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Reuben Sandwich posted:While they're going into the hatch of a Kaiten? Worse. They get to be a Betty pilot! I went and done sims LP.
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11 Bomb hits of 250Kg apiece is not going to be enough to sink an Essex Class carrier. It's definitely going to be enough to brutally damage her though, probably docksiding her for upwards of a year. In a sense, it's a tactical victory but in terms of total CV count on the Paciic, the Allies hold the upper hand, counting all not-reefed US and UK carriers.
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Grey has one moderately (I think) damaged Light Carrier that seems to not have massive fires and systems damage and unless it takes more damage probably can get back to harbor. Essex has still taken nearly a dozen bombs ad is going to be moving pretty slowly, doesn't seem to have a ridiculously huge escort with it, and doesn't have a ton of air cover from nearby fields so can be stalked a bit over the next day or two and should still be in range.
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Flavius Belisarius posted:Decisive Campaigns looks great. Which one would you recommend to start with? Barbarossa is the newest and most interesting of them, but if you plan on doing goon multiplayer, WtP is the better option. It's the only one I own and I've gotten a good amount of enjoyment out of it, but it's also the oldest and it shows. If you want more tactical-level stuff, I'd also recommend taking a look at Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm. But maybe save that for after you've gotten used to playing grognard games first 
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dublish posted:And despite it only meeting half your criteria, I'll suggest Rule the Waves. I totally fails your UI and graphics criteria, but it's one of the best grog games you can get for less than $50. I cannot recommend this game highly enough for anyone with an interest in ship design. Enjoy seeing all those Italian ships run over mines? Try it yourself!
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quote:Rule the Waves OpenlyEvilJello posted:Enjoy seeing 
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Aug 10, 2017 18:40
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Ultimate General: Civil War is so much of an improvement that it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as its predecessor, Ultimate General: Gettysburg. Wait poo poo
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Referring to my historical sinkings reports, where the Italians are the plucky comic relief of the war.
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   A couple of our patrol boats decide to charge a couple of battleships. The Emperor will hear of their bravery, high command sighs at their stupidity.  The US 43rd Division is putting up a strong if futile fight.   We lose a Zero to Liberator fire. Just who are they here to Liberate anyway?   Time to move the Kido Butai to the east a bit to see if we can find that wounded carrier.  There was bugger all these guys could do against 15” and 16” guns.
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Aug 11, 2017 04:27
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What on Earth are all those Allied ships doing near Ambon, and why isn't land based air sinking them?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Hitting a PB with a 16" gun is not easy. Might have landed nearby and the boat capsized from the splash.
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Aug 11, 2017 05:05
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How are patrol boats worth 10 points each anyhow? That seems like an awful lot if patrol boats are what I think they are.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:How are patrol boats worth 10 points each anyhow? That seems like an awful lot if patrol boats are what I think they are. Keiko Maru was a converted cargo ship of approximately 3000 tons. Busho Maru was similarly a converted cargo ship of about 2500 tons. They're really more like Armed Merchant Cruisers than patrol boats, but their purpose was to act as auxiliary gunboats for landing operations and not as commerce raiders. Either way, they're significantly larger than what would normally be considered a patrol boat, which is why they're worth more. I'm not sure if the game allows them to carry cargo as well.
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Warspite is the first time we've seen the Royal Navy in awhile, right? And for the thread's resident Pacific War historians, since it's the theater I know least about : how common was it for ships from other Allied nations to join US-led task groups? I know during the ABDA days in the early war it was common for the British/Dutch/Australians to cluster together because that's all that was in theater really, but would a RN battleship or carrier have joined in a predominantly US force like that later in the war? Or were the Commonwealth forces/the Dutch a bit more independent in their commands?
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The Warspite! Great to see the Grand Old Lady herself make an appearance. For a quick history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07WXmSpUzns
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Wait, what's it doing in the Pacific? I thought it was always in Euro and the Med.
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Comstar posted:Wait, what's it doing in the Pacific? I thought it was always in Euro and the Med. It starts the game undergoing a refit/resupply in Seattle, but iirc it is supposed to be withdrawn in 1942...
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Aug 11, 2017 09:21
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It looks like they are so desperate for battleships that they are not withdrawing them!
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Drone posted:And for the thread's resident Pacific War historians, since it's the theater I know least about : how common was it for ships from other Allied nations to join US-led task groups? I know during the ABDA days in the early war it was common for the British/Dutch/Australians to cluster together because that's all that was in theater really, but would a RN battleship or carrier have joined in a predominantly US force like that later in the war? Or were the Commonwealth forces/the Dutch a bit more independent in their commands? Not very common past the desperation stage of 1942. In general, RN fleet units were based out of the Indian Ocean and so had a more difficult junction with the USN. The Dutch fleet was pretty well gutted by the early battles around Indonesia (esp. Java Sea). Australian cruisers commonly served alongside USN units during the Solomons campaign (hence why the USN named a cruiser Canberra). For a bit of contrast, though, check out the career of HMS Victorious (R38), a British carrier that served with the US Pacific Fleet for a period in 1943 when the USN was desperately short of carriers.
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Saint Celestine posted:Shouldn't you have a lot more land based air? Yep! My Betties never want to replenish.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Hitting a PB with a 16" gun is not easy. Might have landed nearby and the boat capsized from the splash. Daytime at 10 miles, slow PBs, presumably radar fire control is fully online by this point. They might have needed a few ranging shots to adjust for wind.
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You hear very little of the Royal Navy's role in the Pacific, partly because they were on the defensive for so long and the dominant narrative is the US vs Japan. When it did come time to go on the offense in '44-45 the US did tend to relegate the smaller, shittier tasks to their allies (e.g. the Australians on clean up detail in New Guinea). Yes the RN was at Okinawa and would have been there for Operation Downfall, but they were pretty clearly second fiddle. Hell, Halsey wrote: 'Turkey Trots' Halsey posted:it was imperative that we forestall a possible post-war claim by Britain that she had delivered even a part of the final blow that demolished the Japanese fleet Grumio fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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Grey Hunter posted:Yep! My Betties never want to replenish. Make sure you have a level 7 airfield within range with 20,000 supplies and they should replenish just fine.
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Grey Hunter posted:Yep! My Betties never want to replenish. Replenish airframes or torpedoes? Remember you have to have a naval air HQ in the same airfield and manually order more aerial torpedoes
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Aug 11, 2017 21:13
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Grumio posted:Replenish airframes or torpedoes? Remember you have to have a naval air HQ in the same airfield and manually order more aerial torpedoes As long as they're in the command radius of the Air HQ that has torpedoes they can use them.
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goatface posted:Daytime at 10 miles, slow PBs, presumably radar fire control is fully online by this point. They might have needed a few ranging shots to adjust for wind. I'd be surprised if a fair number of those hits aren't from 5"
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   Its mainly waves of Liberators flying around today.  We bring down a couple of hurricanes.  Are these from the carrier or just landed when her deck was ruined a few days ago.  That's not a carrier, but its some kills.  Dammit!   We send another force into retreat.  We gunned down a good number of their planes.  Two more confirmed kills.
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Where'd that damned carrier go? We've got an Essex and a couple of BBs in the theatre and they seem to be hiding from the Kido Butai. Very frustrating.
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Drone posted:Warspite is the first time we've seen the Royal Navy in awhile, right? Not a carrier, though she was a cruiser... HMAS Canberra supported the landings at Guadalcanal then went down fighting alongside the yanks at Savo. They did name one of their ships after her which was pretty decent. Spacman fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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Huh? We're putting some resistance up in the air over Burma? That's good to see after what felt like an eternity of just sitting there getting bombed.
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The Essex may have made port at Efate to try and pump out some of the water coming in the various holes those Vals punched in it so it can limp to a proper drydock. Once disbanded in a port base, they are no longer valid targets for Naval Attack missions. Therefore, you might do well to assign some of the KB's strike groups to a Port Attack primary mission targeting Efate. Note that when assigned Port Attack as a secondary mission, they'll only strike a port in range if they find no targets at sea, and as we've seen, the Allies have an endless supply of cargo ships to distract your pixel-pilots. Just remember to flip them back to the Naval Attack primary mission afterwards 
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  A night attack? That's a change in tactics.  It's apparently the day to blow up our planes on the runway.   We bring down a couple of more Ventura's.  Once more we hammer into the US forces at Rabaul.  One of their larger forces attacks us, but we hold them off.  I think the Essex has escaped. Or gone down. It's more likely the former though, the damage is to low to be overly hopeful.
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Because he's shipping it all to Noumea.
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Well that's gonna suck mightily when the BBs and the Kido Butai come back for replenishment. Unless the Japanese troops are in negative supply because somehow the Allies sneak stole the base and Grey is attacking to take it back before the fleets come home. How did those Allied troops get there in the first place?
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  Our planes are taking more damage at the moment.  We seem to go though phases.  Yep, this is a “lose lots of planes on the ground” phase.  Another round of fighting – these guys are holding out well.  The Kido Butai is heading back to Rabaul. Time to reload and go hunting again.
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Grey Hunter posted:
That -supply modifier is killing your adjusted AV. Stand down your troops until you can ship in more supplies to Rabaul, wait a turn, then attack again. Once you have supplies in the hex, you can also use a battleship group to bombard every day, which will help soften up their troops considerably.
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quote:The Kido Butai is heading back to Rabaul. Time to reload and go hunting again. When your troops have a -supply modifier, there's also probably not enough supply in hex to replenish your ships or their air groups. Hopefully there are some cargo ships on the way!
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Are you supposed to be getting so many planes destroyed on the ground? I feel like you may be doing something wrong....
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