug 10, 2017 01:32
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Given the rest of his family he probably isn't in a hurry to correct them.
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Aug 10, 2017 01:40
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:
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Aug 10, 2017 04:40
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New Zealand's fairest and most impartial political/social commentator, Mike Hosking, is going to host all the debates.  There's a petition to remove him if anyone cares/thinks TVNZ will care https://www.change.org/p/tvnz-remove-mike-hosking-as-presenter-for-2017-election-debates/
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Aug 10, 2017 05:59
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Kind of interesting that ardern & shaw are letting Winston do all the "petty" complaining stuff
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Aug 10, 2017 06:13
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I vote no one cares
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Aug 10, 2017 06:34
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Is there even anyone left on the Greens to vote for now
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Lolquote:Please sign the petition to remove Mike as presenter and replace him with any of the much less biased presenters New Zealand has to offer such as Jack Tame, John Campbell, Corin Dann, Hillary Barry or Nigel Latta. Are there any neutral high profile journos left? Also, why the hell does the moderator have to be high profile? Who gives a poo poo who they are just keep them on the debate rules
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WarpedNaba posted:Is there even anyone left on the Greens to vote for now Don't worry, Graeme Kennedy is coming back
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exmarx posted:Kind of interesting that ardern & shaw are letting Winston do all the "petty" complaining stuff I think it's clever, Winston can do his dog/bone act and jacinda gets to be above it all. not to mention we've just had an object lesson in What Matters for politicians so everything bill e did is potentially going to be viewed through that lens.
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Minor update: it doesn't look like Kennedy Graham will be allowed back. It's going to go to a vote of the membership, and the general vibe I'm getting is "gently caress no". If you have strong opinions on this (regardless of whether you're a formal member or not), you can hit up your local co-convenors: https://www.greens.org.nz/contact SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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Aug 10, 2017 06:52
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Today I had a customer roll on up to me and tell me I better vote national! Because the country will go to poo poo otherwise! When Helen Clark came into power his business lost a hundred thousand dollars! Then he took his $10000 dirt bike and towed it home in his VW amarok.
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Aug 10, 2017 06:59
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Eat the rich
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WarpedNaba posted:Is there even anyone left on the Greens to vote for now Marama Davidson is pretty good.
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Golriz owns https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/status/895528036614914049
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:If you have strong opinions on this (regardless of whether you're a formal member or not), you can hit up your local co-convenors: https://www.greens.org.nz/contact The party leadership seem to have been pushing this instruction ever since they decided to back Metiria.
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We just had two weeks of concentrated class warfare. The nation has already gone to poo poo and the only way out is pushing through this river of poo poo until we come out the other end clean.
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Taitale posted:Marama Davidson is pretty good. It was certainly pretty heartbreaking being at Marama's Christchurch event just after the news about Metiria broke. But Metiria was definitely not the only one worth voting for. Marama, Mojo Mathers and a bunch of less prominent people are all fighting for the same goals.
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slinkimalinki posted:It was certainly pretty heartbreaking being at Marama's Christchurch event just after the news about Metiria broke. But Metiria was definitely not the only one worth voting for. Marama, Mojo Mathers and a bunch of less prominent people are all fighting for the same goals. I wanted to go to that but I was disgustingly tired last night. I spent close to an hour and a half standing around waiting for the hospital park and ride vans, which isn't the best thing for someone dealing with chronic pain.
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Taitale posted:I wanted to go to that but I was disgustingly tired last night. I spent close to an hour and a half standing around waiting for the hospital park and ride vans, which isn't the best thing for someone dealing with chronic pain. The place was packed (which was good obvs) so you may have struggled to find a seat if you'd gone. So you probably made the right call not going.
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WarpedNaba posted:Is there even anyone left on the Greens to vote for now I really like Eugenie Sage and Mojo is great. Too new to have had exposure to a lot of the rest but Golriz seems bonkers good.
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Mojo is a bit loony on some issues, like vaccination. Marama Davidson is awesome, Golriz Ghahraman is great, I like Gareth Hughes, and further down their list Jack McDonald is awesome, as is Leilani Tamu (not that she has a shot at parliament). Tbh I've gained a lot of respect for James Shaw too, he really pulled for Metiria through all this. Like beyond just backing her. I think their main issue going forward (either inside or outside of govt) is lack of experience.
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Aug 10, 2017 12:17
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Mojo Mathers unironically wants to end all animal testing (even for research) in New Zealand.
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Aug 10, 2017 15:40
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On the upside of banning testing on animals for human stuff is that it would create an incentive to test in other ways - like developing computer models or even organic models to test stuff on. We would lead the world. We could test more often with greater efficiency. It would be amazing. Silver linings and all that.
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Aug 10, 2017 23:56
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I don't trust a computer model to get me my no more tears shampoo.
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That's what human trials are for 
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klen dool posted:On the upside of banning testing on animals for human stuff is that it would create an incentive to test in other ways - like developing computer models or even organic models to test stuff on. We would lead the world. We could test more often with greater efficiency. It would be amazing. Silver linings and all that. That is a long winded way to say outsource to country with no human or animal rights laws.
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klen dool posted:On the upside of banning testing on animals for human stuff is that it would create an incentive to test in other ways - like developing computer models or even organic models to test stuff on. We would lead the world. We could test more often with greater efficiency. It would be amazing. Silver linings and all that. This already exists but is not and will not be a substitute for animal testing. Banning animal testing is so incredibly dumb it's hard to even grasp all the ways it would gently caress up just our agricultural industry for starters.
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Aug 11, 2017 02:19
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Oh, won't somebody please think of the agro industry??
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Ok. That guy.
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Aug 11, 2017 04:31
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Don't sign your posts
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Aug 11, 2017 04:37
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I would think the industry the grows our food would be popular with goons.
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It would literally decimate scientific research in New Zealand (such as it is). Moreover, if you're against animal testing I hope you never take any medicines ever
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Of course I don't because vaccines and medicines are just a form of government control 
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:Of course I don't because vaccines and medicines are just a form of government control Man, why does Hamilton exist again
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