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The Belgian posted:The New Oxford Annotated Bible is very nice because of the excellent annotation. If you're reading for literary value you should ofc read it in the original Greek / whatever language the book you want to read was originally written in. nahhhh KJV is better than the original literarily and also is by far the most influential to later English lit anyway so you shoukd read it.
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I'm basing that on what clever people sauy I don't actually read Hebrew or Aramaic i'm afraid.
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Aug 11, 2017 21:53
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Everyone knows the bible is best read in emoji
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🍞=💪 🍷=💉
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Aug 11, 2017 22:00
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Everyone knows the bible is best read in emoji don't encourage them you fool 
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Aug 11, 2017 22:12
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If you think about it Egyptians used the first emojis
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Aug 11, 2017 22:14
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alright, i say we move this conversation onto serious writing and literature. lets talk about mangas
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Aug 12, 2017 00:21
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derp posted:alright, i say we move this conversation onto serious writing and literature. lets talk about mangas I don't know about man-gas, but how about serious writing and literature about womangas.
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Sir John Feelgood posted:I started the Bible. English Standard Version. Almost finished with Deuteronomy. It is alternately powerful and tedious, fascinating and boring. I guess everybody knows that about the Bible, though. 'has anyone here read [the single most important book in human history]?' The Belgian posted:The New Oxford Annotated Bible is very nice because of the excellent annotation. this depends on why you're reading it. to really grasp the historical and cultural conditions that produced its various books? to more firmly distinguish history from accretionary myth in the text? to understand the various religious strands at work? then you need the annotation. if you want to appreciate it as literature, and to better understand its influence on the last 4 centuries of literature, then read the KJV chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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Aug 12, 2017 01:14
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It's more important to read KJV for its literary importance, since any direct allusion uses the KJV language, but if a person is trying to enjoy the stories as stories and break down the themes and ideas on their own, ESV is still good, since the concentration is in presenting the story as it should be told, but with a modern-ish audience as a target. So KJV is preferred, but ESV is still good, arguably better for certain sections like the long tangents of who begat who in Exodus. My ESV copy has really good takes on the poetic areas, but KJV is more important, since that's what's been read for hundreds of years now.
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Aug 12, 2017 01:33
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tetrapyloctomy posted:I don't know about man-gas, but how about serious writing and literature about womangas. 
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Aug 12, 2017 01:38
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James Joyce Did Nothing Wrong
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chernobyl kinsman posted:this depends on why you're reading it. to really grasp the historical and cultural conditions that produced its various books? to more firmly distinguish history from accretionary myth in the text? to understand the various religious strands at work? then you need the annotation. if you want to appreciate it as literature, and to better understand its influence on the last 4 centuries of literature, then read the KJV There is also things like how Genesis consits of three texts that a later editor cut and pasted together. Which is why god creates man on the sixth day and then creates him again after the seventh day. There's a bunch of structural stuff around how the texts are combined that you're liable to miss without annotation. I'd consider these things to be of literary importance. Some of the stories also just straight up don't make sense if you're unaware of the cultural background. The first thing that comes to mind is how people believed that what your parents looked at while you were concieved would affect your characteristics. Which you need to know for some story about cows with certain patterns on their hides to make sense. EDIT: Ofc if you're reading for influence on modern literature, you should read the Luther bible, not the king James.
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Aug 12, 2017 01:54
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The Belgian posted:EDIT: Ofc if you're reading for influence on modern literature, you should read the Luther bible, not the king James. the rollest of rolleyes
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I'll just say it plainly. I was turned off the KJV because in the course of researching translations something that should have been obvious was pointed out to me: Biblical scholarship has made a lot of progress since the seventeenth century. I wanted a translation that was beautiful, faithful to the style of the original, and informed by modern scholarship, and I think I made a good choice with the ESV. As I said before, it is a translation in the tradition of the KJV, so if you compare the two, they're remarkably similar, and I've enjoyed the ESV so far on an aesthetic level. If you're min-maxing for literary beauty, you might go with the KJV, and if you're min-maxing for accuracy you might go with Robert Alter. But I was looking for a compromise between a few virtues, and the ESV provided that.
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Aug 12, 2017 02:12
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Vulgate or bust
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Aug 12, 2017 02:17
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The KJB is arguably more important as a historical document than the bible itself
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The KJB is arguably more important as a historical document than the bible itself Not nearly as important as the vulgate, if we're taking that approach
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Aug 12, 2017 02:30
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The most important thing is that you immediately turn to the title page for the new testament and write "the legend of curly's gold" under the title
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Aug 12, 2017 02:44
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Franchescanado posted:This Gravity's Rainbow sucks, it's just about bananas and pancakes! you should be sold on pynchon's entire ouevre just from the banana scene
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Aug 12, 2017 03:38
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derp posted:alright, i say we move this conversation onto serious writing and literature. lets talk about mangas 
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Aug 12, 2017 05:39
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The KJB is arguably more important as a historical document than the bible itself that's an insanely stupid thing to say
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Aug 12, 2017 11:14
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It's greater than the original bible because it contains that bible w/in it.
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Aug 12, 2017 11:28
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light in august is like the bible but more cleverer. and with More loving.
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Aug 12, 2017 11:38
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CestMoi posted:I'm basing that on what clever people sauy I don't actually read Hebrew or Aramaic i'm afraid. you should learn coptic like my good friend david tibet
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Aug 12, 2017 14:48
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I'll get on it once I'm done learning Habla Congo
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Aug 12, 2017 16:47
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lol if im reading a book with thous and doests in it
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Aug 12, 2017 19:01
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Burning Rain posted:lol if im reading a book with thous and doests in it Not a hemmmmmingway fan i take it
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Aug 12, 2017 20:45
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derp posted:Not a hemmmmmingway fan i take it oh shut up
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Aug 12, 2017 21:25
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Read aquarium derp
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Aug 12, 2017 21:28
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im too busy reading the first letter of beloved classics then throwing them in the trash cause i dont like the font
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Aug 12, 2017 21:35
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derp I think we'd all appreciate it if you were to stop posting
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chernobyl kinsman posted:derp I think we'd all appreciate it if you were to stop posting
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Aug 12, 2017 23:42
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Quit being a loving child and read some real shitposting
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Aug 13, 2017 00:54
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I don't remember which fucker said that we shitpost here because you were getting your feelings hurt but it ruined a fantastic chance of getting rid of you.
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Aug 13, 2017 01:20
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I think Derp has the right to bad opinions but he can't complain when people bully him about them 'cause he does stuff like give up on Ulysses after two pages.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:00
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Mr. Squishy posted:I don't remember which fucker said that we shitpost here because you were getting your feelings hurt but it ruined a fantastic chance of getting rid of you. my bad
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Aug 13, 2017 04:01
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Anybody got any recommendations for something in the same vein as The Street of Crocodiles, besides Kafka?
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derp is alright with me
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